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Analyzing Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - A Numbers Breakdown (Final Update: June 11th, 2019)

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I had some time to kill recently and I thought it would be fun to take a numbers dive into the Xbox One Backwards Compatibility Program. I'm a big fan of the program and I have been using it frequently throughout the years and completed many games I had missed for various reasons. So lets take a look at the numbers.

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Total Number of BC Titles

575 Xbox 360 Titles
2103 Xbox 360 Titles Total (27.34%)
1900 Xbox 360 Titles Total Excluding Kinect and Peripheral Based Games (30.26%)

41 Original Xbox Titles
1047 Original Xbox Titles Total (3.92%)

The current tally of Backwards Compatible titles on Xbox One stands at 616 titles, 575 Xbox 360 and 41 Original Xbox. According to Wikipedia 2100 games have been released on Xbox 360, so that makes about 27.3% of the total library available on Xbox One. Since all accessoires and peripherals from Xbox 360 era do not work on Xbox One, its fair to exclude these titles from the total list. This includes all Kinect Titles, Rock Band, Guitar Hero, uDraw, Tony Hawk, DJ Hero, Scene it, Lips etc. This brings the total number to roughly 1900 titles. This brings the total perentage of BC titles to about 30.3%, not bad.

Original Xbox is off course totally different. Licensing is way more complicated and making games work properly in the emulator is presumably more difficult as well. 41 Original Xbox Titles have been released since its inception in October 2017, a total of 3.92% of the total 1047 games released on Xbox.
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Retail vs Xbox Live Arcade

Xbox 360 launched the concept of Xbox Live Arcade games, smaller, cheaper and generally more simpeler games. These took off once some of the games became really popular like Shadow Complex, Mark of the Ninja, Peggle, Limbo etc. In the end XBLA games formed a good part of the Xbox 360 library and there has been some debate whether or not Microsoft prioritised XBLA games over retail games for BC, because these would obviously take less time and work to bring over because of the complexity of the games. I've gathered some numbers to determine if this is true or not.

575 Xbox 360 Backwards Compatible Games
305 Xbox Live Arcade Games (53.04%)
270 Retail Games (46.96%)

Based on these numbers you could say there is a slighty higher focus towards XBLA games, especially so in the earlier years of BC. In 2018 for instance, there have only been 11 XBLA games added compared to 94 retail games. Lets take a look at a breakdown for each year:

2015 = 121 games released
33 Retail (27.27%)
88 XBLA (72.73%)

2016 = 188 games released
63 Retail (33.51%)
125 XBLA games (66.49%)

2017 = 149 games released
67 Retail (44.97%)
82 XBLA (55.03%)

2018 = 105 games released
94 Retail (89.52%)
11 XBLA (10.48%)

2019 = 45 games released (Up until June 11)
33 Retail (73.33%)
12 XBLA (26.67%)

As you can see there is a rather interesting development to be seen. There has ben a major shift to retail games this year, whereas XBLA games were the major focus point in the first two years of BC especially. Each year the percentage of retail games compared to XBLA games has gone up. But how does it stack up to the total library?

2103 Xbox 360 games released
795 XBLA released (38.36% is BC)
1308 Retail released (20.64% is BC)

Roughly 38.4% of the total XBLA library is now playable through BC, considerably higher compared to the 20.6% of retail library. This is off course due in part by the many sports titles and peripheral based games like Guitar Hero, Rock Band, DDR, Sing It etc which can not be released on BC. If you exclude these titles the percentage is likely to increase to around 23%, still lagging far behind XBLA. So what is the conclusion than? In the earlier years of BC the XBLA games were definitely prioritised over retail games, probably because these were easier to port compared to the more complex retail games. In the following years and especially this year the shift has turned towards retail games, likely due to the fact the emulator is finetuned and can now process most retail titles allowing for more retail games to be added.

