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An official ad in a kids magazine suggests using FIFA points to buy packs to play the game
- Thread starter Typhoon20
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It's abhorrent that this has gone on for as long as it has but it's just "accepted" as part of gaming now.
Sooner it's classed as gambling the better.
Sooner it's classed as gambling the better.
It's scummy but not exclusive to FIFA or this ad. Advertising campaigns have been shoving micro transactions, season passes, battle passes, etc., down people's throats for years.
Disgusting. I don't care about basically anything, but inducing childs into gambling adiction... I think that is the only thing that puts me on my nerve.
That fucking illness destroys not only individuals lifes but whole families, some cases are worse than drug addiction.
I hope that the European Comission strictly bans this shit for advertisong (same as alcohol and cigarettes), including the advertising in football teams shirts.
Disgusting.
That fucking illness destroys not only individuals lifes but whole families, some cases are worse than drug addiction.
I hope that the European Comission strictly bans this shit for advertisong (same as alcohol and cigarettes), including the advertising in football teams shirts.
Disgusting.
I hate mtx so so much, but the way this is advertised is not much different that collecting cards when I was younger, just digital.
what's the difference?
EDIT: I mean the whole gambling aspect, when I was young I collected football cards. I wouldn't say that was gambling. What is the difference here?
what's the difference?
EDIT: I mean the whole gambling aspect, when I was young I collected football cards. I wouldn't say that was gambling. What is the difference here?
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A battle pass or MTX (where you know what you're getting) isn't quite the same as encouraging kids to basically gamble on a game (which is what FUT is).
For the people asking it's Smyths.
I agree. What I was getting at is that battle passes and season passes have been normalized and an accepted part of gaming and marketing, which paved the way for this garbage to now be acceptable.
EA truly are the scum of the Earth in the video game industry. Hopefully this magazine will make its way to governments around the world to be used to heavily regularize loot boxes.
Went through the comments and apparently its Smyths from the UK where the ad is in.
I can't believe I'm saying this but I really hope some regulatory bodies crack down on this industry. It's out of control and proves time and time again that it will not self-regulate.
Can you trade the cards in FIFA when you earn them? Sell them or exchange with someone? Do the cards move forward to the next game? Never played a FIFA game since FIFA 2000.
This has been going on for longer than the battle passes. Like way longer. First FUT was in Fifa '09. It blew up by Fifa 12 and has been growing ever since.
I don't really know if you can trade but you can sell them I think for in game points I think.
may least I'm sure that's how it used to work and I'm sure that's how they operated the scams
It really is. Predatory gambling-like practices that involve incredible grinding or MTX are common in multiplayer games. Some games I boot up and it feels like the games are designed to be as addictive as possible.
It's even worse in the mobile market.
Might be very slightly different then, Smyths is a toy store so this would be a catalogue showing items they sell. Not a kids magazine as such.
Still, scummy move - and I should know as my kid is crazy into FUT and I'm constantly asked to buy him points.
Shut this shit down and go after them all.
Corporate greed needs in check. It's completely out of control
Corporate greed needs in check. It's completely out of control
Football has an utterly insidious relationship with gambling as it is. Might as well get the kids going early so they can be browsing the in-play markets like a pretend stock broker or living "The Ladbrokes Life" by the time they're 17.
Worth noting, if you're in the UK, that the government is currently taking thoughts and opinions on loot boxes through a questionnaire. There are two versions, one for gamers, and one for game developers, to give their opinions and experiences about loot boxes (positive or negative, though... come on).
Here's the link to the questionnaire.
I should run a quick forum search to see if there's a thread on this yet...
Here's the link to the questionnaire.
I should run a quick forum search to see if there's a thread on this yet...
You can't trade them but you can sell them in an auction house equivalent. They do not carry forward to the next game, when a new FIFA comes out basically everything you've earned in the previous one is completely gone. I believe they give you rewards based on how much you did in the previous game but you don't get any of the cards you already had.
Yes, but you can also use in-game FIFA coins that you earn for winning matches, tournaments, etc. However, the value of a FIFA coin is much, much lower than a FIFA point, and it takes much longer to accumulate coins up to the FIFA points equivalent, to the point where the only viable way of purchasing the packs with the highest chances (still 0.01% for the top players) is buy purchasing FIFA points.
What's even more stupid is that, for every new game release, all those cards you purchased do not transfer, so you start from scratch! And the cycle repeats.
I was addicted in 2016, but managed to stop buying packs in 2017 before quitting FUT in 2018. I consider myself really fortunate, because this mode is designed to be addictive. When you're on a winning streak, they'll put you on a losing streak and make you desperate to buy better players.
As a gacha player, it's always crazy to me to think that FIFA players have a wipe every year.
As a person who loves videogames, it's crazy to me to think that people play gachas
But i also love videogames and last time i checked, gachas are part of it :thinkingemoji:
Not sure about football cards, but I remember being able to send off for specific stickers to complete sticker albums when I was younger, and not too high a price. That's a massive difference right there.
Loot boxes. You buy FIFA Points with real money, then exchange them for packs which includes players, kits, consumables etc you can then use to make a team.
Yeah I think eventually that'll change but the way the game is set up, they never go beyond 99 rated and even this year when Ronaldo and Messi are nearing the end of their careers they're still low 90s. A few upgrades doesn't leave them much room.
FIFA is all about the special promos at this point. The team of the week is a joke after a month.
Yes you can trade them. No they're not usable in the next game. Same as football stickers in that regard.
Yeah i think they'll probably change that one day. Maybe you'll keep your players, but all will be about taking care of your players each week, so they can play better etc... But i don't really see a pushback coming from the FIFA players, regarding the wipe, which is the craziest part to me.
Uk people should look at this thread and do the gov survey
www.resetera.com
UK Government has released an official "call for evidence" with regards to "loot boxes in video games" News
The UK Government has released an official "call for evidence" with regards to "loot boxes in video games": https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/loot-boxes-in-video-games-call-for-evidence
www.resetera.com
No difference between this any other collectible product, such as Pokémon cards, telling kids they need to "collect them all."
At the very least (and this is the absolute minimum), what is needed is a law stating that companies must list the exact probability rates of every item obtainable in a loot boxes.
Haven't played FUT in years, but I recall EA listing player cards with 85+ ratings having a probability rate of "<1%". People are stupid and read this as "1%", when in reality the chances are closer to 0.01%.
People aren't completely stupid, though. If they see the chance of getting Messi in a pack is exactly 0.001%, they might actually stop buying packs.
Haven't played FUT in years, but I recall EA listing player cards with 85+ ratings having a probability rate of "<1%". People are stupid and read this as "1%", when in reality the chances are closer to 0.01%.
People aren't completely stupid, though. If they see the chance of getting Messi in a pack is exactly 0.001%, they might actually stop buying packs.
