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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: "To Quote Alan Moore, YOU'RE LOCKED UP IN HERE WITH ME"
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It's really upsetting, and it shows that a lot of people haven't learned anything from the last two or three years. There are a LOT of people on the left that are yearning for a Trump-like messiah but for their side, and the warning has been given time and time again not to look for that one person that's going to change everything. That's not how it works, and no matter how much you disagree with the system or want to point out its flaws, it's not just going to change like *that*. It's a slow, arduous process, it's not fun and meme-filled and instantaneous, and a lot of people are going to be sorely disappointed when it doesn't work out how they want. Again.
I dont know where all of this is headed. Change is definitely needed but AOC holds little power as a freshman. Unless her message resonates beyond her district shell be easily ignored by the establishment.
She's awesome, I love that she's a fighter and she doesn't let the right (and the centrist Dems!) just get away with their bullshit. I can't wait to see how her political career develops.
She is like a fresh glass of water in hell, let people feel hopeful a bit in this mess of a political landscape JFC
It will be interesting to see her approval ratings in her district. She is the darling of the left right now but none of that matters, the only thing that matters are the constituents in her district.
No doubt her message has. She needs to walk the walk, legislatively, of course. But her radicalism has definitely struck a chord with many disenchanted people on the left that goes well beyond her constituents in the Bronx/Queens.
Counterpoint:
I agree with you on principle and on what I assumed was the inevitable failure of her approach and her being one slip away from catastrophe, especially with pigs going full court press and her total lack of experience and unshaken skeleton closet. I was full-on eye rolling about her entire deal, because I wrongly assumed she was pulling from a shallow playbook.
But the longer she keeps it up, the more she owns the situation, the more flex she creates for her communication and the bigger the safety net she knits beneath herself - and the initial Republican attack has been a giant self-own that buys her even more latitiude.
She's also proven that on social media, she's not a flash in the pan and her instinct and output seem very stable and extensible. And the longer she keeps it up, the less likely a skeleton is and the more meaningful experience and wins she'll put under her belt. And the more I learn about her the more confident I am that she can be an effective politician and bureaucrat.
Now I probably just jinxed it for her, but that is profoundly where she's at today.
And yet you used "would of". AOC would never use "would of".
When they go low, leave a tire tread on their burst stomach.
She's in a unique situation but that doesn't mean she's "unlike us". we're all voting for something, looking to change the status quo. We humans also quote popular fiction from time to time.
No. People need to learn how this actually works. So we don't keep repeating the same mistakes.
The media and the right helped launch her into the stratosphere and want to turn her into a punching bag, the latest liberal boogeywoman that they can demonize and tear down as a symbol of all Democrats. The least we can do is offer support.
People keep saying this like we didn't just put a reality TV show host with zero governing experience and a third grade reading level in the oval office.
*Waits patiently for Trump/AOC comparisons
It's one line and appropriating it doesn't indicate embrace of or allusions to the entirety of the character with whom it is associated. Let's not "well ACTUALLY" her on this.
Already on the first page I'm afraid.
Already on the first page I'm afraid.
I like AOC as much as the next brown millennial, but I'm not a fan of that mindset at all. Set expectations accordingly
You were under the impression that I was saying AOC was going to single handedly change the whole system? I know how the US works, she is a female congresswoman, at most she can be vocal and inspire people to get behind issues.
Plus she is woman of color, I know full well the US wouldn't embrace her a savior of anything.
Do you realize that you have beaten down to the point where someone saying "she brings a bit of hope" is deemed unrealistic and unreasonable?
One of the reasons that people are elected to US House office is to find out just exactly what is going on in Washington DC at the congressional level. Not because they necessarily have legislative experience.
There are those out there complaining that she should "learn the job first" or "has no history" or what have you. To meet what end?
The problem there is that once the person is in office for a while, people will lazily go and say "she's become part of the establishment" or "she's succumbed to Washington" or what have you. Nowhere in those stances do people actually look at what's going on in Washington, or look at the concerns of the constituents.
All she's done is voiced the concerns of the constituents (which IS part of her job as a Representative), and in some cases single-handedly defended herself from saying that lobbyists run the orientation meetings, or dancing in college, or having fake nudes posted, or people telling others she misunderstands the tax code. Mostly without any party-level help.
So far she's gotten approvals from Pelosi and Paul Krugman, among others. Everything looks like a cult of personality if you remove the causes behind the organization. So far I see no evidence of her issues raised as merely "a bunch of stuff".
The comparisons to trump are hilariously dumb
Renders for me on iOS — you saying regular members can't?
I've honestly not take the time to see how on a normal browser. I've done it on my phone.
Is there a quick way to do them on the PC browser???
Same people telling you to stop admiring AOC will tell also you you're not allowed to feel despair.
There is no pleasing them, so they can all just shut the fuck up, honestly.
uh oh
You can either copy and paste the emoji which is what I do, or if you're on W10, Windows Key + ;
Well, she's most certainly Fox News new darling. At least there are more articles about her than Trump (let alone any other politician).
Dude ...
That's not even remotely
You know goddamn well how much you had to twist what was actually said.
You know... I'd almost forgotten what an apologetically proud liberal looked like. As much as I like Michelle Obama, her "they go low, we go high" speech, however optimistic, made me feel like the whole party was too "above" being seen as aggressive, confrontational, or angry.
Obviously, never stoop to their level, but it's great to see some "fire" return to the party. They seem hungry for change, and that's a great thing.
Obviously, never stoop to their level, but it's great to see some "fire" return to the party. They seem hungry for change, and that's a great thing.
I ain't twist shit. That's what is going on. The same way Colin Kaepernick was "not good enough" to be controversial, Cortez is "not experienced enough" to be outspoken.
It's bullshit and I'm not having it.
Well thanks for putting that in my already disordered permanent-Baby-Shark playing hollow excuse for a brain.
If you re-read my posts, you'll notice I was never critical of Ocasio-Cortez specifically. I'm just cautioning people and asking that they temper expectations. That's all. I have no problem with what she's saying, or how she's doing it.
Democratic politicians quoting a (fictional) deranged, bigoted killer with extremist views aligned with incels and the far right, because retweets and likes mean future votes?
I mean, we are in Trump's America now.
Edit: didn't Ted Cruz say Rorschach was one of his favorite superheroes? Maybe they have something to find common ground over now.
I mean, we are in Trump's America now.
Edit: didn't Ted Cruz say Rorschach was one of his favorite superheroes? Maybe they have something to find common ground over now.