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American millennials' mental and physical health is on the decline — and they're on track to die faster than Gen X, a new report says
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I think I compounding problem to all of this is societal expectations. Boomers have drilled into Millennials' collective heads that there are certain life benchmarks and accomplishments that must be attained or you are a failure: a college degree, a good-paying and stable job, marriage, home ownership, 2.5 children, etc (usually each by certain age milestones).
Then we struggle to achieve these expectations, we are looked down upon and derided by Boomers, included our parents and other older authority figures that we look up to and respect. As much as some Millennials may act like it doesn't matter, having a looming feeling that you are failing at life can really degrade your mental well-being.
Of course, the aspect that Boomers fail to acknowledge is that they have actively and passively made it more difficult for Millennials to hit these benchmarks. It's like Boomers have tied weights around the waist of a generation and then they complain and deride Millennials for not running the race as fast as them.
Then we struggle to achieve these expectations, we are looked down upon and derided by Boomers, included our parents and other older authority figures that we look up to and respect. As much as some Millennials may act like it doesn't matter, having a looming feeling that you are failing at life can really degrade your mental well-being.
Of course, the aspect that Boomers fail to acknowledge is that they have actively and passively made it more difficult for Millennials to hit these benchmarks. It's like Boomers have tied weights around the waist of a generation and then they complain and deride Millennials for not running the race as fast as them.
Yeah i was doing good in therapy and I've dropped everything from lack of money, and im slowly going insane
Millennials are ruining dying slowly, new report finds
Experts say concepts of retirement, improving quality of life also being ruined by youngsters
Experts say concepts of retirement, improving quality of life also being ruined by youngsters
Not surprised. I dont take the greatest care of myself and I work myself into burn out after burn out. Even when I was a kid I had a weird feeling that I wouldnt live to see 30 and that was before all the trama. I turn 30 in 6 months so we'll see.
It's pretty bleak out there. Wife and I are very fortunate to have government jobs with pensions. Have a lot in student loans (lol law school) but they're all government loans so Income based repayment makes them manageable. Otherwise are both Union with good health insurance and job security/raises. We're basically living the boomer dream in millennial bodies (31/33 y/o) but I know it's not applicable for most people and honestly I don't have faith our pensions will even be there in 40 years but it helps lower the day to day stress.
Im fully prepared to work until I die which thankfully my profession allows well into old age.
Im fully prepared to work until I die which thankfully my profession allows well into old age.
Easy there Emet.
Maybe we should actually vote fore people to represent the things we'd like to see. Instead most just complain and don't do shit. It's easier to do that than the actual work. We see the fucking species coming to an end yet we keep walking towards the extinction without missing a beat. Plus motherfuckers need to get over being racist and worried about what the other person has or might get, but nah fuck that noise. I'll gladly kill myself if that black person don't get healthcare or better wages. Then you've got the moronic temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
It's time like these makes me wonder if societies or even democracy are worth preserving
Maybe its radical, but I believe the house is fundamentally too broken to not have it burned down to the ground
How would you apportion the improper cost of healthcare between for profit health insurers, for profit hospitals, for profit medical schools, drug manufacturers, malpractice insurance and lawsuits, etc?
What do you mean? We live in a world with proved out ways of financing healthcare and controlling its costs: look to examples of countries where universal healthcare (whether it be single payer or multi-payer) is a thing.
I'm from the UK but one thing I've realised is that this message is slowly getting through. So some older people's benefits are disappearing while today's teenagers may get a little extra help. Small steps at the moment but this may accelerate over time.
Which means there'll be no benefits for those millennials that make old age but the generation(s) after will get the benefits. Although their planet is likely to be in an even worse state so swings and roundabouts.
Which means there'll be no benefits for those millennials that make old age but the generation(s) after will get the benefits. Although their planet is likely to be in an even worse state so swings and roundabouts.
So the generation before Millenials are boomers right?
Does that mean....Millenials are...Doomers?
The amount of boomers who have told me that they paid $20-$30K for their homes while earning incomes of this amount annually is soul crushing.
Tell me about it. The house I grew up in was $90000 when they got it. I can't even buy a plot of land to put a tent on for that price.
Thank god! The things i'd do for a terminal disease to end me before the year is over are unlimited, but if i have to suffer this fucking existence longer, at least it won't be by that much.
I'm not sure things are any worse now than they were in the 60, 70's, 80's and 90's.
Mental health is more prevalent now because finally people are opening up and talking about it.
Considering my last job was *fulltime* in terms of my workhours yet I got no paid sick leave, no paid vacation time, when injured (thankfully not bad) at work they told me not to officially put the report in and said they would deal with it internally with them paying me for only 2 hours out of three days I missed, and at the end of the year the companies way of thanking us was inviting us to McDonalds at 6.45am before work. THEN YEAH its pretty hard and you tend to lose hope in work, there were other things but rather not full vent haha.
Or, just maybe - said technology and sedentary lifestyle is a means of escapism from the absolute crushing weight of economic entropy set in motion by previous generations.
I mean sure, if you're looking to place blame anywhere else but yourself. There are plenty of people who moderately enjoy the escapism of which that type of technology provides while still being economically successful and socially well adjusted.
Pennsylvania privatized Medicaid, which Medicaid was paying for my Medicare. Now I don't fucking know what that means for my Medicare, and now I'm stressed at the idea I will suddenly have money taken from my already and arguably limited amount of income I'm supposed to rely on, especially given there's been plenty of horror stories about Medicare and SSD/SSI and shit about fucking over people with disabilities.