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Games Released By Year

2015 (From Mid-November Launch) = 121
2016 = 188
2017 = 149
2018 = 105
2019 = 45 (Up until June 11)

January = 50 (Average 12)
February = 32 (Average 8)
March = 36 (Average 12)
April = 55 (Average 14)
May = 51 (Average 13)
June = 52 (Average 13)
July = 37 (Average 12)
August = 28 (Average 9)
September = 38 (Average 13)
October = 49 (Average 16)
November = 36 (Average 12)
December = 33 (Average 8)

The BC program was released to the general public on November 12, 2015 with an initial list of 104 games. 17 were added later that December bringing the total to 121 for 2015. The following year was also the biggest year for BC with an added 188 titles, an average 15 games each month. 2017 saw another 149 new games added, average 12 games each month. In 2018 we saw 105 new games added, an average 9 games every month. As more titles get added the number of titles left will obviously shrink, leaving games with more complicated architectures and licensing issues. The output for the coming years will probably continue to decrease as a result of this.

If we break this down by month, April and October look to be the months with the most releases on average. February, August and December seem to be the least active.
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Top 20 Most Requested Titles By November 2015

Call of Duty: Black Ops II: 109,686 Votes
Red Dead Redemption: 100,358 Votes
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - 97,844 Votes
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 87,272 Votes
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - 63,453 Votes
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - 57,582 Votes
Call of Duty: World at War - 54,523 Votes
Mass Effect 3 - 53,801 Votes
Fallout: New Vegas - 51,534 Votes
Left 4 Dead 2 - 49,367 Votes
Grand Theft Auto IV - 47,431 Votes
Batman: Arkham City - 45,669 Votes
Mass Effect 2 - 45,464 Votes
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - 38,216 Votes
Batman: Arkham Asylum - 32,176 Votes
Battlefield 3 - 31,469 Votes
Portal 2 - 30,034 Votes
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings - 29,713 Votes
Fable III - 29,709 Votes
Assassin's Creed III - 29,632 Votes

https://www.windowscentral.com/here-are-most-requested-xbox-360-games-not-currently-listed-xbox-one-backwards-compatiblity

When the BC program was announced at E3 2015, Microsoft introduced a website where the community could vote for the titles they wanted added the most. This website has since been taken down, so there is no recent tally of what titles are most requested. The latest available list I could find dated back from November 2015. Of this top 20, 17 titles have since been added to BC, with the remaining 3 having re-released on Xbox One.
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Metacritic Score of 90 Or Higher

I thought it would be fun to see how many titles rated 90 or higher on Xbox 360 on Metacritic are BC on Xbox One. A total of 53 games on Xbox 360 have an average review score of 90 or higher. 36 of these titles are currently BC. Of the remaining 17 games, 10 are either re-released/remastered or peripheral based like Guitar Hero and Rock Band. The remaining 7 games are all sports games and Forza Motorsport games which require to much licensing to be able to become BC. So that means all (BC-able) 53 Xbox 360 games that are rated 90 or higher are playable on Xbox One.
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Franchises Fully Playable On Xbox One With BC

Assassins Creed
Banjo
Battlestations
Bioshock
Call of Duty *(excluding Call of Duty Classic and OG Xbox games)
Crackdown
Crysis
Dead Space
Dragon Age
Fable
Far Cry
Gears of War
Halo
Just Cause
Left 4 Dead
Lost Planet
Portal
Mass Effect
Perfect Dark
Saints Row
Splinter Cell
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic
Star Wars Battlefront
The Darkness
Trials

The above 25 franchises are fully playable on Xbox One, either through BC and/or re-released Xbox One ports.
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Xbox One (X) Benefits of Backwards Compatible Titles

By default all Xbox 360 games that are BC receive the following enhancements on a base Xbox One or S model:
  • Improved framerate stability
  • Games utilizing a dynamic resolution will hit their max resolution more often, or at all times
  • Forced V-sync
  • 4x the original resolution for original Xbox games
  • Variable refresh rate compatibility (when used with a compatible display)
Exclusive additional benefits for Xbox One X
Xbox One X adds additional benefits with original Xbox games, upping the resolution to 16x that of the original game, allowing for native 4K or 1920p resolutions.

