Looks fine, don't love it, don't hate it. I imagine any alternative at that time would have looked pretty bad anyway.
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Am I the only one who didn't hate the Green Goblin's suit in the first Spider-Man film
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I mean, it is a little dumb looking, but Willem Dafoe did such a great job with the character it doesn't even bother me.
I'm not as big a fan of the Raimi films as most people but I've never had anything wrong with the Goblin suit, nah.
... That being said I wouldn't want a mechanical suit goblin for the Sony-MCU take. Call it more of an acceptable product of 2000s comic films.
... That being said I wouldn't want a mechanical suit goblin for the Sony-MCU take. Call it more of an acceptable product of 2000s comic films.
I didn't hate it.
I wasn't familiar with the character going into the movie, so it was never an issue with me.
Still looks good to me.
I wasn't familiar with the character going into the movie, so it was never an issue with me.
Still looks good to me.
It's such a waste taking a brilliant, expressive actor like Willem Dafoe, casting him as an emotive character, and then putting an unmoving mask over his face. He has great, scenery-chewing moments as plain old Norman Osborn.
I always remember the rooftop scene when he's monologuing at Spider-Man and you can kind of see him doing his full-on, wide-eyed thing through the eyeholes, but it's mostly wasted as two masked characters talking. Like a Power Rangers episode where they've just dubbed over some licensed footage of masked superheroes.
I always remember the rooftop scene when he's monologuing at Spider-Man and you can kind of see him doing his full-on, wide-eyed thing through the eyeholes, but it's mostly wasted as two masked characters talking. Like a Power Rangers episode where they've just dubbed over some licensed footage of masked superheroes.
It could be worse but it's not good. The suit itself is actually fine. Especially when you think about it in the context of it being a military flight suit. But if you apply that logic to the helmet it both doesn't make sense, and it commits the sin of keeping us from seeing Dafoe emoting (which is the real tragedy).
Agreed 100%.
The perfect casting, but the costume left nothing for him to work with.
I honestly think the only way Green Goblin could work well in live action (without copping out and making it a helmet and suit) is to make him a transformation. Not like a big bulky dragon man like he was in Ultimate, or the weird shit we got in Amazing SM2. Something that looks closer to the 616 comics like the animatronic video shown (though if that was meant for Dafoe, I'd go even lighter on the animatronics or maybe just go full prosthetic makeup).
It fit the goofy-as-fuck tone of the Raimi films perfectly IMO. Would look terrible in the ASM or MCU versions though.
It was fine Willem Dafoe killed it in the role overall. Spider-Man in general was step forward with movie companies not being embarrassed to be associated with comics or being comic accurate. The X-Men and Fox refused to change throughout this time and still kept all their shit generic cause we don't want to be associated with what they come from. Deadpool started to be more comic accurate in the characters but it was too little too late.
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Blows my mind Wolverine has yet to wear his suit in live action
This concept art for that movie looked better than what they ultimately went with.
Maybe the green skin tights are bit much but that top half is way better than the green meanie's helmet.
The final glider was better than this jetski thing though.
Maybe the green skin tights are bit much but that top half is way better than the green meanie's helmet.
The final glider was better than this jetski thing though.
You mean Spider-Man has the best rogues gallery with Batman directly behind him.
Spectacular Green Goblin is the best. His voice was perfect.
Also the Goblin got a cool redesign in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3:
Willem Dafoe's face was born to play GG. Because of that I give the green suit somewhat of a pass. I wish I could see his expressions through it.
Now that is terrifying.
This concept art for that movie looked better than what they ultimately went with.
Maybe the green skin tights are bit much but that top half is way better than the green meanie's helmet.
The final glider was better than this jetski thing though.
Now that is terrifying.
I much prefered it to the comic one.
Comic Goblin is way too goofy to work on screen, way more then Mysterio ever was.
Call me crazy but my favorite GG look is the one from ASM2.
Comic Goblin is way too goofy to work on screen, way more then Mysterio ever was.
Call me crazy but my favorite GG look is the one from ASM2.
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Now this would have been cooler. I will always enjoy Raimi channeling more of his Evil Dead energy.This concept art for that movie looked better than what they ultimately went with.
Maybe the green skin tights are bit much but that top half is way better than the green meanie's helmet.
The final glider was better than this jetski thing though.
Stjepan Sejic had this cool design from his deviantart back in 2012:
Movie version of Goblins suit was the worst. They had cool animatronic mask options, but settled for the cheap plastic mask. Hope when we get him in the MCU they redeem his look.
I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it either. It's really just Power Ranger shit. It looks cheap.
I like it a lot, although it could have been better. I generally think the comic book version is pretty lame. I know a lot of Spider-Man's villains are "lame"/cheesy but I've always specifically disliked Goblin. My big problem with it is that it looks overdesigned. My ideal movie Goblin design would be closer to that DeviantArt picture posted above. The concept art above is pretty decent as well, making it look like a human disfigured to the point where comparisons to a goblin could be drawn rather than looking like a typical goblin (not in the ASM2 way though, that was fucking terrible)
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It was fine at the time. Saved by the fact that you could see Dafoe's eyes and mouth through the translucent parts of the mask.
it hasn't aged well.
it hasn't aged well.
This is the real criticism of the suit. It was an obstacle to performance, not an enhancement of it.
It's very... early 2000's. Can't hate. I also still think Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man suit is the best Spiderman suit. It's charming for it's time TBH. I was like 8 years old when Sam Rami's Spider-Man came out. Good times for childhood me. I thought everything looked awesome back then. Man, those were the best days... Watching Spider-Man AND playing the Spider-Man videogame on my PS2. Nostalgic.
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