This almost tripped me up, so thought I'd mention it - the TUF Gaming X570-Plus does not come with wifi or bluetooth. For that, you'd need the TUF Gaming X570-Plus (WI-FI) edition of the board. Official run-down of the differences here.
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AMD Ryzen 3000 and Radeon RX 5700 - Review Thread
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This almost tripped me up, so thought I'd mention it - the TUF Gaming X570-Plus does not come with wifi or bluetooth. For that, you'd need the TUF Gaming X570-Plus (WI-FI) edition of the board. Official run-down of the differences here.
Can confirm that AC Odyssey is actually running at lower FPS with my 3900x than my old 4770k at 1440p. Its infinitely smoother though, no jittering at all whereas with the 4770k it happened quite a bit, especially in the big cities.
Ah sorry, I thought all TUF Gaming X570-Plus were created equal. For what it's worth, there were only one SKU available on newegg when it came out.
This is why FPS can be misleading metric.
Especially true with some Ubisoft games, frame times scale will with threads (not cores, you'll want hyperthreading) , but fps does not.
That's fair. :) I'm not sure how prevalent the non-Wi-Fi version is relative to Wi-Fi, but I had the fright of my life when I realised there were two similar versions and that Wi-Fi wasn't standard across the range. It's sad to see that the naming system for motherboards hasn't got any better in the 6 years since I last built a system, because it really is needlessly confusing.
Another custom 5700XT review:
I hate this recent way of introducing AIB cards when they send the cards for reviews but conveniently forget to send the price of the card in the same package.
Depending on the price it may be "meh" or not, hard to tell.
At least the Pulse is good enough and at a decent price.
That is if you're in the US.
It's only listed on amazon.fr at 449€ (and 469 on another site) where I live and honestly at that price I'd rather downgrade a little to a 2060S and save 50€ in the process (+2 games).
No price on the others EU amazon
Early times though and the price might come down closer to 400-410€ as more sites get stock
That is if you're in the US.
It's only listed on amazon.fr at 449€ (and 469 on another site) where I live and honestly at that price I'd rather downgrade a little to a 2060S and save 50€ in the process (+2 games).
No price on the others EU amazon
Early times though and the price might come down closer to 400-410€ as more sites get stock
Yup, I'm eyeing the Pulse as well, as it seems to be the best bang for buck of the now announced cards. There's 2 stores in NL currently listing them, and the cheapest is at 489 Euro >.<
Hopefully more stores will be putting them up in the coming days and prices will normalise. I also kind of want to see more cards reviewed, so I can see if there is actually a better one at a decent pricepoint, but looks like they spread out the embargos all through the coming week or something.
Hopefully more stores will be putting them up in the coming days and prices will normalise. I also kind of want to see more cards reviewed, so I can see if there is actually a better one at a decent pricepoint, but looks like they spread out the embargos all through the coming week or something.
3900x back in stock at Amazon, if anyone was looking.
I think I'mma grab one right now because fuck it.
I think I'mma grab one right now because fuck it.
Speedstep/CnQ is not working for me and I am not finding any settings for PStates in the Bios (ASRock x470)
CPU is constantly on ~1.4v and not clocking down in idle. Tried resetting power modes, driver reinstall and everything. Not sure what to do... just wait for fixes?
CPU is constantly on ~1.4v and not clocking down in idle. Tried resetting power modes, driver reinstall and everything. Not sure what to do... just wait for fixes?
Is it overclocked? With the previous chips overclocking would keep the voltage steady, and the clock hovering between a narrow range. But it's still using much less power when idle.
It's set to Auto, but always clocked at 4,2 at least that's what CPUZ/HWINFO tells me.
Ryzen Master is reporting actual different numbers with the clock going up and down from ~1ghz to ~4,2ghz
If I turn on power saver mode it actually clocks down to 2.2ghz and all tools report the same values. It's so weird... what to trust?
3700X btw.
I think other programs are having a hard time reporting correct values. Ryzen Master should be correct afaik.
I was judging from a performance standpoint. A card of those dimensions should be able to deliver more performance, really. I am now waiting for tests of the MSI Evoke and MSI Mech/Armor and of course a Sapphire Nitro+.
It's a known issue, AMD are blaming certain programs that are causing it to ramp all the time like that.
I personally just leave it set to power saver mode in windows. If I'm running a game which is negatively affected by that mode, I swap it back while I'm playing said game.
With it set to Ryzen Balanced like they recommended I was going insane with the fans randomly ramping up. The only way you could minimise it was to make a really generous fan curve but even that doesn't entirely solve the issue.
MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT Evoke Reviews:
I think the Sapphire Pulse is the early winner here. A small $10 premium for a better cooler and quieter card.
Yep and it seems to hit similar OC speeds. Yhe max OC headroom is very close.