There are also a handful of specific Xbox 360 games with Xbox One X enhancements. These require significant additional work but allow for native 4K resolutions, better texture filtering, smoother framerates and even added HDR. These are considered by many to be a unique feature of the Xbox One X and for some even system sellers. However these require a lot of testing, optimisation and approval from the original creatures. Currently there are only 39 titles supported:

Assassin's Creed
Banjo-Kazooie
Banjo-Tooie
Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts
Civilization Revolution
Crackdown
Darksiders
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Fable Anniversary
Fable 2
Fable 3
Fallout 3
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIII-2
Forza Horizon
Gears of War 2
Gears of War 3
Halo 3
Kameo Elements of Power
Left 4 Dead
Left 4 Dead 2
Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII
Mirror's Edge
Ninja Gaiden II
Perfect Dark
Perfect Dark Zero
Portal: Still Alive
Portal 2
Red Dead Redemption
Skate 3
Sonic Generations
Splinter Cell Double Agent
Splinter Cell Conviction
Splinter Cell Blacklist
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
The Orange Box
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Viva Pinata
Viva Pinata Trouble in Paradise

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Highest Number of BC Titles Released


From the 19 'biggest' publishers that released games through BC, Microsoft obviously has released the highest number of BC titles, 140 to be exact. Ubisoft are in second place with 51 titles, EA is third with 45 titles, SEGA fourth with 40 titles, and Capcom finishes the top 5 with 22 titles.
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Highest Percentage of Total Games Released That Are BC


From the 19 'biggest' publishers that released games through BC, SNK hold the highest percentage of games that are BC compared to total games released on Xbox 360, with 75%. In the case of Rockstar, of the remaining 3, 2 are re-released on Xbox One (LA Noire, GTA V), that leaves Max Payne 3 as the last Rockstar game not playable on Xbox One from the 360 era. Activision is the worst performer in this list, only 11% of its total 360 library is playable on Xbox One.
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Highest Percentage of Total Games Released (with exclusions)That Are BC


In the above table I have excluded all Kinect and other peripheral based games, as well as all numbered sports titles like NBA 2K, FIFA etc. This is off course a more fair comparison since all of those titles will not be able to be added to BC. This improves the percentage significantly for publishers like 2K and EA.
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Notable Publishers Who Have Not Released A Game On BC


BigBen Interactive
City Interactive
Koch Media
Midway Games
Nordic Games
Sierra Entertainment
Southpeak Games

All of the above publishers have not yet released a game on BC.
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Biggest Franchises Missing From BC


Armored Core
Dead or Alive
Dragon Ball
Dynasty Warriors
F.E.A.R.
Forza Motorsport *(excluding Forza Horizon)
Godfather
Harry Potter
Lord of the Rings
Mortal Kombat
Need for Speed
Ninety-Nine Nights
Project Gotham Racing
Ridge Racer
Serious Sam
Spider Man
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Test Drive
Tony Hawk Pro Skater
Top Spin
Transformers
UFC
X-Men

All of the above franchises have no game available on the BC program. Some are pretty obvious why (movie and superhero tie-ins, sports licensing etc). Some are strange omissions like Mortal Kombat and Ridge Racer.
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Engagement. Do Xbox Gamers play BC games?


Do Xbox gamers actually play backwards compatible games on Xbox One? Well Microsoft have said numerous times that the engagement is there; people like playing old games. At least 50% of Xbox One owners have played a backwards compatible game. But does this mean 5 minutes or actually completing a game? We don't know this and will probably never will. All we can do is make an educated guess based on the figures we do have. The latest number we've got was on October 18, 2018. Gamers have played over 1 billion hours of Xbox 360 and Original Xbox games on Xbox One – and we think our new release is only going to keep that momentum going.

