All Elite Wrestling announced; bankrolled by Tony Khan, son of Jacksonville Jaguars and Fullham FC owner Shahid Khan

Sweeney Swift

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I love Orange Cassidy even more now, and I already loved him a ton

I love AEW comedy even more now, and I already loved it a ton
 

Heromanz

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It's 2019, not 1989, there's hundreds of Orange Cassidy clips and even full matches out there that everyone can easily watch whenever they want. He's been popular for long enough at this point to know that he isn't just a one note joke or fad, he's a genuinely good comedic wrestler.

He obviously shouldn't be doing his thing every week but then no-one should because that's how you make them uninteresting, just look at how WWE runs almost everything they touch into the ground. That's not a reason why they shouldn't hire comedic wrestlers, it's a reason why they shouldn't have the same guys wrestling every week.

Having said all that, I won't disagree with you about AEW's comedic stuff so far but hopefully they'll eventually learn to leave the comedy to comedic wrestlers who're actually good at it.
Even though there is a lot footage online of him doesn't mean he very well known.To most wrestling fan they don't who he is. He has one good gimmick . That works if you don't see it all the time. If you it let say every week on tv it will die.

And to the comedy part. I don't really they need more comedy wrestlers , so far it hasn't been good and has panned by every one. It not what this promotion needs
 

WoahW

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Even though there is a lot footage online of him doesn't mean he very well known.To most wrestling fan they don't who he is. He has one good gimmick . That works if you don't see it all the time. If you it let say every week on tv it will die.

And to the comedy part. I don't really they need more comedy wrestlers , so far it hasn't been good and has panned by every one. It not what this promotion needs
Crazy to think you know how to run a promotion that has a major tv deal. Almost like maybe sit back and let them do their thing and if you don’t like it don’t watch it?
 

LiquidSolid

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Even though there is a lot footage online of him doesn't mean he very well known.To most wrestling fan they don't who he is. He has one good gimmick . That works if you don't see it all the time. If you it let say every week on tv it will die.

And to the comedy part. I don't really they need more comedy wrestlers , so far it hasn't been good and has panned by every one. It not what this promotion needs
Maybe he isn't well known amongst casual fans but he's been pretty popular with internet fans for a while now. I don't even know what you mean when you say he has one good gimmick, like any wrestler, he has a gimmick that he uses in a variety of different, creative ways in different matches. He isn't one note at all. And AGAIN, almost anything that's featured on TV every single week will die, so no shit that'd happen if OC was.

Don't need more comedy wrestlers? What good comedy wrestlers do they even have? Michael Nakazawa and Best Friends, I guess? There's the Librarians too but they're not good comedy. If a far more serious and sports focused promotion like NJPW can have guys like Yano, Taguchi, Colt Cabana, Best Friends, etc. on their shows at various different points then AEW will be perfectly fine with a few comedy wrestlers.
 

Heromanz

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Maybe he isn't well known amongst casual fans but he's been pretty popular with internet fans for a while now. I don't even know what you mean when you say he has one good gimmick, like any wrestler, he has a gimmick that he uses in a variety of different, creative ways in different matches. He isn't one note at all. And AGAIN, almost anything that's featured on TV every single week will die, so no shit that'd happen if OC was.

Don't need more comedy wrestlers? What good comedy wrestlers do they even have? Michael Nakazawa and Best Friends, I guess? There's the Librarians too but they're not good comedy. If a far more serious and sports focused promotion like NJPW can have guys like Yano, Taguchi, Colt Cabana, Best Friends, etc. on their shows at various different points then AEW will be perfectly fine with a few comedy wrestlers.
I've seen enough orange Cassidy to know that yeah he's pretty much one note. Me he has a cool gimmick and then when he has to work a match like a normal wrestler he just isn't good. He is very boring like that's that's the issue with him.
 

solidussnaku

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I've seen enough orange Cassidy to know that yeah he's pretty much one note. Me he has a cool gimmick and then when he has to work a match like a normal wrestler he just isn't good. He is very boring like that's that's the issue with him.