Debating between a 2060S and a 5700 XT Pulse for 50€ more.
On one hand the Pulse is faster and might get better with time as it's a new architecture, on the other the 2060S is cheaper, has RT HW (for what it's worth), and comes with two games (already have gamepass ultimate for a while so the 3 months of PC game pass don't do much for me)
Been flip-flopping between the two all day...
On one hand the Pulse is faster and might get better with time as it's a new architecture, on the other the 2060S is cheaper, has RT HW (for what it's worth), and comes with two games (already have gamepass ultimate for a while so the 3 months of PC game pass don't do much for me)
Been flip-flopping between the two all day...
Trust Ryzen Master over other tools for now. Afaik there is an "issue" with these new Ryzens changing between different states so fast that most tools can't properly detect those.
So those msi oc results actually look pretty good. I do think a 64 cu rdna chip will be Beasty.
Do we have any confirmation of if AMD can produce something with more than 64 cus without going to a dual GPU config?
Do we have any confirmation of if AMD can produce something with more than 64 cus without going to a dual GPU config?
Okay. Only the Vcore seems always stuck @ ~1.5 even in Ryzen Master.
As far as I'm aware there's two issues going on with the new Ryzen CPUs. There is some issues with reporting in some of the pieces of software, but this issue is entirely different to that. Background tasks seem to be causing the boost to keep being activated which in turn causes CPUs to be running at 1.4-1.5v and 50-60C when idle. The only real solution I've found to this is to use the low power mode in windows which allows the CPU to clock down to 0.95v/2.2ghz when idle. Obviously it means the CPU isn't quite as snappy on the desktop but it beats the fans going crazy because of how hot it was running when idle.
There's no apparent limit to WGP count in RDNA. The question of how it will actually scale is a different one though and we won't have an answer until we'll get more than one Navi GPU.
Ok, is it tied to bus size at all? Like what do we think we would see with a 384 bit bus? I doubt we will see 512 bit again.
Turing is also a basically new arch, fwiw.
Next gen consoles will have some form of hardware accelerated RT and Turing has variable rate shading support baked in so if you are trying to guess which card will age better long term I'm not sure if the smart money is on first gen Navi.
For the 3900X owners in here, how are your idle temps? I just installed a Noctua NH-U14S and I'm getting around 38-45c idle. Is this normal?
I haven't done any gaming yet, so I'm not sure how it's gonna hold up during load.
I haven't done any gaming yet, so I'm not sure how it's gonna hold up during load.
Not how I meant it (edit: badly worded on my part though now that i' reading my post).
If we're talking architectures, Turing is to me the more robust and forward looking of the two.
I was just saying that Navi being released just a little over a month now, AMD might get some more perf out of it through drivers updates in the near future (emphasis on "might").
And I don't keep GPUs very long.
I'm very likely to buy another GPU even before next gen consoles come out.
Kinda leaning towards the XT right now, it's faster and the pulse is a nicer model than the 2060S I could get for 50€ less, but honestly driver support seems somewhat dodgy as of now so I don't know.
Might stil get it and send it back if not satisfied with it.
My 3900x is at about ~33-36c idle with a kraken x62 in an h510 elite case (not great for cooling). Reading is from Ryzen Master.
I played about an hour of PUBG and my load temp hovers around 65c. I think that's pretty good for how low the fan speed is.
PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT Red Devil Reviews:
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Current, very early prices in Estonia suggest most custon AIB 5700 XT cards will be around 475 euros. For comparison, reference design cards are between 420-450 euros.
Is it safe to run DRAM voltage at 1.45v? I've got my ram stable at 3200mhz at 1.35 even though its rated for 3600. Won;t post with XMP however. Running a x570 asus mobo and 3700x. Debating if I should push for 3400 or 3600mhz on the ram.
For all you new Zen 2 owners out there, have you found any way to get core voltages down while running Corsair ICUE? Its basically locked at 1.45-1.48 when I have ICUE running, and back down to 0.9-1.1 when I close it. Kind of annoying cuz I like having my red/blue LED setup but can't run the damn program.
I've got a program running doing something similar, not sure which. I've just resigned myself to swapping between power saver power option when idle/browsing and then swap it back to ryzen balanced when gaming until there's a fix.
Holymoly I need to check if this is the cause for me. Never tried closing those programs.
Regarding ICUE - can't you uplaod a color scheme to the firmware so it runs this specific color setup as default? I think there is an option.
I also have iCUE running for my keyboard. I use Ryzen Balance power plan and configure the minimum processor state to 5%. It helped with my high idle voltage.
Not sure if i should wait for the new AMD Ryzen CPUs or grab a 3900x right now?
I have an i7 6700k
I have an i7 6700k
Grab the 3900X right now! I upgraded from the 6700K as well. Best upgrade I've done in a long time.