So what does that tell us? Well we know that there are between 35 and 40 million Xbox One consoles out there, probably closer to the latter figure after the X released. So if we break this down we can draw a few conclusions.

1 billion hours played
60 billion minutes played
35-40 million Xbox One sold

1500-1714 minutes played per Xbox One owner
25-28.5 hours played per Xbox One owner

Now if we break this down further to how many days BC started up until the October 18 figure we can determine how much is actually played.

1.4 - 1.6 minutes played per day (1066 days BC exists)
9.8 - 11.2 minutes played per week (152 weeks BC exists)
42.8 - 49 minutes played per month (35 months BC exists)

These 'guesstimates' tell us the average Xbox One owner plays about 10 minutes of BC every week, and roughly 45 minutes every month. Now if we keep in mind what Microsoft said that at least 50% of Xbox One owners have tried BC you can assume these numbers would have been double that.
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Does Backwards Compatibilty drive or improve sales?


Ah yes, the age old questions. Does BC really matter? Does it really improve sales? Is there a profit model? Do people really play old games? Well there is no clear answer to any of these questions. I do not have sales numbers, only Microsoft has these. Microsoft has told us many times people play a lot of BC games. They mentioned 50% of all Xbox One owners have tried at least 1 BC title, so the engagement is there. But is there a profit model, especially if you can just use the disc you already had?

One example I can recall is when Call of Duty Black Ops II hit BC on April 11, 2017. The following month the game charted at number 10 in the NPD Chart, 5 years after the game was released. Another example is Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 when it hit BC on August 28, 2018. The game was the 321 best selling title in July, yet it re-entered the top 10 at number 8 in August, having hit BC only a few days of tracking that month. Maybe other major releases have had a similar impact like Red Dead Redemption on July 7, 2016 or Modern Warfare 3 on June 19, 2018 and perhaps many others.
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That was it! Thanks for reading, hope you liked it. If you see any mistakes of have questions feel free to ask or tell me.
 
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WillySJ3

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Wow, great work, you really had a lot of free time.


Games Released By Year

2015 (From Mid-November Launch) = 121
2016 = 188
2017 = 149
2018 = 77 (If trend continues full year about 115)
This surprise me, I thought that last year was the biggest for the BC program.
 
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Whoa, it's going to take some time for me to process all of that. Thanks for the effort, in any case.
 

Jade1962

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Excellent thread. Hoping all games this gen will be instantly backwards compatible.
 

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Resident Evil is another notable franchise missing from BC. CODE: Veronica X HD seems very likely, but I wouldn't bet on Operation Raccoon City. Everything else (RE0-6) has been supplanted by remasters.
 
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Wow, great work.

What would also be interesting is how many Back Compat Titles got enhanced? How many run at 4k on 1X? How many are on Xbox Gamepass?
 

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Impressive work here.

It's just a shame the games I'm really wanting at this point all seem to have licensed music holding them back. :(
 

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Surprised capcom is so high up with a lot of their BC titles just being left overs. Outside like SF4 and the Dead Rising games.
 

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I wonder what those percentages would look like if you removed annualized sports games (ie. I doubt many people are worried about porting all prior Madden FIFA and nhl games)
 
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Resident Evil is another notable franchise missing from BC. CODE: Veronica X HD seems very likely, but I wouldn't bet on Operation Raccoon City. Everything else (RE0-6) has been supplanted by remasters.
Thought about adding that, but like you mentioned most major RE game have been re-released on Xbox One, so save for a few titles most of the franchise is on Xbox One natively. That list is mostly for games that are not on Xbox One natively or on 360 BC.
 

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I worked on eight games for the system- three of those from Microsoft Game Studios and none are BC and will likely never become BC games. All because of licensing so I would expect any game with a significant license attached but the original publisher doesn't currently have anything to do with it to not appear as BC. There will be a few that manage it but by and large those games are only playable on their original systems. Unless we somehow get a blanket BC patch that plays any game without extra work.

