All Elite Wrestling announced; bankrolled by Tony Khan, son of Jacksonville Jaguars and Fullham FC owner Shahid Khan

RS1984

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Dec 29, 2017
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You guys got me nervous about dropping $50 on BR Live. How is the BR Live app on an Amazon Fire TV stick?
 

Sinatar

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Oct 25, 2017
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$50 is way too much, I want these guys to succeed but if that's the direction they're going in they are in for some rough times.
 

Bronx-Man

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Oct 25, 2017
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There's no way

I'm up for a year-long ban bet or a namechange-bet.
OK - what's the bet then?
Ban bet seems fine. I don’t see what the big deal is, it’s not like I’m saying they’ll pull a million.

But a cable channel in nearly as many homes as USA, more hype than Impact ever had, already more support from their channel than Impact ever had, 5 months of advertising and PPVs to go, I’d be shocked if they got lower than 775K.
 

Buckle

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Sephzilla

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Oct 25, 2017
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Assuming we're looking at week 1 AEW ratings, getting over 800k viewers seems like a slam dunk especially considering TNA managed to get 600k on a backwater TV station.
 

Sweeney Swift

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dave says 400-500k is considered a success? On TNT? Wrestling on TNT for the first time in decades?

Shit. Minimum 600k average regularly. TNA managed that on POP when nobody outside of here ever even heard of the station being called that before
 

Brass Body Dave

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Brass Body Dave

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I'm not getting into this madness but let me be the third party who hashes out the fine print.

Are you folks discussing AEW ratings for week 1 or average over a sustained amount of time?
First week I bet is under 775k viewers via Nielsen. Not youtube views, etc. Just gotta make sure we hash it out

Thanks OhSatan

We doin it Bronx! We'll check back in later this year once it airs! I'm excited!
 

Bronx-Man

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Oct 25, 2017
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If I win, AEW does well. If I lose, I don’t have to see any of PoliEra’s god-awful opinions for a year.

This is what we in Vegas call a win-win scenario.
 

Seraphis Cain

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Oct 25, 2017
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I want to support AEW/Double or Nothing, but $50? Yeah no thanks. For that price I could subscribe to NJPW, DDT, AJPW, Stardom, and Dragon Gate for a month. Like it or not, WWE changed the perceived value of wrestling with the Network. $50 PPVs don't fly anymore.
 

RS1984

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Dec 29, 2017
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One could wish $50 was just a mistake and $50 is actually a "Season Pass" like what BR Live does with other sports. One could wish. Then again they are charging $25 for a T-Shirt.
 

RBH

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Meltzer talks about the AEW TNT deal on the Observer Boards:


It's a complicated deal but it's easily the best deal anyone but WWE has ever gotten. There is a downside on the ad revenue which you can call the rights fee plus I never expected paying for production. That's got to be $20 million right there if it's a $400,000 budget. That's if, most arena shoots I've seen are higher budgeted and this may be as well. That's the number Vince is getting from his TV partners. WWE's production runs about $1 million per taping. I'm sure they won't get close to that. Even WWE doesn't get production paid for, not that they need to with the deasl they have.

I was expecting 20-30M in rights fees with it all going to barely cover production as a first year deal and early losses until they can build the rest of their business such as international and such. I don't see.house shows or PPVs being big moneymakers, haven't asked what the B/R deal is but the PPV business would be just a usual split. Video game to me is possible but iffy. The value of this appears at the high end of my expectations, depending on what we don't know, which is actual production budget and actual split on ads, what they can charge ads for. There's also international deals and such, although U.S. is obviously the key deal.

The idea this is a time buy, or they're not getting paid at all isn't the case.
 

LiquidSolid

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Oct 26, 2017
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If you can get AEW + HBO + Turner + Warner Bros/Turner movie catalog for ~$15/month (or less) that'd be incredible.
I have to imagine they'll wrap DC Universe in with it too, so they'll also have some pretty good original DC shows.

It seems like it'll be a really great streaming service, pity WB are fucking horrendous at expanding worldwide.

But again the pin is booked. Are we all supposed to go back to being dumb marks and pretending it's all real?

Uh yes? If you don't want to pretend it's real, you can always go watch WWE and get beaten to death with how fake everything is and how nothing matters.
 

thefro

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Nick Diener (former lead singer/guitarist of The Swellers) wrote/recorded a theme song for an AEW wrestler

 

Jerm411

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Oct 27, 2017
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One could wish $50 was just a mistake and $50 is actually a "Season Pass" like what BR Live does with other sports. One could wish. Then again they are charging $25 for a T-Shirt.
Now something like that where you get all 3 shows leading up to TV would be a lot palatable...I'd def. jump on that.
 

Shaneus

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Oct 27, 2017
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Holy shit, I just realised this means we might, nay, will get interviews with people like Cody and Kenny on Conan. Fingers crossed!