I thought, "Why is he asking about games I already posted?" And then I saw that they weren't on the list. Like a doofus, when I updated my files a week or so ago, I never uploaded the new versions. So my local copies were fine, but the games I said I added weren't in there. I've corrected this now. Sorry for any confusion I caused.
My initial glance says "sort of". It doesn't look like any of the main photographic imagery is higher than 1080p. (Indeed, some parts look 720p upscaled.) Only the text/graphic design elements of the UI are native 4K, which is usually so common and minor a benefit I don't even mention it. However, this particular game uses lots and lots of text overlays for dialogue and narration. Plus a lot of user activity takes place in menus. Given this, and the fact that true photos upscale more gracefully than most CG imagery, the subjective experience of playing Shibuya Scramble will probably seem a lot sharper on Pro.
When it came out, all the captures I saw were 1080p on Pro. There wasn't any footage to analyze framerate at the time. When I get a chance, I'll check it again in case a patch came down, or there's just simply more material to look at.
Thanks! In order to pixel count, the screenshot resolution needs to be at least as high as the game's highest rendering resolution. Since these are 1080p shots, that's the highest I can directly derive from them. Aliasing patterns do suggest a higher res is reached--as the current stats show--but can't definitively prove it. Is there any way you can repost these as 4K shots? That'd allow exact counting.
Thanks for the info!
Thanks a lot. These shots allow me to say that I/O has changed the way Hitman 2's performance option works on Pro. Instead of staying at the same resolution and unlocking framerate, it's now much more like other performance modes. It drops resolution to 1080p, but the framerate now reaches 60fps with some fluctuation lower (instead of 30fps with some fluctuation higher). The janitor's closet pictures further let me say the resolution is set and not dynamic (because it doesn't go up in such a limited area). Your help is much appreciated!
Yes, that does appear to be the case (though note that Sony hasn't quite confirmed this explicitly yet).
P5R is actually in the list now, I just added it. It does appear to supersample at 1080p. FFVIIR isn't in the list yet, because I don't add games until they've released. But the demo does not automatically supersample at 1080p. You have to force it through the OS.
Did you try both of the HDR modes? I think they're called Game and Cinematic?
Just keep it off. Borked HDR, as it raises the black level. Looks terrible on my OLED.
Look, I wouldn't be so rude as to reject other people's generosity. But such a gesture would be totally unnecessary. First, it's not quite certain how PS5 will handle PS4 games...or, unfortunately, whether its launch may get delayed entirely. More importantly, me having the hardware would have little effect on the content of this thread. I don't currently have the wherewithal to purchase many games, so even with owning a Pro I'm almost exclusively basing everything off internet resources anyway (including people in this thread). The same would be true for PS5. I'm not going to tell you what to do, but wanted to make that clear. Whenever I end up deciding to stop updating this thread, it will be because I don't have time to do it anymore. Not because of what machine I own.
Can you remind us what the best capture method is for 4K images (format) and best place to host the pictures?
The best capture method is 4K PNG on the Pro, even if you believe the game is running at lower resolution. However, JPG is acceptable if you move it straight from PS4 to PC without resaving.
Lensdump is a good hosting website.
Thanks for the investigation, and the screenshots! Having looked at them, I can confirm that this game definitely does have Pro support (details to follow). While it wasn't in the launch list, and not tagged as such in the PlayStation Store or in any interview or the like, this doesn't mean much. The fact that many games have to be examined after release to determine whether and what benefits they have is the entire reason this thread exists, after all! We have analysis, and in fact we do also have the developer confirming support.
I was completely unaware that multiplayer was a standalone game. Thanks for notifying me! I'll look into it and see if I can find out how it compares to the main game.
Thanks for the investigation, and the screenshots! Having looked at them, I can confirm that this game definitely does have Pro support (details to follow). While it wasn't in the launch list, and not tagged as such in the PlayStation Store or in any interview or the like, this doesn't mean much. The fact that many games have to be examined after release to determine whether and what benefits they have is the entire reason this thread exists, after all! We have analysis, and in fact we do also have the developer confirming support.
A search will still find this tweet:
...but if I try to follow the link I get an error message. Perhaps it's been archived, or maybe removed. This could be due to the case that the game is not, in fact, full 4K. However, only some of the screens you posted match the 1440p count I've had in the list for years. Other screens you posted count as 1296p, and when I went back and recounted some old shots I had, those too showed this different count. I apologize for missing this detail before.
Since the collection is really two games (Years 1-4 and Years 5-7) perhaps that's the split. Are these accessed from separate entries on the starting menu? Or do you just play through them all as if they were one big adventure to begin with? And more importantly, of the 5 screenshots you shared, can you say which ones come from which half? Or are they all from one?
Thanks again for all your help!
I was completely unaware that multiplayer was a standalone game. Thanks for notifying me! I'll look into it and see if I can find out how it compares to the main game.
I looked into this, and all the screenshots I could find are 1080p. However, the main FF XV game has multiple modes and two of them are also 1080p. So if Comrades has the same setup, this would be unsurprising and the game could still have Pro enhancements. Do you have the game yourself? If so, even just seeing if there are graphical options could help determine what's going on. If there is a "Favor Resolution" mode, 4K screenshots from that would be diagnostic.
Actually, the other way around. The Years 1-4 screenshots are 1296p, and the Years 5-7 shots are 1440p. (Please note that both games have a narrow depth of field to make the characters and objects look more like LEGO toys viewed up close. So objects in close foreground or deep background are lightly blurred, and will count as lower resolution than areas in sharp focus.)
Great, thanks! All the roaming and cutscene shots count as 1620p. The battle shots are a little harder to count, but appear to be just slightly lower. I can't rule out this may be due to confounding effects from motion blur, however. In any case, these support the previous analysis done.
The best way is to set your PS4 Pro's rendering output to 1080p manually. Then take the same screenshot twice, once with system-wide Supersampling set on, and one with it set off. If they're identical, then the game automatically supersamples even when the option is off.
No options" here... did you mean to set resolution from setting on dashboard?
Yeah. Trials is one of those types of games. You'll get different results based on what resolution the PS4 Pro is outputting (and whether you have SS on or off at 1080p).
Thanks a lot! The game is 1440p. Presuming those flags are waving about, I don't see any evidence of temporal reconstruction. (Though these don't appear to be fast-moving scenes). I'll add the game once I get a chance to analyze some video for it. Again, much appreciated!
Mafia III is the same game, but with dlcs. No changes whatsoever.