I know I have replayed quite a few games via BC over the last two years. It's a great feature. Playing MW2 single player ATM.
 
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Wow great post MauroNL, thanks for breaking all that down for us.

MGS HD & Max Payne 3 feel like an inevitability now thanks!

Cool to see that Microsoft themselves have the most BC titles but they are still only about half way there!
 

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Very informative op.
Had no idea the list was so big. Hope they continue adding games. Condemned 2 would be nice. :)
 

JayWood2010

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Very good thread, and very interesting stuff.

Does BC improve sales? Its hard to say, but its an attractive program that I have used to play a few games I missed last generation. To me, I think its a factor in people buying it, though if its the sole reason, who knows.
 

goonergaz

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Good work, but like you say - does BC really matter? Well it hasn't helped MS close the gap on Sony from what we can tell so I'd say not really.

Don't forget Sony used to do the whole BC thing and decided to drop it after they looked into how much people used it.

I think it's a great thing to offer though...I've always backed BC and hope nextgen has it too.
 
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I wonder what those percentages would look like if you removed annualized sports games (ie. I doubt many people are worried about porting all prior Madden FIFA and nhl games)
That is listed in the second table (image). That is the total number of games minus annual sports and accessory based games.
I worked on eight games for the system- three of those from Microsoft Game Studios and none are BC and will likely never become BC games. All because of licensing so I would expect any game with a significant license attached but the original publisher doesn't currently have anything to do with it to not appear as BC. There will be a few that manage it but by and large those games are only playable on their original systems. Unless we somehow get a blanket BC patch that plays any game without extra work.

I know I have replayed quite a few games via BC over the last two years. It's a great feature. Playing MW2 single player ATM.
Those better not be Project Gotham Racing :(
 

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i bought an XB1S when VF5FS became backwards compatible. the program was literally a system seller for me. i have since upgraded to an X and sold my PS4.
 

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Amazing job. Obviously, I figured that MS Studios would have a bunch, but I'm surprised at how many 3rd Party pubs allowed games to be added. I'm especially surprised that Activision allowed so many COD titles, given the current state of the COD marketing agreement.
 

Ray Barata

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Very good thread, and very interesting stuff.

Does BC improve sales? Its hard to say, but its an attractive program that I have used to play a few games I missed last generation. To me, I think its a factor in people buying it, though if its the sole reason, who knows.
I'm not sure if it does, but I also think MS is doing the long game. BC will continue on into the next generation, and perhaps that's where they see value?
 

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"Some time to kill". You want to write my thesis paper? I could use someone with that much spare time and crunching through all that data!

Just kidding, but on a serious note: great effort. I really like the way MS is going with the BC and I would love to play some of these game on an Xbox One X. Unfortunately there is little more reason to buy one since I have a superbly well-performing gaming PC.
 

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Good work, but like you say - does BC really matter? Well it hasn't helped MS close the gap on Sony from what we can tell so I'd say not really.

Don't forget Sony used to do the whole BC thing and decided to drop it after they looked into how much people used it.

I think it's a great thing to offer though...I've always backed BC and hope nextgen has it too.
Well that's a very console wars way to look at it.

My 15 year old kid started playing and finished SSX 3 in 4k on our Xbox One X. Hell yes, it matters.
 

JayWood2010

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I'm not sure if it does, but I also think MS is doing the long game. BC will continue on into the next generation, and perhaps that's where they see value?
Im sure they will. I mean it really is a very attractive feature. Having OG XBOX, X360, XBO, and Scarlett games on one platform is pretty awesome.

I bought Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon on Xbox One through BC, and I wouldnt have ever got to try those games if it wasnt for BC.

Im also going to buy Conker's Bad Fur Day Live & Reloaded simply because its one of my all time favorites.
 