If he was soooooo boring, you sure as shit would not get this type of positive reaction from, yes, Twitter and the internet. We've had wrestleERA old hands come in and describe how good/big signing OC is. Hell, I've seen 3-4 YouTube matches of him after DoN and what he does, and how he does it, brings a smile each time. In said matches he has shown a surprising range if wrestling ability and showmanship.


We get it, you think he's shit. Still doesn't negate what a good/big singing this is for AEW. Whilst it remains to be seen if it will be overused, AEW will likely cycle talent for on and off periods to give the performers, and the gimmicks, a rest and opportunities to switch things up.

Its run by a guy who had a team in the English premier league. A league known to cycle dozens of players on a team week in and out. Wont be surprised to see the same setup be applied to AEW.
 

Proteus

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How long are they going to run with custom graphics for each show?

It's also interesting they are making announcements for these TV events a big deal. I like it.
 

WoahW

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What is this? This sound like one of those wwe fans right now
You literally make no sense in your response. How about instead of whining about something, give them a chance first, if it fails so be it but you whining and repeating that you don’t like him doesn’t change anything.

And you have no idea what AEW needs, you are just a fan sitting at home like the rest of us.
 
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I agree that the comedy stuff AEW is doing is bad and uninteresting, but OC is legit a great comedy wrestler and a good wrestler (see his work as Fire Ant in Chikara, he is great in tag / tiros action).

Besides, like many are saying, and act like OC is not going to be there every week.

Anyway, if AEW live audiences does not like OC, he is going to get the same heat the librarians are getting and that will probably be the end of the gimmick.
 

Nelo Ice

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Oct 27, 2017
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So glad Orange Cassidy has been signed. Ever since I first heard of him this year I've been fascinated and went down the rabbit hole of viewing his matches online. Def excited to see what they do with him in AEW.
 

iiicon

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Even though there is a lot footage online of him doesn't mean he very well known.To most wrestling fan they don't who he is. He has one good gimmick . That works if you don't see it all the time. If you it let say every week on tv it will die.

And to the comedy part. I don't really they need more comedy wrestlers , so far it hasn't been good and has panned by every one. It not what this promotion needs
This is a super weird complaint to have about a wrestler who is a regular fixture for multiple companies and has been put higher and higher on the card as those companies became more successful.
 

Heromanz

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Oct 25, 2017
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You literally make no sense in your response. How about instead of whining about something, give them a chance first, if it fails so be it but you whining and repeating that you don’t like him doesn’t change anything.

And you have no idea what AEW needs, you are just a fan sitting at home like the rest of us.
What?
This whole thread is about discussing a promotion and guess what we're doing discussing a promotion if this was New Japan I'll be saying the same thing
 

Mahonay

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I mean I've seen plenty of people dislike orange Cassidy as well so I really don't understand
Reaction on the internet for Cassidy is mostly positive. Definitely more positive than negative.

He’s not going to be for fans who don’t like comedy gimmicks. He was never going to be their thing and that’s fine. Nothing wrong with disliking his character, even if others like myself find it incredibly endearing.
 

Double 0

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I've seen enough orange Cassidy to know that yeah he's pretty much one note. Me he has a cool gimmick and then when he has to work a match like a normal wrestler he just isn't good. He is very boring like that's that's the issue with him.


I don't think a single indie promoter would agree on the idea that OC is either one note or not a good wrestler. He wouldn't regularly get booked despite having a comedy gimmick if he was either of those things.

Surely not anyone who has seen his best matches, which again, span a decade. Namely if you count Chikara's Fire Ant to that mix.
 

Mahonay

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I don't think a single indie promoter would agree on the idea that OC is either one note or not a good wrestler. He wouldn't regularly get booked despite having a comedy gimmick if he was either of those things.

