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Alfonso Ribeiro is the latest celeb who's got beef with Fortnite's pop culture-influenced dances -- and now he's suing the creators of the game for jacking his own.

The former 'Fresh Prince' star just filed suit against Epic Games -- which developed the crazy popular multi-player game -- claiming the company completely ripped off the famous dance his character, Carlton Banks, did on the show throughout the series.
In the docs, obtained by TMZ, Alfonso says that Fortnite released a new dance that its characters can perform called the "Fresh emote," which came out on Jan 2, 2018 ... and it's a carbon copy of what he claims he came up with on the '90s sitcom.

He also claims he's in the middle of copyrighting the Carlton dance.

The lawsuit is almost identical to the one filed by 2 Milly earlier this month for jacking his "Milly Rock" dance. Alfonso's attorney, David Hecht of Pierce Bainbridge Beck Price & Hecht LLP, tells us, "It is widely recognized that Mr. Ribeiro's likeness and intellectual property have been misappropriated by Epic Games in the most popular video game currently in the world, Fortnite."


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Anyone wanting to know from an actual copyright attorney if you can copyright dances? Here you go.

 
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Musubi

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Wait he owns that dance? I thought that was just a dance his character on the show did?
 

TheBaldwin

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Good. I get copyright stuff can go too far, but fortnite giving 0 credit or any money compensation was kind of dumb

Off though since i would have assumed the netword would try and copyright the dance, and not alfonso himself
 

hydruxo

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I wonder if he knows the Carlton dance has been in Destiny 1 for like 4 years lmao
 

kennyamr

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"The Carlton" is so special though. It's clearly Mr. Ribiero who created and popularized the dance. It's really iconic.
I still remember watching the show and having a blast. That dance was so fun, lol.

I don't know, man. I think he deserves full credit and compensation. This is clearly his stuff being used to make money.
My opinion is that it's completely unfair to be using the dance that someone clearly created and made popular on national TV, and use it commercially without paying anything.
 
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Nooblet

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Iiirc Destiny 1 did it first and you had to pay for it directly. But obviously it was never as popular as fortnite.

And honestly, unlike the other dance moves like Donald Faison's dance from Scrubs, The Carlton is actually an iconic dance and it can fully be credited to Alfonso Ribero and no one else for making it popular and iconic.
 

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I love him as an actor, I don't think he'll win just like everyone else who I also think wouldn't win since they didn't already have it copyrighted before all of this but if anyone was gonna have a chance it's him, that dance is clearly iconic because of him.
 

Calamari41

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I don't know if you can own a dance in this manner, but if you can, then this one definitely belongs to Alfonso.
 

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Iiirc Destiny 1 did it first and you had to pay for it directly. But obviously it was never as popular as fortnite.

And honestly, unlike the other dance moves like Donald Faison's dance from Scrubs, The Carlton is actually an iconic dance and it can fully be credited to Alfonso Ribero and no one else for making it popular and iconic.

I bought that one and was SUPER disappointed when I found out it wouldn't transfer to Destiny 2.
 

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I still don't think that the copyright claim holds any water...buuuutttt, I do believe that Epic/Bungie/All companies really need to at least credit who create or at the very least popularized the dance moves.

My old boss is probably having a filed day with this, haha.
 

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Wait. So the dance wasn't already copyrighted? Seems like the Carlton actor is fucked then. He's just trying to jump on the bandwagon now. Should've copyrighted the dance move decades ago when you did it.
 

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He's in the middle of copyrighting the dance now?

Surely that couldn't apply retroactively. It seems you would have as much grounds to sue Epic Games as you would to the games that have used it previously, which I imagine would be none.
 

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I still don't think that the copyright claim holds any water...buuuutttt, I do believe that Epic/Bungie/All companies really need to at least credit who create or at the very least popularized the dance moves.

My old boss is probably having a filed day with this, haha.

There's a video at the top of the post that explains that you can copyright these things. The question is whether or not it's infringement.
 

Ragnorok64

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Am I having a memory malfunction or is the tone in this thread different then when 2 Milly sued Fortnite?
 

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Hmmm... that's more than a move. Up to the courts whether it qualifies as a dance though.
Edit: Wait. What is the Carlton dance? Is it both of those moves in the Fortnite vid or only a single one? The video in OP doesn't show the second part as far as a I can see.
 

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Anyone wanting to know from an actual copyright attorney if you can copyright dances? Here you go.


So what's interesting about this is that it's still just his opinion and why he personally thinks you can copy right a dance move. There's no real case for these video game dances yet. It'll be a case by case bases. That said, I think any game dev implementing dance moves into their games should get permission.