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All Elite Wrestling announced; bankrolled by Tony Khan, son of Jacksonville Jaguars and Fullham FC owner Shahid Khan

kiguel182

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Oct 31, 2017
3,797
It's going to be very interesting to see how they are going to extend this to a weekly product.

Writing a TV show every week is not easy and they don't have experience with that. Looking forward anyway regardless of growing pains.
 

Uno Venova

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,858
60-90 minutes. One show a week. let people actually starve for the next episode and want more, rather than making people sick of it.
 

Anth0ny

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Oct 25, 2017
16,026
It’s hard to predict a format not knowing how long a potential weekly show will be, but I could see it following the nitro format. Those shows usually had about 10 matches every week. Obviously you can tinker with that formula, make matches longer, do 6 or 8 man tags ala New Japan, etc.

Really hoping it’s 60-90 minutes a week and 4 ppvs a year, at least to start. NXT format is perfect imo, big shows feel big, only feature relevant performers, no padding... and if someone great is absent it just makes the anticipation for the next show even greater.
 

Hasney

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
6,376
I don't think the length matters so much. I remember some 3 hour Nitros flying by between angles, cruiserweights and some compelling matchups. They won't have a roster that deep though, so 1-1.5 hours will probably work. They just need to remember that not everyone has to appear every single week
 

crazyfunster

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Oct 27, 2017
2,517
60-90 minutes. One show a week. let people actually starve for the next episode and want more, rather than making people sick of it.
I'd like to see a main 90 minute show, then a 30 minute after-show which is a cross of NJPW style post-match interviews and "Talking Smack". The after-show would be streamed and be all talk. Maybe the occasional 2 hour special if they're doing a tournament arc (I think they should have their equivalent of the G1 and WTL)

Even at WCW's best, the 3 hour Nitros were too long by an hour, and AEW won't have a roster with the depth of WCW's. I don't think they'll have enough folks to fill 2 hours to start, so 90 minutes makes sense. Their roster right now is about ROH-level + Omega, and Omega can't be wrestling 20-30 minutes on TV every week.
 

funky

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Oct 25, 2017
7,174
Gimme a tight 60 minutes.

Every wrestler doesn't need to be on every week. It can work



Give me The current NXT format basically. 60 min shows and major events once every 3 months. Make the big matches feel big. Give stories time to develop
 

Lonewolf

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Oct 27, 2017
1,036
Oregon
I don't think that is more important, its just a kideo game and there's plenty of good ones out there like some sweet MDickie joints
Garbage games by a garbage person, why would you direct anyone to that?


As far as a perspective TV show and regular schedule, I'd rather they get 2 hours for the show and have 6 PPVs, give them time to breathe and expand in.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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I don't think the length matters so much. I remember some 3 hour Nitros flying by between angles, cruiserweights and some compelling matchups. They won't have a roster that deep though, so 1-1.5 hours will probably work. They just need to remember that not everyone has to appear every single week
I love WCW. But no show with Scott Norton, Ice Train and Stevie Ray flew right by.
 

funky

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Oct 25, 2017
7,174
My current worry is they are going to mess up their announce team.

The "hosts" they have had for these last 2 events have been terrible.


You can have all the talent you want in the ring but if the announcer sucks it will make everything worse.
 

Buckle

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Oct 27, 2017
15,745
My current worry is they are going to mess up their announce team.

The "hosts" they have had for these last 2 events have been terrible.


You can have all the talent you want in the ring but if the announcer sucks it will make everything worse.
This.

The guy in the mask seems pretty solid but the other two? They seem poisonously bad and bland.
 

Tabaxi

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Nov 18, 2018
1,007
My current worry is they are going to mess up their announce team.

The "hosts" they have had for these last 2 events have been terrible.
Conrad isn't a commentator so you don't have to worry about that.

I assume the commentary team is going to be Excalibur and someone else.
 

jett

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Oct 25, 2017
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When could Kenny Omega be announcing his participation?

And no TV deals yet?
 

thefro

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Oct 25, 2017
3,797
My current worry is they are going to mess up their announce team.

The "hosts" they have had for these last 2 events have been terrible.


You can have all the talent you want in the ring but if the announcer sucks it will make everything worse.
Excalibur (the guy in the mask) is an absolutely fantastic announcer.

The other two were hosts and wouldn't be part of the announce team calling matches. I like Conrad Thompson but I listen to two of his podcasts and can understand why people wouldn't like him. He isn't an AEW employee. Alex Marvez, who's done stuff for NFL Network/Jaguars pre-shows/SiriusXM is fine for a pre-show role as a host, interviewer, etc. He used to cover wrestling for like 20 years in the Miami Herald and knows his stuff.
 

PHOENIXZERO

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Oct 29, 2017
4,915
"Writing" a two hour wrestling show is only as difficult as you make it, the hardest part aside from keeping things like angles/stories compelling and fresh (which letting talent actually be involved will help a ton) is the timing things out to for everything you want while ending exactly when it's supposed to and talent following it, unless they're going to be writing everything word for word for talent and commentary like WWE while pushing a dozen unrelated company buzzwords they're not going to come anywhere close to the issues WWE has.

WWE makes it look hard because they have 30 person "writers room" with an out of touch senior citizen/control freak running things who changes his mind more times than the wind blows and will call for "rewrites" as the show is going leaving them borderline incapable of doing much long term booking or sometimes week to week with any running, consistent storylines beyond "me want title, you have title, me gonna beat you for title RAWR" that's like 80% of their angles. If Vince ran an actual TV series the way he runs Raw the show he'd be fired/relieved of his duties in a heartbeat.

