I know, I'm just a bit worried about updating to it lol. Thanks though!
TL;DR: as long as you're running your CPU at stock and you have a decent enough cooler so it doesn't throttle, everything is fine.
What are the thoughts on the included Wraith Prism coolers? My 3700x came with one, but I'm swapping it out today for an old Cooler Master 212 Evo that I didn't realize is probably better.
Great work! Please do Arkham Knight, Ryse, Watch Dogs 2 if you can.If anyone has any suggestions of what games to test please say, I will gladly test them if I have them! Here's some of the games I have!
Great work! Please do Arkham Knight, Ryse, Watch Dogs 2 if you can.
I'm close of buying a 3700X. Do you guys recommend going for this board?
I want PCI-E 4 to future proof it. I don't care about SLI or very high overclocking.
This is a good summary regarding the whole voltages and temps of Zen 2 and people freaking out over it. Figured I post it since it keeps getting brought up in here as well.
TL;DR: as long as you're running your CPU at stock and you have a decent enough cooler so it doesn't throttle, everything is fine.
Could be a driver bug or something with Windows. Did you try older driver versions? If you have afterburner installed it could mess things up.Im really tired of my RX 5700 XT....only issues and issues...
Anyone can help me to find out what's going on ?
I did DDU several times to clean drivers and reinstall all from zero...
The problem is the card stops working well, the mice do jumps on my screen (lag) and Youtube restarts, when I open the Wattman....nothing shows up! Is like wattman don't detect the card:
If I start a game...it works but the fans of the card don't work and starts to make a coil whine sound...If I restart the PC all works well...until it happens again. I don't know what to do...im really starting to think to return the card and get 2070 super, I prefer to pay more and have no issues. (my first time with AMD GPU and kinda dissappointed tbh...)
Im really tired of my RX 5700 XT....only issues and issues...
Anyone can help me to find out what's going on ?
I did DDU several times to clean drivers and reinstall all from zero...
The problem is the card stops working well, the mice do jumps on my screen (lag) and Youtube restarts, when I open the Wattman....nothing shows up! Is like wattman don't detect the card:
If I start a game...it works but the fans of the card don't work and starts to make a coil whine sound...If I restart the PC all works well...until it happens again. I don't know what to do...im really starting to think to return the card and get 2070 super, I prefer to pay more and have no issues. (my first time with AMD GPU and kinda dissappointed tbh...)
B450 can handle 3600(X)/3700X just fine (with some few exceptions, see link below). No new MoBo necessary.What is advised for someone with a 2600x / B450 mobo thinking about upgrading to Zen 2, worth it or not really? I can't upgrade my motherboard any time soon. But I am curious...
Do you guys think it would be better to get a 5700 XT with custom cooling in a few weeks or a RTX 2060 /2070 super? My partner wants better than his 1060 for a 4k TV and I'm torn on the best option. The 5700 seems like it performs quite well when over clocked.
TL;DR: as long as you're running your CPU at stock and you have a decent enough cooler so it doesn't throttle, everything is fine.
You're right that it does seem scary when we're getting to these tiny feature sizes and FinFET being way more sensitive to all this compared to like 32nm that could take a beating like a camp. You'd assume that AMD and TSMC's engineers know what the fuck they're doing when it comes to longevity. Still, there's a difference between shoving 1.5V through a single core under low loads and people doing an all core OC at 1.35V and thinking they'll be fine in the long run. But yeah, only time will tell.The reason people freak out is because we remember Sudden Northwood Death Syndrome back in the early aughts. 1.5V on some variant of 7nm seems sui-fucking-cidal for a CPU. Double that when it's stock air cooled and will be operating at a higher aggregate temperature than a closed loop or other enthusiast cooling kit. When the CPU is operating voltage that high on channel lengths that small it trips people's sanity checks as it should. It doesn't mean instant failure but possibly (a lot) more CPUs failing just outside the warranty period. Only time will tell if AMD have truly fucked up here but I'm comfortable placing my bet on a Zen 2 scandal in a few years as these things start failing like crazy.