Surely not anyone who has seen his best matches, which again, span a decade. Namely if you count Chikara's Fire Ant to that mix.
Lol the only time I’ve ever seen Cassidy live was as Fire Ant at a Chikara show.
 

WoahW

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What?
This whole thread is about discussing a promotion and guess what we're doing discussing a promotion if this was New Japan I'll be saying the same thing
You aren’t discussing, you are actively repeating the same thing over and over, also you aren’t watching anything to further your knowledge of him. You flatout said all he did was comedy which he doesn’t
 

LiquidSolid

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Oct 26, 2017
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I mean I've seen plenty of people dislike orange Cassidy as well so I really don't understand
What's to understand? You've given your opinion and I completely disagree. There's no point continuing because you're not going to change your mind and nothing you've said is going to make me change my mind (especially when you're seriously trying to claim Fandango is a better wrestler than Orange Cassidy).
 

Heromanz

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Oct 25, 2017
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You aren’t discussing, you are actively repeating the same thing over and over, also you aren’t watching anything to further your knowledge of him. You flatout said all he did was comedy which he doesn’t
What? No no no
I have been discussing him with numerous people on this thread. You are the person who hasn't really been discussing anything really. I mean this was your first post to me a response not like orange Cassidy

"Crazy to think you know how to run a promotion that has a major tv deal. Almost like maybe sit back and let them do their thing and if you don’t like it don’t watch it?"

That post right there comes straight out of a WWE fan playbook.
 

Sweeney Swift

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You aren’t discussing, you are actively repeating the same thing over and over, also you aren’t watching anything to further your knowledge of him. You flatout said all he did was comedy which he doesn’t
What's to understand? You've given your opinion and I completely disagree. There's no point continuing because you're not going to change your mind and nothing you've said is going to make me change my mind (especially when you're seriously trying to claim Fandango is a better wrestler than Orange Cassidy).
Thank you

Lol the only time I’ve ever seen Cassidy live was as Fire Ant at a Chikara show.
So this is how I find out Fire Ant's identity isn't A Real Ant 😭
 

Snake Eater

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think OC is a joke and someone flipping through the channels and lands on TNT and sees his lazy routine is probably going to be like “that’s why they say wrestling isn’t cool”

But with all that said, I’m not opposed to AEW signing this guy as it was pretty clear what this promotion was going to be about from the start
 

Buckle

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think OC is a joke and someone flipping through the channels and lands on TNT and sees his lazy routine is probably going to be like “that’s why they say wrestling isn’t cool”

But with all that said, I’m not opposed to AEW signing this guy as it was pretty clear what this promotion was going to be about from the start
Cool.

He's going to prove you wrong though.

 

greenbird

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Oct 25, 2017
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Orange Cassidy is a huge upgrade over the librarian stuff for comedy spots. Dude always gets his gimmick over, and I think it'll be the same in AEW. Still, it would be best if they play it smart and not overexpose him. That goes for a lot of people on the roster when it comes to weekly tv though.
 

solidussnaku

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Nov 29, 2017
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Pumped for both, hope they expand on the title match and the women's matchup though.

Those two would benefit the most from more build up episodes.
 

Rivenblade

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Pumped for both, hope they expand on the title match and the women's matchup though.

Those two would benefit the most from more build up episodes.
Same. Should be good. They also haven't pushed anything about Best Friends vs. Dark Order, which is listed on the wiki page for the event.

New match announcement in 15 minutes. :D
 

Henry Hank

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I kind of thought we’d get this match on the first TV show, but they’re pushing it off a couple weeks- guess it makes sense from an attraction standpoint, the first week sells itself.

I’m interested to see what approach they take. My expectation is that the winner of Omega/Moxley is the first #1 contender. Would they have Jericho drop the belt to either of them that quickly, or does the match end in some sort of shenanigans that sets up a chase that culminates at the year end PPV?