- Oct 26, 2017
I’m off for a second watch tomorrow afternoon, 3D this time. Just a shame my nearest imax is so far away.
For me, it ended at the point where I was definitely wanting more. "Yoooo let's fucking goooo," is where my head space was at, only to then get the title card & credits.
I think there’s two answers to that. I can say, as objectively as it’s possible for me to be, that I can understand people new to this world may leave it wanting more (or feeling like it ended prematurely, even - despite a fairly packed two hour run time) and that there’s absolutely the impression that a new chapter in the story is about to start as the credits roll. Conversely, as a big fan of the manga, I knew going into it roughly how much material this two hour film would cover, I knew there were a few important things that need to be mentioned at this point in the story but which won’t be relevant until way down the line, and obviously knowing what happens after the credits roll helps.
This was one of my big hopes for the film the moment it looked like it was actually going to get made - the original author’s art managed to capture the motion of Alita’s fighting style really well in static 2D images, and I hoped so much that they’d be able to capture that in motion. They absolutely nailed it.The movie obviously looks insanely good as a whole but the action scenes were also well directed and super easy to follow despite some of them having like a dozen weird cyborgs going at each other at 100 miles per hour... I could make out what was happening every second.
They cast a serious villain and the budget is low. If this does well ww we could easily see a sequel.I enjoyed the first two acts every much. And then.., the third acts starts. What the film ended on was a third act that was baffling, frustrating and at one point laugh out loud funny.
I was really into the film but, sadly, it totally blew the ending and by the time the song was playing at the end the whole thing felt like a missed opportunity.
Yet another Hollywood film that leaves it's story unfinished in the hope that it could be completed in sequels that they are almost certainly never going to make.
No. Anyone that says that isn’t being honest that they just wanted more and didn’t get it. Even if you gave* the movie an extra hour it couldn’t wrap up the cliffhanger. The movie establishes alita and the world. It’s a great ride but isn’t all contained. Story threads are resolved and over arching threads are left open. Even if there is a sequel idk if it would all be wrapped up in reference to what people are complaining about.
I’d argue that feeling is the mark of a good franchise opener. That doesn’t sound like a cliffhanger though
Is it Avatar-style depth 3D or stuff-coming-at-you 3D?
The budget is "low"?
I haven't seen it yet but I assume like most 3D films, it's like 98% depth. Stuff coming out at you is a rare effect/gimmick just due to it being harder to focus your eyes on and not being a common directorial decision in films, unless they specifically are trying to show off a 3D effect. That being said, judging by the trailer, I could tell that there are at least some action scenes that seem to have stuff coming at you, but again, the main effect of 3D will always be the depth. It's just that with a film shot in 3D compared to a conversion, the depth will appear more convincing for live action.
He was quoted in an interview saying it was 150 million. Better than the 200 million that keeps getting quoted at least :)
it’s low compared to what Cameron wanted to do. I heard the budget was 140k. I think this could really blow up overseas.
Rodriguez also said he didn’t add to the script. All he did was edit existing scenes down and combine characters. He said the original script was 160 pages with 600 pages of notes and he edited it down to 120 pages. He sent it off the Cameron for approval and Cameron got really dismayed and said this will probably suck but was surprised with how much he liked the shortened script. RR said he didn’t remove any major story beat from the Cameron script.
Nah the original script was 180+ pages. And he obviously cut out quite a bit.Rodriguez also said he didn’t add to the script. All he did was edit existing scenes down and combine characters. He said the original script was 160 pages with 600 pages of notes and he edited it down to 120 pages. He sent it off the Cameron for approval and Cameron got really dismayed and said this will probably suck but was surprised with how much he liked the shortened script. RR said he didn’t remove any major story beat from the Cameron script.
RR also said he wants to make a sequel if the studio will let him.(kindof obvious but to me that’s good news bc I loved it)
That colour being red or green could have some impact on its domestic box office performance (not so relevant overseas), because a film like this without a built in fanbase needs any help it can get, also sometimes RT score is associated with films on ticket booking platforms/apps.
That's fair, but i'm not fully convinced that the color alone has that much sway over people, when the meter is only 1-2% from crossing over.It's all about keeping the score in fresh status since that can affect it's box office numbers. The 1 or 2 percent can be that difference. I do not think it will do great in the US but every little bit helps. Fresh status plus good word of mouth could give it some legs.
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi_uPzYg6_gAhUCfSsKHSHUB-IQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https://www.businessinsider.com/robert-rodriguez-and-jon-landau-on-the-making-of-alita-battle-angel-2018-4&psig=AOvVaw2V8z2sYNNOLfhRm3dGlyg0&ust=1549814671518275Landau: And Robert did that on his own. He didn't say, "Put a deal in place for me to be the director." He just went and did it. And that speaks volumes. And we read what he did with Jim's 180-page script, and nothing was missing. And that told us that he understood what was important thematically. A lot of people talk about plot, Robert held onto the themes that were so important.
Rodriguez: In fact, Jim told me he would play a game with himself while reading the script. He would be coming up on a part of the movie that he liked and would say to himself, I bet that's cut out, and he would love that it wasn't cut. The stuff that I thought he would miss the most, I made sure to keep in there.
Not an argument at all. But he’s saying Cameron’s script was 160 pages, when it was 180 pages. Basically, the movie changed a lot during RR’s edit. You don’t lose an hour out of a movie without losing a lot.
Well, he's saying Rodriguez said that, so it's kind of a he-said/he-said thing.
That’s not the panel I was at. I reconfirmed with my fiancé we both heard 160 so maybe he mis spoke?https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi_uPzYg6_gAhUCfSsKHSHUB-IQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https://www.businessinsider.com/robert-rodriguez-and-jon-landau-on-the-making-of-alita-battle-angel-2018-4&psig=AOvVaw2V8z2sYNNOLfhRm3dGlyg0&ust=1549814671518275
He said a lot of what he cut out was action and fighting. For example he said the bar fight alone was 12 pages of script. He also said Cameron told him every single one of his favorite scenes are still in the movie an it’s just a tighter experience. Idk I mean RR could just be hyping it up but do you really think Cameron would attach his name to a script he wasn’t happy with?