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All Elite Wrestling announced; bankrolled by Tony Khan, son of Jacksonville Jaguars and Fullham FC owner Shahid Khan

Oct 25, 2017
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In what world is Kenny Omega a 4th distant draw. The man was one of the biggest draws in the company. I can tell you that the biggest match last year was it Kenny Omega. Like he was a bigger draw than AJ ever was and a way way way way way bigger job and Karl Anderson was don't know why you put him on the list. And in order for New Japan to make and moving of America they need Kenny.
The entire NJPW push into the US was on the backs of The Elite. With them gone, they've lost a significant draw to international audiences.

Theey must have offered him everything to keep him
Most likely gave him resources to help his school.

I still see Kota being a key factor in NJPW leaving the door open to working with AEW.
 

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Pro Wrestling Sheet has learned Dave Bautista is in talks with WWE for a match at WrestleMania 35, but it’s not set in stone yet … and another company is expressing interest.

According to multiple sources, the “Guardians of the Galaxy” star is deep in talks with WWE about a return on “The Grandest Stage of Them All.”

However, we’re told he’s 50/50 on returning at this point based on how talks have gone.

In addition to this, we’re told there’s been interest expressed to Dave from All Elite Wrestling and he isn’t turning them away. Our sources say he’s listening to what both companies have to offer.
http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/dave-bautista-talks-wwe-wrestlemania/#.XGHEks9Ki8U
 

Hasney

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm fine with this but I don't want alot of Brock Lesnar esc deals (show up when you want, work when you want) etc. I want consistency
I think there can easily be a balance, like I don't want the same people on TV every week as it begins to feel stale.

Maybe just don't put your world title on them and then have them fuck off for months.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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In what world is Kenny Omega a 4th distant draw. The man was one of the biggest draws in the company. I can tell you that the biggest match last year was it Kenny Omega. Like he was a bigger draw than AJ ever was and a way way way way way bigger job and Karl Anderson was don't know why you put him on the list. And in order for New Japan to make in moving of America they need Kenny.
What? You need to calm down, you didn't even seem to read my post and you're not making much sense.

Yes, distant fourth biggest draw. Okada, Naito and Tanahashi are much bigger draws than him. Biggest match last year? You mean his match with Okada at Dominion? How is that meant to prove he's one of the biggest draws in the company?

My point bringing up those three names is they all left at the same time and there was a gaping hole in their wake (which directly led to Kenny's heavyweight push, if they'd stayed he'd probably still be a Jr). Compared to that, the Elite leaving NJPW is nowhere near as bad. Nakamura was a far bigger draw than Kenny, AJ Styles wasn't quite as big but he was still a major star and yes, Karl Anderson was a star too. I'm guessing you only started watching NJPW recently but Karl Anderson was a quality upper middle carder who'd been around for years, main evented shows and had some great matches. He sure as hell meant more to NJPW than the Bucks or Cody.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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The entire NJPW push into the US was on the backs of The Elite. With them gone, they've lost a significant draw to international audiences.
This is definitely a US - Japan issue. In Japan, Omega is behind all of the major natives, but he drew a lot of international attention. Its going to be very interesting to see what New Japan does in the US the next year or two.
 

Hasney

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Oct 25, 2017
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When they did Smackdown 1000 or whatever that was a few months ago when Batista was there they teased a match with HHH which sounds like something he always petitioned for as a Wrestlemania match. Now he finds himself in a bidding war as well. Lucky Dave.
HHH might not be ready for Mania after tearing a titty for Saudi blood money, so they'd have to think something up
 
Oct 25, 2017
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What? You need to calm down, you didn't even seem to read my post and you're not making much sense.

Yes, distant fourth biggest draw. Okada, Naito and Tanahashi are much bigger draws than him. Biggest match last year? You mean his match with Okada at Dominion? How is that meant to prove he's one of the biggest draws in the company?

My point bringing up those three names is they all left at the same time and there was a gaping hole in their wake (which directly led to Kenny's heavyweight push, if they'd stayed he'd probably still be a Jr). Compared to that, the Elite leaving NJPW is nowhere near as bad. Nakamura was a far bigger draw than Kenny, AJ Styles wasn't quite as big but he was still a major star and yes, Karl Anderson was a star too. I'm guessing you only started watching NJPW recently but Karl Anderson was a quality upper middle carder who'd been around for years, main evented shows and had some great matches. He sure as hell meant more to NJPW than the Bucks or Cody.
Karl was a just guy New Japan at most she was just a mid card guy. Don't let pointless New beginning main events fool you.

