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Analyst: Xbox One global sales at 41 million; digital sale ratio far higher on Xbox One than on other platforms
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It was reported that the X was a massive success for them. I belive it even sold more than the Pro in 2018.
According to Wikipedia, last official numbers are 84m for X360, more than 83.8m for PS3. Since then, it's vastly assumed PS3 overtook the X360, but nobody knows for sure.
Hard to discuss the digital share thing without more clarity on what Zhuge meant. Like was that US only(presumably)? Also, is he comparing digital shares on the same titles, or talking about the overall digital to physical purchase ratio on each platform.
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So, about ~50M LTD? They have something to salvage for next gen. They just have to capitalize.
The digital ratio definitely makes sense considering how much work MS has put into that portion of their market. The bulk of Xbox users are also "core" Xbox folk.
The digital ratio definitely makes sense considering how much work MS has put into that portion of their market. The bulk of Xbox users are also "core" Xbox folk.
I don't think PS4 will hit 120 million too.
Both consoles will tank in 2020.
This year I think Xbox one will sell 4.5 million and PS4 14 million.
With much lucky PS4 can hit 120 million but it will not be easy too.
At that point Xbox One was already in a very rough state (it got better since then so i'd say that move didn't hurt hardware sales much), but the original goal was to sell 200 mln units, probably because Don Mattrick thought cloud gaming was going to be a thing this gen already
https://windowsreport.com/xbox-one-sales-target/
Its going to be very close whether its thi year or next. I'm guessing its gonna be December 2019, they surpass it just before the year ends.
That's pretty good. I think MS have changed in direction overall where it's all about services, retention of players that I'm not really surprised it has a far higher digital ratio. MS have done a great job at focusing on hardcore players and despite being a smaller audience, they're much more active overall. Just heading into next generation for example, Xbox players can feel so much more confident of their digital purchases carrying forward to next generation due to backwards compatibility which can't really be said for competition. Gamepass is also excellent, some of their games are online focused which helps increase the ratio.
40M sold PR for 360 went out on April 23rd 2010
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/worldwide-xbox-360-sales-hit-40m
Calculating the days between dates going from 360 launch to 4/23/2010, is 1613 days
We don't have an exact date for when XB1 hit 40M but going from launch to today is 1889 days. So a gulf of 276 days. So ball park about 9 months slower in sales than the 360.
Not bad all things considered. Obviously the kinect won't be coming to give them a 20 million shot in the arm this time around but that's a good thing if you ask me.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/worldwide-xbox-360-sales-hit-40m
Calculating the days between dates going from 360 launch to 4/23/2010, is 1613 days
We don't have an exact date for when XB1 hit 40M but going from launch to today is 1889 days. So a gulf of 276 days. So ball park about 9 months slower in sales than the 360.
Not bad all things considered. Obviously the kinect won't be coming to give them a 20 million shot in the arm this time around but that's a good thing if you ask me.
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Where exactly in Europe? Since here is the same price digitally and physically. If you don't catch some deal, but that really does not happened until few months after release.
EDIT: Ohh, Belgium, sorry about not looking first.
So when PS4 was around 40 million users, was it at a similar digital ratio as Xbox is now?
It's really weird.. but I'm pretty much all digital (got 3 retail games) with my Xbox.. though that's most definately thanks to Gamepass. So while buying in to their echosystem via gamepass I havnt actually bought something from their store. With that said, gamepass is an amazing service and if it's still around in present form during next gen.. I could see myself get on the Xbox system farely early (depending the games ofc)
Is this the first number of sales we've seen for Xbox in quite some time?
Is this the first number of sales we've seen for Xbox in quite some time?
41 million is low. Even sony completly fucking up with the ps3 did better. Unless sony really screw up i expect another 2:1 sales gap or close to it next gen.
The difference between Switch and XB1 are less than 7m atm.
Even if 2019 is flat for both Switch and XB1(which it wont, since Switch will have growth, and XB1 will decline due to the incoming next gen) the gap would be closed by december 2019.
I see, thank you!
Al these numbers do is make me want specific breakdowns now.
Yeah, some of us have been saying this might be the biggest news of this generation. The Switch might pass it in sales before the next gen Xbox launches.
It seems like it, lol
This now makes me think the lower numbers the past few years from folks in the know were more accurate than some believed.
They have done so much to turn the brand around, they have a good blueprint for next gen. And like many have said, the goal has to be the rest of the world. Japan alone will be a huuuge hurdle for them.
Btw. NPD owns EEDAR i think.
https://www./threads/eedar-releases...ne-at-20-million-as-of-december-2015.1206788/
No, because digital buying in general has grown since then.
If you were to take the digital ratio of just the first 41 million PS4 owners today, it would be closer to the Xbox ratio (though I think Xbox would still be higher).
Well yeah, I haven't purchased a physical game since what....COD Black Ops One? Once Microsoft went digital I never looked back. Who wants to go to the store? Have empty boxes somewhere.
If I had a physical box for every Xbox and PS4 game I purchased digitally they would be taking up space in my place. There is no reason to have all that useless plastic in my house.
