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All Elite Wrestling announced; bankrolled by Tony Khan, son of Jacksonville Jaguars and Fullham FC owner Shahid Khan

Mar 19, 2018
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Bro, WWE was always aimed at children. Yes, even during the Attitude Era.
Totally. That stuff was written to appeal to 12-14 year olds who want to watch shows that make them feel like big boys. I don't understand why people think adding more promos about 'puppies' and 'pie' would make the product better.

If by "edgier" you mean blood, boobs and chair shots to the head then no, thankfully. WWE was a good promotion in the late 90s in SPITE of that gross shit, not because of it.
I think they got a lot of people on board because of it. Late 90s-early 2000 was all about being edgy. WWE rode on the coattails of a culture that also made Limp Bizkit and COPS successful. Wrestling was so popular in that era that it was able to get by when the product sucked (people don't seem to remember a lot of the garbage from the attitude era). It's not like now where the ratings really take a hit when things aren't humming.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Jeff Gerstmann opened up the news section of this week's Giant Bombcast by talking about All Elite Wrestling, and it's pretty cool to see how excited he is for it.

It's also pretty telling when you can get Jeff excited about something in the world of wrestling these days.
Speaking of Jeff, his Twitter postings just taught me a whole lot about Lars Sullivan

That dude can fuck off forever
 
Mar 19, 2018
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Wait. Does WWE not pay the bills when someone gets hurt in action?
I recall hearing that they'll cover any wrestling injury that occurs at their events. IIRC, they do not cover things like ongoing back pain, bodies breaking down, etc. So it sounds like AEW may not be that different? It was a while ago that I heard that and I don't recall the source, so don't take that as gospel.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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target audience for attitude era was obviously drunken college bros. thing is, the most successful kids products are ALWAYS aimed at college aged bros. because kids want to be cool. has always been the case, always will be the case. this isn't hard.

shockingly, making a wrestling product with pee pee and kaka jokes where the main character is a 40 year old dressed like a 4 year old has been bleeding viewers, ESPECIALLY younger viewers. the main audience for wwe today looks like this:

 

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I recall hearing that they'll cover any wrestling injury that occurs at their events. IIRC, they do not cover things like ongoing back pain, bodies breaking down, etc. So it sounds like AEW may not be that different? It was a while ago that I heard that and I don't recall the source, so don't take that as gospel.
If they offer health insurance, it would help cover the costs for long term/on going issues that many wrestlers deal with. Even things like illness. Not just for specific incidents that occur at shows. So it would be very different actually.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I hope Christopher Daniels is getting a nice payday out of this.

Dude deserves it.



Wait. Does WWE not pay the bills when someone gets hurt in action?
They do, and they never cut people who are injured (I think there was one exception in the mid 2000s), so they continue making their downside while they recover, and only release them after they are fully cleared to return to the ring (if they were someone on the bubble). Hell, they take guys who's careers are over due to injury- like Jason Jordan and Droz- and move them into other roles in the company- with Droz being in charge of Online stuff for a decade and Jason Jordan being an agent
 
Mar 19, 2018
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If they offer health insurance, it would help cover the costs for long term/on going issues that many wrestlers deal with. Even things like illness. Not just for specific incidents that occur at shows. So it would be very different actually.
I was referring to the tweet posted above that had Cody saying 'anyone hurt in an AEW ring will be "covered"'. It suggests that only in-ring injuries will be covered, but of course I don't know the details of AEW health plan or if they will even have one.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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They do, and they never cut people who are injured (I think there was one exception in the mid 2000s), so they continue making their downside while they recover, and only release them after they are fully cleared to return to the ring (if they were someone on the bubble). Hell, they take guys who's careers are over due to injury- like Jason Jordan and Droz- and move them into other roles in the company- with Droz being in charge of Online stuff for a decade and Jason Jordan being an agent
Yeah.

Now that I think of it there would be way more uproar if WWE wanst doing it.


Didnt TNA get in shit once when Dixie said she would take care of that guy who broke his neck and then cutting him off not too long later
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I mean, I would be fine getting paid for not working, but I wouldn't be fine not working. I like having a career and improving myself.

If I could go somewhere else and actually work on my career while still getting paid (even if it means taking a pay cut), I'd do it. There's more to a job than the paycheck.
Dude, most of them have families and bills to pay. They aren’t all wrestling to satisfy marks like you lol.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I was referring to the tweet posted above that had Cody saying 'anyone hurt in an AEW ring will be "covered"'. It suggests that only in-ring injuries will be covered, but of course I don't know the details of AEW health plan or if they will even have one.
Khan says they don't have the healthcare thing ironed out yet so they're only able to say right now that you would at least get everything that WWE would offer

But it seems like they are aiming to give more than that and they'll probably announce it in the future
 
Oct 25, 2017
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East Lansing, MI
Khan says they don't have the healthcare thing ironed out yet so they're only able to say right now that you would at least get everything that WWE would offer

But it seems like they are aiming to give more than that and they'll probably announce it in the future
NFL team owners probably have some kind of "in" with insurance companies to provide coverage for athletes.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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He just said something to the effect of "Lars Sullivan should just share the stage with Hulk Hogan because they have a lot in common" so I did a Google search for "Lars Sullivan racist" and apparently he had some old message board posts where he said immigrants just wanted free stuff, that black people had a victim complex, as well as claiming he had "gotten with" Stephanie.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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He just said something to the effect of "Lars Sullivan should just share the stage with Hulk Hogan because they have a lot in common" so I did a Google search for "Lars Sullivan racist" and apparently he had some old message board posts where he said immigrants just wanted free stuff, that black people had a victim complex, as well as claiming he had "gotten with" Stephanie.
Oh
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Dude, most of them have families and bills to pay. They aren’t all wrestling to satisfy marks like you lol.
I think the argument people are making is that there are two things to consider:

1) a wrestlers worth can diminish by being booked poorly or not appearing at all.

2) a lot of wrestlers care about their legacy and building up their worth and careers.

Money is of course important but wrestling to many wrestlers is an art form and getting paid isn't the only thing that's important or needs considering. Also if they get dropped by wwe and have been booked like jobbers for years (if at all) then their potential to continue their career elsewhere is greatly diminished.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Just remember though...Trevor Lee is still a free agent.



Yeah...please never bring him onboard if he plans to sell like that again on the air lol.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I think they got a lot of people on board because of it. Late 90s-early 2000 was all about being edgy. WWE rode on the coattails of a culture that also made Limp Bizkit and COPS successful. Wrestling was so popular in that era that it was able to get by when the product sucked (people don't seem to remember a lot of the garbage from the attitude era). It's not like now where the ratings really take a hit when things aren't humming.
Sure, it definitely helped the ratings and to get kids to think it's cool. But as you point out, that stuff was almost all garbage, the actual parts of WWE's Attitude era that were good could've been done in PG. The entire nWo invasion of WCW was PG after all.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Oct 25, 2017
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Crossposting from the main wrestling thread:

Meltzer says Jericho's deal is for three years, and "the most lucrative deal he's ever signed". He's also able to work NJPW and his cruise.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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So apparently a few people have been pulled from independent dates on the 8th February with one of the reasons given as being “All Elite contractural obligations”