Karl Anderson in no way was a star in new Japan. Kenny Omega was a key part of their 2018 like he was their key part of their g1 this year a main event in almost every show comparing Kenny Omega situation to those guys is completely different because the companies in a different place. They need Kenny Omega if they want to push in North America.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Honestly Im fine with Ibushi staying in NJPW. If anything it might help get the company to keep ties to Kenny.

And even if he left he would only be a rare special attraction for AEW. and I would LOVE to see Kota get a run with the IWGP title over just about anything.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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What? You need to calm down, you didn't even seem to read my post and you're not making much sense.

Yes, distant fourth biggest draw. Okada, Naito and Tanahashi are much bigger draws than him. Biggest match last year? You mean his match with Okada at Dominion? How is that meant to prove he's one of the biggest draws in the company?

My point bringing up those three names is they all left at the same time and there was a gaping hole in their wake (which directly led to Kenny's heavyweight push, if they'd stayed he'd probably still be a Jr). Compared to that, the Elite leaving NJPW is nowhere near as bad. Nakamura was a far bigger draw than Kenny, AJ Styles wasn't quite as big but he was still a major star and yes, Karl Anderson was a star too. I'm guessing you only started watching NJPW recently but Karl Anderson was a quality upper middle carder who'd been around for years, main evented shows and had some great matches. He sure as hell meant more to NJPW than the Bucks or Cody.
Are there numbers that shows the draws in Japan?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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There was a popularity poll in Japan. The top 5 NJPW were those 4 and Hiromu. Kenny was a legit draw in Japan. Kenny and Ibushi were really popular with women (but Naito and Hiromu were just as popular)
 
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There was a popularity poll in Japan. The top 5 NJPW were those 4 and Hiromu. Kenny was a legit draw in Japan. Kenny and Ibushi were really popular with women (but Naito and Hiromu were just as popular)
Omega would have been bigger if they let him cut promos in Japanese. NJPW wouldn't let him do interviews and promos in Japanese because he was a foreign heel.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Omega would have been bigger if they let him cut promos in Japanese. NJPW wouldn't let him do interviews and promos in Japanese because he was a foreign heel.
He was cutting promos in Japanese once he started to turn face.

BTW there's usually more allotments of tickets- so if it's sold out now more tickets will likely be sold.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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If you guys have a friend to go with and money to spend you can get near front row seats and hotel for like 1.2 k totaly, that's 2 seats.

So 600 each but that's ticket and 2 nights hotel
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Karl was a just guy New Japan at most she was just a mid card guy. Don't let pointless New beginning main events fool you.

Karl Anderson in no way was a star in new Japan. Kenny Omega was a key part of their 2018 like he was their key part of their g1 this year a main event in almost every show comparing Kenny Omega situation to those guys is completely different because the companies in a different place. They need Kenny Omega if they want to push in North America.
A mid carder who was booked strongly and main evented a number of shows. It's almost as if he was an... upper middle carder. Come the fuck on, he was a star, that's why when Devitt left, they made him and AJ the Bullet Club's co-leades.

It's also funny you're calling New Beginning main events pointless today of all days.

I never said Kenny wasn't a draw, so I have no idea why you're going on about him. Him leaving will definitely hurt NJPW, particularly in the US, but AGAIN if they can lose two main eventers (one of whom is still far more popular than Kenny even though he wrestles in purgatory) and an upper middle carder at once and come out even stronger after rebuilding, I have no doubts they'll be fine. Gedo has an incredible eye for talent and ability to make new stars.

There was a popularity poll in Japan. The top 5 NJPW were those 4 and Hiromu. Kenny was a legit draw in Japan. Kenny and Ibushi were really popular with women (but Naito and Hiromu were just as popular)
Yeah and Naito and Tanahashi were over twice as popular as everyone else. Okada was surprisingly low but the poll was taken right at the end of his title run so I'm guessing that was mostly because everyone was exhausted by his run. At shows he's FAR more over now than he was back then.

Omega would have been bigger if they let him cut promos in Japanese. NJPW wouldn't let him do interviews and promos in Japanese because he was a foreign heel.
You mean before he turned face? What makes you think NJPW specifically prevented him from speaking Japanese? Kenny's a pro, he wouldn't undermine his character and story like that.