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AMD Ryzen 3000 and Radeon RX 5700 - Review Thread

Allietraa

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Looks solid but a little disappointing compared to the older "leaks"(Which were unrealistic but still!). Sad that the 3600 doesnt really "beat" the 9600k in games but cant argue with 98% of the gaming performance for 75%~ of the price(plus the obvious productivity gains). And Overclocking is dissapointing from the perspective of what "extra" you can get, although I'm never gonna be mad about a product not leaving performance on the table.
 

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Allietraa said:
Looks solid but a little disappointing compared to the older "leaks"(Which were unrealistic but still!). Sad that the 3600 doesnt really "beat" the 9600k in games but cant argue with 98% of the gaming performance for 75%~ of the price(plus the obvious productivity gains). And Overclocking is dissapointing from the perspective of what "extra" you can get, although I'm never gonna be mad about a product not leaving performance on the table.
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Its not a perfect product mind you, but for Intel there is a very few case scenarios where someone now would choose an Intel Cpu over an AMD one and that is a huge win from AMD, just remember than less than 3 years ago they were still riding on those awfull buldozzer cores.
 
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Got to say, RX 5700 really surprised me

Also Ryzen 3000 is a productivity beast

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Jebusman

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Serious Sam said:
People are too fixated on comparisons against 9900K, where as important takeaway is how Ryzen 3xxx compares against 9600K and 9700K, especially in gaming (since that's what most of us are here for). I mean how often do you archive zip files or render videos with Handbrake? I do that once or twice a year, but I spend gaming 5-15 hours every week, so I need every bit of juice I can get for best framerates. That's my reasoning here, but others have different opinions on this subject and that's fine.
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I definitely render stuff in Handbrake more often than I would like, so cutting that time down significantly while still getting ~95% of the gaming performance I would have with Intel makes Ryzen a pretty compelling case.
 
Linus815

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Serious Sam said:
People are too fixated on comparisons against 9900K, where as important takeaway is how Ryzen 3xxx compares against 9600K and 9700K, especially in gaming (since that's what most of us are here for). I mean how often do you archive zip files or render videos with Handbrake? I do that once or twice a year, but I spend gaming 5-15 hours every week, so I need every bit of juice I can get for best framerates. That's my reasoning here, but others have different opinions on this subject and that's fine.
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The 9600k is likely going the way of 7600k. 6c6t won't be good enough when next gen hits, if consoles are truly going to be utilizing Zen cores, especially if they'll also have SMT on top of the 8 cores.
 

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low-G said:
As expected, the 9900K maintains a substantial lead for gaming. Those 3900X temps and power usage are some mega-woof, too. Doesn't seem like a great gaming-only choice. Also, it doesn't seem like there's a real way around the CPU power / performance curve (on x64) at this point... The 3700X and 9900K are pretty close in terms of power use / heat generation.

But the 3700X looks like a fantastic value and a great choice for mid range.
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The 3700x literally consumes almost half of what the 9900k does, and is a lot cooler (the 3900x is also cooler and consumes less). What are you even talking about lol
 
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MrBob

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Whelp, time to replace my ryzen 1600 in my htpc. Been waiting for this moment. 3700x is such a strong value for the money, I see this as the new go to king cpu for the next year. I was going to get upgrade to the 3900x but since it's mainly for gaming I may just get the 3700x now. Not sure if 12 cores will ever be needed for gaming purposes any time soon, and until they are needed the 3700x and 3900x are almost identical for gaming.
 
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Admittedly, the OC performance is a bit underwhelming. I wasn't thinking they could get to 5ghz, but man I was hoping for at least a 4.6-7 max.
 
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low-G said:
As expected, the 9900K maintains a substantial lead for gaming. Those 3900X temps and power usage are some mega-woof, too. Doesn't seem like a great gaming-only choice. Also, it doesn't seem like there's a real way around the CPU power / performance curve (on x64) at this point... The 3700X and 9900K are pretty close in terms of power use / heat generation.

But the 3700X looks like a fantastic value and a great choice for mid range.
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Huh? The 3900x has lower consumption and temps and the 3700x is less than half of that.
 
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I wonder when will Intel respond with price cut.
that 3700X power consumption is unbelievable

very good for ITX build
 
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Great out of the box chips but they don't overclock worth a shit. Toms hardware did a max OC of a 3700x vs max OC of a 9700k and intel still crushes AMD in games when both are unleashed.
 
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Looking back at the benchmarks, we'll probably see the 3600 land somewhere between the 2600X and 9600K in gaming benchmarks. The 9600k will probably have an edge in most games, but not as much as it used to. And for anyone looking to stream, or doing a budget build where the bundled cooler and -$20 sticker price helps them stay under budget, the 3600 will be an easy choice.
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Yup, seems about what I was expecting.

As for the 5700/XT:
In short: They perform better than their price competitors (2060 @ $350 and 2060 Super @ $400), consume less power than their AMD predecessors, but they run hot. (In gaming power test, the XT gets to 85C; the 5700 was nearly to 80C, but its fan was also spinning slower during sustained load for some reason.) Hopefully aftermarket 2-3 fan cards can remedy this.
 
Cripterion

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Ok...after watching several reviews on Youtube, I can safely say I won't upgrade and keep my i7 8700K, the gaming performance on the new chips is not all that.

But this is good stuff from AMD, especially on the price front.
 
RoninStrife

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I remember my first proper pc after my hand me down 386 and 486, it was an AMD Duron that was pretty much a joke in comparison to Intel's offering at the time. I vowed never to go the AMD route again! For the most part... I stayed away Pentuim 3, Intel Dual Core and the first one I ever built.. an i5 2500k for the last few years..
Time to jump on the AMD train.
 