EDIT: Here's an old Raw script from 1999: https://imgur.com/a/Xjtyc

And one from 2009, years after the number of writers they have expanded greatly when Stephanie took over creative.

https://imgur.com/a/Oogji
 
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Static Shock

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Oct 27, 2017
3,789
Florida
"Writing" a two hour wrestling show is only as difficult as you make it, the hardest part aside from keeping things like angles/stories compelling and fresh (which letting talent actually be involved will help a ton) is the timing things out to for everything you want while ending exactly when it's supposed to and talent following it, unless they're going to be writing everything word for word for talent and commentary like WWE while pushing a dozen unrelated company buzzwords they're not going to come anywhere close to the issues WWE has.

WWE makes it look hard because they have 30 person "writers room" with an out of touch senior citizen/control freak running things who changes his mind more times than the wind blows and will call for "rewrites" as the show is going leaving them borderline incapable of doing much long term booking or sometimes week to week with any running, consistent storylines beyond "me want title, you have title, me gonna beat you for title RAWR" that's like 80% of their angles. If Vince ran an actual TV series the way he runs Raw the show he'd be fired/relieved of his duties in a heartbeat.

EDIT: Here's an old Raw script from 1999: https://imgur.com/a/Xjtyc

And one from 2009, years after the number of writers they have expanded greatly when Stephanie took over creative.

https://imgur.com/a/Oogji
It's amazing how rigid they've become over the years...
 

Sweeney Swift

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,079
Dave's audio podcast with Kenny is up

"New Japan was the 3rd best option, the other 2 companies [AEW and WWE] were more excited to have me"

4 year AEW deal signed, he made sure his contract would allow him to do New Japan if that relationship ever comes together and they want him back

Ibushi has committments with his wrestling school in Japan but he expects him to show up in AEW at some point, just not at Double or Nothing
 

Lashley

Member
Oct 25, 2017
28,014
"Writing" a two hour wrestling show is only as difficult as you make it, the hardest part aside from keeping things like angles/stories compelling and fresh (which letting talent actually be involved will help a ton) is the timing things out to for everything you want while ending exactly when it's supposed to and talent following it, unless they're going to be writing everything word for word for talent and commentary like WWE while pushing a dozen unrelated company buzzwords they're not going to come anywhere close to the issues WWE has.

WWE makes it look hard because they have 30 person "writers room" with an out of touch senior citizen/control freak running things who changes his mind more times than the wind blows and will call for "rewrites" as the show is going leaving them borderline incapable of doing much long term booking or sometimes week to week with any running, consistent storylines beyond "me want title, you have title, me gonna beat you for title RAWR" that's like 80% of their angles. If Vince ran an actual TV series the way he runs Raw the show he'd be fired/relieved of his duties in a heartbeat.

EDIT: Here's an old Raw script from 1999: https://imgur.com/a/Xjtyc

And one from 2009, years after the number of writers they have expanded greatly when Stephanie took over creative.

https://imgur.com/a/Oogji
damn at the scripts
 

Buckle

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Oct 27, 2017
15,745
I only have a few demands for Double or Nothing.

First among of them: The Bucks must job to the Lucha Bros, then get on the mic on their knees while crying and say they'll never be as cool or strong as Penta and Fenix.
 

RBH

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Nov 2, 2017
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Cody talks about AEW's desire to go for a "very sports-centric presentation"


 

El-Suave

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Oct 27, 2017
1,691
I hope their TV deal has international live broadcasts. It would be best if they landed on a streaming service like Amazon Prime or DAZN. The crowd that will be into them from the beginning won‘t accept a broadcast delayed by a couple of days I‘d think.

As to the press conference - a major step up from the parking lot thing, but that pool in the background was begging for somebody to be pushed in there.
 

ahoyle

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Feb 16, 2018
147
I hope their TV deal has international live broadcasts. It would be best if they landed on a streaming service like Amazon Prime or DAZN. The crowd that will be into them from the beginning won‘t accept a broadcast delayed by a couple of days I‘d think.

As to the press conference - a major step up from the parking lot thing, but that pool in the background was begging for somebody to be pushed in there.
With the deep pockets of some of the streaming services, a play for this and the ppv events would be interesting. Live "sports" is of known interest to a lot of them.
 

Hasney

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
6,376
Apparently the pre registrations were over 12k and they were configuring for around that. MGM could hold closer to 20kz so will be interesting to see if they go for that and do a second round of sales later on
 
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shaowebb

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Oct 25, 2017
3,162
For those that missed the memo the OWE partnership is gonna be a major hit once they show it off.
OWE isn't just CIMA in china doin his thing with no talents. OWE actively recruits its wrestlers from Shaolin. Yes fucking shaolin. They are training the Shaolin to perform their stuff as wrestlers.

Seriously guys...OWE is gonna rock the shit outta matches running some of their guys out there for AEW. This is what those shaolin boys turned wrestlers get up to in the ring.

And yes they actually do legit wrestling, pacing, storytelling in the ring etc. What did ya think CIMA kept all his experience to himself in the locker room?
Just wait till you see Gao Jingjia and his insane vertical. Dude is like a chinese Ricochet.
Here's a link to a TON of the roster to browse
Enjoy the gif storm.



BTW...some of these look sped up. Fun fact...they're not.
 

Buckle

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Oct 27, 2017
15,745
Apparently the pre registrations were over 12k and they were configuring for around that. MGM could hold closer to 20kz so will be interesting to see if they go for that and do a second round
Would be interested to see what their roof here would be in regards to getting close to that 20k figure.

Go for it.
 

Buckle

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Oct 27, 2017
15,745
Kenny Omega just signed with AEW. Let the Monday Night Wars return.
We're a long LONG way away from that.

They got good money backing but don't expect them to explode into WWE's stratosphere of influence immediately anytime soon.

They're going to work their way up there and I hope they get there eventually but its important to have tempered expectations for the moment. They're going to be starting fairly humble despite some big advantages.