You'd assume that AMD and TSMC's engineers know what the fuck they're doing when it comes to longevity.
Mindfactory.de sales numbers (units) of CPUs July 2019:
A 79/21 split in favor of AMD!
How much are custom 2070 Supers?
Fine enough for Stock. Any OCing i would recommend an aftermath cooler.Just got my Ryzen 3600 in. How's the stock cooler on it. Should I invest in an aftermarket cooler. Not really looking to do any overclocking.
Silly question but should I be setting pbo and Auto OC in bios or Ryzen master ?
I simply just enabled PBO in the bios. Did not mess with the voltages.Did you have to mess with voltages or was it simply tick the boxes and done? Also which mobo?
Did you have to mess with voltages or was it simply tick the boxes and done? Also which mobo?
Same upgrade and I can confirm. So much smoother, it's insane the difference. GTA V as well is way better.Played Battlefield V for 3 hours straight and performance feels so much more consistent on 3900x compared to i7 6700k.
No stutters at all during gameplay.
I went with the RX 5700XT but the 2070 Super is a very good choice too but i didn't want to spend $500.They start at the same price as the already good founders edition
A moot point though because it looks like some custom 5700 XT (from Powercolor anyway) will also retail for the same price as the reference card
I went with the RX 5700XT but the 2070 Super is a very good choice too but i didn't want to spend $500.
Based on all tests I saw on the internet the the 3900X, 3700X and 3600 were the recommended CPUs in the ine-up. 3600X and 3800X are seen as obsolete by most testers I follow (bad performance gain/per $ ratio).This brutal slaying could be made into a standalone thread:
In July, for each 1 Intel CPU sold on mindfactory.de, AMD managed to sell 4 more.
3900X was supply limited, and surprisingly 3600X did not sold much. 3700X is clear favorite, it almost sold like an entire lineup of Intel combined.
3800x doesn't offer much over a 3700x and 3600x offers nothing over a 3600, so it makes sense :)Based on all tests I saw on the internet the the 3900X, 3700X and 3600 were the recommended CPUs in the ine-up. 3600X and 3800X are seen as obsolete by most testers I follow.
Ryzen balanced is working for me now, idling under 2ghz and under 1v.
To get it to work I had to do the following: 1 Reset power profiles as detailed in post. 2 Disable/unplug ethernet adapter 3 Uninstall amd chipset drivers 4 Goto device manager and uninstall AMD devices in system devices drop down , make sure to tick delete drivers. 5 Reboot and make sure in device manager that no AMD devices exist in system devices. 6 Reinstall AMD chipset drivers. 7 Goto power, ryzen balanced should be checked. Set minimum processor state to 5%.
That should be it, you shouldn't even need to reboot. Obviously reconnect your Internet connection.
Now as I mentioned I don't know if this negates the profiles low latency core switching but it works for me and I haven't noticed any drop in performance. In fact cpuz, cinebench etc benchmark faster, especially single core. My system is just as responsive and importantly I can now idle at reasonable frequency, voltages and temperature.
Played a couple of hours of games with no issues at all.
Until more mature bios updates and chipset drivers etc release I'll definitely be sticking to this.
Lowering the minimum power state percentage seems to fix the voltage issue for me. Now it goes under 1v during idle. it still occasional spikes up to 1.3-4 for a second, but goes back to normal quickly.Found this post about how this person fixed their idle speeds/power usage.
Found this post about how this person fixed their idle speeds/power usage.
Another reason to take this issue seriously is that I have been told that the importance of this issue is only increasing over time. With newer CPUs and with better timer coalescing the frenetic interrupts are likely to consume a greater percentage of total compute power. -- Bruce Dawson, 2013.
God damn, that 50/50 split from exactly a year ago compared to now.Mindfactory.de sales numbers (units) of CPUs July 2019:
A 79/21 split in favor of AMD!
Which one specifically? I have seen MSi B450 Tomahawk boards running Ryzen 3000 CPUs just fine. IIRC Hardware Unboxed is even testing on that very motherboard ...B450 boards still having issues with Ryzen 3000 processors. Lameeee fix it all already