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Cripterion said:
Ok...after watching several reviews on Youtube, I can safely say I won't upgrade and keep my i7 8700K, the gaming performance on the new chips is not all that.

But this is good stuff from AMD, especially on the price front.
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At this point with Intel, you're essentially paying more for OC headroom. At least on their K skus, I don't see a reason for them to have any significant price drops.
 

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Well, i have a rx580 paired with a ryzen 5 2600x

Time to upgrade? Or i can hold a year or two to get a bigger upgrade?
 
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RoninStrife said:
I remember my first proper pc after my hand me down 386 and 486, it was an AMD Duron that was pretty much a joke in comparison to Intel's offering at the time. I vowed never to go the AMD route again! For the most part... I stayed away Pentuim 3, Intel Dual Core and the first one I ever built.. an i5 2500k for the last few years..
Time to jump on the AMD train.
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It's crazy only like 3 years ago AMD was still offering their godawful Bulldozer series. What a change since then
 
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Looks good so far. I'd like to see the comparisons for the 3600/3600x/3700x. I have a 1600 now but the price gap between the 3600 and the 3700x is $180cdn ($280, $340, $460 from 3600, 3600x and 3700x). Which is a big ass jump. I suppose I could reuse my AsRock B350 to save some cash, though my crappy 2400mhz Ram needs a replace as well. $$$$
 
Jroc

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If the next gen consoles have SMT then 16 threads will be the new "baseline." I wonder if AMDs significantly better multithreading will start to increase the gaming gap with Intel a few years down the line.

This gen technically had 8 threads (I guess 6 when you factor in the OS overhead) as the baseline, but the jags were so weak that a 4 thread 2500K could still stomp them.
 

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3700x looking very good overall
Was thinking of upgrading from my 6700k to it but I don't think it's gonna be worth it just for gaming
 
elzeus

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It's nice to see AMD competing again! Hopefully they get their GPU's in order next year because Intel isn't going to play around with their new GPU's and Nvidia's 7nm cards are going to be bananas.
 
RoboPlato

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Zen 2 reviews are absolutely glowing and Navi is more positive than I expected. Great stuff from AMD. Now to keep building their GPU side like they have the CPU side.
 
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elzeus said:
It's nice to see AMD competing again! Hopefully they get their GPU's in order next year because Intel isn't going to play around with their new GPU's and Nvidia's 7nm cards are going to be bananas.
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Here's hoping. They're weren't playing around with Larabee, either, and that was such a disaster it never even launched.
 
EduBRK

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They are excellent, AMD is definitely back in the game, but I'm still on Intel's side. I always O.C. my CPU's, an OC I9 9900K / I7 9700K is still considerably more powerfull than AMD's offering. But that is due my case, 1080p@144hz gamer / programmer.

If I were to use my PC for streaming or some kind of HEAVY multi-core workload, I would definitely consider it.
 
DieH@rd

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Very impressive offering with Ryzen 3000, and R7 3700X looks to be sweetspot. R5 3600 is gonna sell like hotcakes though. R9 3900X is a beast.

AMD now has a chance to even release a refresh next summer, before the arrival of Intel's new parts. If they manage to increase the clocks a bit, they could even become leaders in gaming.... although in realistic gaming scenarios [higher resolutions], Zen2 will match Intel easily.

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So if I have a Ryzen 1600. Do I definitely need a new mobo if I upgrade to one of these?
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R5 3600 uses as much power as your R5 1600, and it offers 30%+ better performance when CPU is the bottleneck. It's a really great upgrade!

If you have non-really-entry-level mobo, you could even rock R7 3700X since it uses only ~105W.
 
Trago

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Really strong offering from AMD!

And they're catching up with gaming performance too.

I can't wait to see how the 3950X performs in a few months.

Since I do quite a bit of video editing, updating my rig with the 3900X or 3950X is looking like the move.
 
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TaySan said:
Huh? The 3900x has lower consumption and temps and the 3700x is less than half of that.
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The 3700x literally consumes almost half of what the 9900k does, and is a lot cooler (the 3900x is also cooler and consumes less). What are you even talking about lol
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This is what I based my opinion off of. Maybe they screwed up? I figured /r/AMD would get it right? Puts the 3900X at 11C or more higher than the 9900k...

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Jroc said:
If the next gen consoles have SMT then 16 threads will be the new "baseline." I wonder if AMDs significantly better multithreading will start to increase the gaming gap with Intel a few years down the line.

This gen technically had 8 threads (I guess 6 when you factor in the OS overhead) as the baseline, but the jags were so weak that a 4 thread 2500K could still stomp them.
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Games doesn't properly utilize even 6 threads in most cases even 6 years into current-gen so even if next-gen consoles come with 16 threads it will take looooooong time for it to become baseline requirement for gaming.
 

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considering my shitty 6700K can only do 4.3 with 2666 ram then i'm happy going with a 3900X and pushing my RAM to 3200.

also i play at 1440p so all these 1080p benchmarks are useless to me.
 
Reinhard

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My irrational side really wanted the 3900x just for more cores, but I passed on it when it was still for sale last night on Newegg before selling out. Now after seeing the reviews, the 3700x and 3900x are near identical for gaming so I don't feel bad about ordering the 3700x instead.
 
dmr87

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Good stuff and Intel will probably adjust prices.

But not that hot if you are into games and OCing only.
 
jett

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It's looking like absolute destruction for Intel.
 
DieH@rd

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I now want to see comprehensive Zen 2 comparisons against R5 1600 in higher resolutions [since I usually game on 4K or ultrawide 1440p] with my 1080Ti.
 
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Is there any reason to upgrade from i5 6600K to Ryzen 7 3700x for video games? Plan is to go pretty high-end and pair it with an RTX 2080 Super.
 
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