If I had a physical box for every Xbox and PS4 game I purchased digitally they would be taking up space in my place. There is no reason to have all that useless plastic in my house.
the thing is, most of the stuff, outside of console price deals, is more forward facing to *current* owners than prospective owners
Those aren't 50 million unique users. Lots of double and some triple dips.
PS3 and Xbox One had different starting points. PS2 reached 150 million while Xbox 360 sold 85 million units. Both PS3 and XBO were disappointments, though.
We'll have to wait till the end of the generation before we can judge how much the market has shrunk or grown. I don't think the PS4/Switch/XBO/WiiU combo will be that far off from the 7th gen numbers tbh. It's the dedicated handheld market that has been affected the most.
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If i had a choice I will almost always choose physical over digital simply because I like the collecting part of it, During the time Ive had my Switch and PS4 i've had GCU so Physical carts were always cheaper as well. Switch's limited storage capacity also helped that decision in that regard. In terms of my PS4 I use it mainly for single player games so the need to constantly swap games isn't that apparent since I like to play one game at a time when it comes to these massive single player experiences.
For my Xbox I got it as a gift after my GCU expired so I havent had any impulse buys in terms of physical games, also its mostly a multiplayer machine for me since thats where most of my friends are on so hot swapping between Fortnite, Black Ops, and Rainbow Six has been extremely convenient. Also in general Xbox's digital ecosystem is leagues ahead of the competition, GamePass alone makes all digital on the system an easy choice.
tldr:
- I like collecting physical
- Switch Storage space is an issue
- PS4 mostly for single player games
- XBox hot swapping between multiplayer games with friends/better digital ecosystem.
Edit: I would like to add that I have several digital games on my Switch and PS4 but about 90% of it is physical, only Xbox is fully digital at this point in time.
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It should be 10-11m. Switch was on 22.86m in September. Their holiday sales figures should have them at just over 30m.
When Kinect launched? They had 40 millions in 2010 and ended 2013 with 85 millions.
=O
This + would be nice a chart showing 360 in the same time frame
That hw number seems kinda low , Great on their service offering thats why the digital ratio is high.
It would seem to me that one the biggest blows to Xbox is that all the gains they made in Europe from Xbox to 360 were diminished significantly going from 360 to XB1.
Add to that, they didn't have a gimmick like the Kinect to give it a second wind.
MS has to go conventional next gen: a great at a compelling price point with consistent exclusive and diverse content.
SP has to be a major focus if they want to gain in Europe, from what I understand.
Add to that, they didn't have a gimmick like the Kinect to give it a second wind.
MS has to go conventional next gen: a great at a compelling price point with consistent exclusive and diverse content.
SP has to be a major focus if they want to gain in Europe, from what I understand.
They've been among the first to push digital distribution and it pays off for them. Hardly surprising.
That's true.My point was that MS/Xbox can count on those users to stay in their ecosystem next gen as well.I just don't see space/new user base for expansion next gen for Xbox.
It is though. They said in December that Xbox had just crossed 40 million. We know they sold 1 million in December so hence 41 million like xhuge just told us
I think people will be surprised when they realize what consoles the Xbox One has already outsold...
N64
GameCube
OG Xbox
Sega Genesis
Sega Saturn
Sega Dreamcast
Sega Master System
The Xbox One has a real shot to pass the Super Nintendo... which would mean the Xbox One will of sold better than every Sega console ever released, and only less than two Nintendo consoles (NES/Wii).
It's not as big of a failure as people make the Xbox One out to be.
Kinect and the S model gave the 360 a huge boost. The Xbox One has (kind of) kept up until now launch aligned, but the 360 is about leave it in the dust.
Are you claiming to have any inside knowledge or something?!
Also this shows how much the ROTW outside the US matters.
The PS4, Switch, and Xbone were all basically neck-and-neck throughout 2018 in the US (relatively), but both the PS4 and the Switch are both close to selling 20 million while the Xbox is only at about 6 mil within the same timeframe. I expect Microsoft to be more aggressive outside the US going into next gen. They absolutely need to.
Zhuge told us the Xbox was at 36 million this time last year. Not sure where that 45m number came from.
The PS4, Switch, and Xbone were all basically neck-and-neck throughout 2018 in the US (relatively), but both the PS4 and the Switch are both close to selling 20 million while the Xbox is only at about 6 mil within the same timeframe. I expect Microsoft to be more aggressive outside the US going into next gen. They absolutely need to.
Zhuge told us the Xbox was at 36 million this time last year. Not sure where that 45m number came from.
He's looking at npds though. So that's NA only for everyone, right?
So only 200k in the rest of the world in December?
Huh?
Just to clarify, the first part of the statement in the OP is talking about US sales data.
That site has 43.2m as of December 29th though? So you're clearly misattributing the number. You can check for yourself. It's on the front page.
Chartz isn't quoted here because the data is unreliable.
That site has 43.2m as of December 29th though? So you're clearly misattributing the number. You can check for yourself. It's on the front page.
Chartz isn't quoted here because the data is unreliable.
So by knowing the software sales ratio are always leaning towards PS4, do third parties care that much considering Xbox is pulling in a lot of digital sales?
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