Fuck all this shit. "Have the power of choice with your insurance" and "be in control of what you get", my FUCKING ass. Went to go through the process and they had extremely limited in who I can see or go depending on the insurance and if "they were under their system". Like, what kind of fucking choice is that if it limits you fucking further? It was already limited somewhat by the PA Access as it was, but it feels even more so now.
This whole thing is a scam and absolutely fucking deceitful.
So yeah. I'm literally tired of even trying to explain anymore why this shit matters when people who make the decisions just don't ultimately give a fuck about you. I'm absolutely not shocked about that report by any means.
Fuck all this shit. "Have the power of choice with your insurance" and "be in control of what you get", my FUCKING ass. Went to go through the process and they had extremely limited in who I can see or go depending on the insurance and if "they were under their system". Like, what kind of fucking choice is that if it limits you fucking further? It was already limited somewhat by the PA Access as it was, but it feels even more so now.
This whole thing is a scam and absolutely fucking deceitful.
So yeah. I'm literally tired of even trying to explain anymore why this shit matters when people who make the decisions just don't ultimately give a fuck about you. I'm absolutely not shocked about that report by any means.
Let me tell you all a story about my parents and how well their generation had it.
My Dad often tells the story about how he graduated from the University of Minnesota with 0 debt, a new truck, and a fishing boat. He did this while working part time at a warehouse during the night. That job paid him well above minimum wage (which of course had a LOT more buying power) as well as health insurance benefits. After college my parents both got jobs in their respective career fields basically immediately. They became middle class overnight, just how you are supposed to do it. These jobs provided all the benefits in the world including maternity leave. So, my parents had my sister and I, and then bought a 3,000sqft house on 5 acres of land in the suburbs. They were in their late 20's or maybe early 30's idk. The house was like 100k or something total. They invested their money in the usual 401k, Roth, and some other investments. By the time they were in their mid 50's, the house had appreciated to over a million dollars, and their investment portfolio had also grown massively. They had each spent 30+ years working at the SAME JOBS they started at. Having perfect job stability and building seniority over this time, both had huge salaries by the end. Both also had pensions. My dad accrued so much sick time he was able to retire, roll that money into a savings plan, and pay for healthcare for the family for a projected 10 years until they qualify for medicare. So my parents are 1. in their very early 60's 2. retired 3. unbelievably wealthy due to savings, pensions, house appreciation (they sold the house and downsized), and investments which has got to be massive (after all, the stock market has gone up exponentially during their lifetime) and 4. Soon to get social security added to this.
Basically, society worked the way it was supposed to for them. The perfect american story.
Imagine any of us, literally any of us, having this type of story. Graduating from college with no debt and a new car? Middle class jobs immediately out of college? Health insurance and maternity benefits allowing us to have a family in our 20's? Buying a massive house in the suburbs for a nominal price? Pension? Stock market stability? Retiring early? Social security???
Luckily this good fortune is not lost on them and my whole family are ardent Democrats and Bernie Sanders supporters. This is why the modern conservative party makes zero sense. They want to go back to the good old days... where people had the same opportunities and benefits that the progressives are proposing today. Fucking hello?? This whole thing makes zero sense.
My Dad often tells the story about how he graduated from the University of Minnesota with 0 debt, a new truck, and a fishing boat. He did this while working part time at a warehouse during the night. That job paid him well above minimum wage (which of course had a LOT more buying power) as well as health insurance benefits. After college my parents both got jobs in their respective career fields basically immediately. They became middle class overnight, just how you are supposed to do it. These jobs provided all the benefits in the world including maternity leave. So, my parents had my sister and I, and then bought a 3,000sqft house on 5 acres of land in the suburbs. They were in their late 20's or maybe early 30's idk. The house was like 100k or something total. They invested their money in the usual 401k, Roth, and some other investments. By the time they were in their mid 50's, the house had appreciated to over a million dollars, and their investment portfolio had also grown massively. They had each spent 30+ years working at the SAME JOBS they started at. Having perfect job stability and building seniority over this time, both had huge salaries by the end. Both also had pensions. My dad accrued so much sick time he was able to retire, roll that money into a savings plan, and pay for healthcare for the family for a projected 10 years until they qualify for medicare. So my parents are 1. in their very early 60's 2. retired 3. unbelievably wealthy due to savings, pensions, house appreciation (they sold the house and downsized), and investments which has got to be massive (after all, the stock market has gone up exponentially during their lifetime) and 4. Soon to get social security added to this.
Basically, society worked the way it was supposed to for them. The perfect american story.
Imagine any of us, literally any of us, having this type of story. Graduating from college with no debt and a new car? Middle class jobs immediately out of college? Health insurance and maternity benefits allowing us to have a family in our 20's? Buying a massive house in the suburbs for a nominal price? Pension? Stock market stability? Retiring early? Social security???
Luckily this good fortune is not lost on them and my whole family are ardent Democrats and Bernie Sanders supporters. This is why the modern conservative party makes zero sense. They want to go back to the good old days... where people had the same opportunities and benefits that the progressives are proposing today. Fucking hello?? This whole thing makes zero sense.
Obviously there are anecdotes, but putting your head in the sand just because a few people are "successful" when an entire generation is facing wealth inequality on a massive scale is really naive and screams of "Got Mine" syndrome. I know there are people on this forum that constantly cape for billionaires and whatnot, but the "blame" doesn't go to people who actively work their hardest just to survive and can still barely do that. Imagine working full-time with multiple college degrees and still having to choose whether or not you can afford basic groceries that paycheck, all while the rich are deciding between their 11th or 12th yacht.
I have already accepted I will work until I die unless society somehow drastically changes. Retirement will not exist for me.