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Good work, but like you say - does BC really matter? Well it hasn't helped MS close the gap on Sony from what we can tell so I'd say not really.
Of course it matters, and we have no idea whether it helped close the gap (hell, we don't even know what the gap is). But the long term value of BC goes well beyond that. For instance, I'm finally at ease buying digital content from Microsoft, including their old games, because I now have confidece that they will do everything in their power to keep that content available, and playable on future platforms. I've already spent hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars on the Xbox Store content just because of that. On the other hand, I almost entirely pulled the brakes on buying digital content from PSN as a direct result of Sony's stance toward BC. Their loss.
 

ashtaar

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Great post a lot of great info, played through a few great games via bc
Saints row 2
Dead space
Burnout revenge
And a few others
 

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Good work, but like you say - does BC really matter? Well it hasn't helped MS close the gap on Sony from what we can tell so I'd say not really.

Don't forget Sony used to do the whole BC thing and decided to drop it after they looked into how much people used it.

I think it's a great thing to offer though...I've always backed BC and hope nextgen has it too.

Something doesn't have to outsell Sony to be a success and sales driver.
 

Nephtes

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Nice work! That's a pretty comprehensive list.

One point of contention though...
You list that Tecmo doesn't have any backwards compatible games?
I thought Ninja Gaiden was BC?
With enhancements right?

Or are we suggesting it wasn't published by Tecmo?
 

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When it comes to music licensing, I wish that MS could drop some wholly-owned tracks into titles that are proving to be problematic.
 

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Wow! Incredible stats, MauroNL! That's some good research you did.

I do wonder, for your section of Notable Publishers Who Have Not Released A Game On BC, would it be easier to update who owns those publishers now? Like, Koei and Tecmo have merged, Midway's games are mostly part of Warner Bros. now, etc.?
 

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Of course it matters, and we have no idea whether it helped close the gap (hell, we don't even know what the gap is). But the long term value of BC goes well beyond that. For instance, I'm finally at ease buying digital content from Microsoft, including their old games, because I now have confidece that they will do everything in their power to keep that content available, and playable on future platforms. I've already spent hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars on the Xbox Store content just because of that. On the other hand, I almost entirely pulled the brakes on buying digital content from PSN as a direct result of Sony's stance toward BC. Their loss.
Well yes, to you (and me) it does. I'm just saying in the bigger picture, outside of forums and in the business model - does it make a difference to the MS and Sony moving forward.
 

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Well yes, to you (and me) it does. I'm just saying in the bigger picture, outside of forums and in the business model - does it make a difference to the MS and Sony moving forward.
I'm not talking just about me, of course it matters to me. It matters to Microsoft, and the publishers as well, because they're making money as a direct result of that. It's not all about the install base, as you seem to suggest (and again, we don't even know what the install base is, but judging by all the people here who openly say that they bought their Xbox consoles primarily because of BC, we do know that it would be lower without BC).
 

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Good work, but like you say - does BC really matter? Well it hasn't helped MS close the gap on Sony from what we can tell so I'd say not really.

Don't forget Sony used to do the whole BC thing and decided to drop it after they looked into how much people used it.

I think it's a great thing to offer though...I've always backed BC and hope nextgen has it too.
If ‘beating Sony’ is your only level for ‘does it matter’ then, no it doesn’t matter.

But if we avoid the console wars crap and ask ‘does it matter to gamers’ then, hell yeah, it matters. BC games are selling. They’ve expanded the library of the platform massively. They matter.
 

Aktlys

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Feels like most of the important games have BC now and I have bought most of my favorites again on sales, also many games I have never played.

MS has done good work.
 

goonergaz

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I'm not talking just about me, of course it matters to me. It matters to Microsoft, and the publishers as well, because they're making money as a direct result of that. It's not all about the install base, as you seem to suggest (and again, we don't even know what the install base is, but judging by all the people here who openly say that they bought their Xbox consoles primarily because of BC, we do know that it would be lower without BC).
Yes, but how much difference and is it worth that effort? We are but a tiny spot in the landscape of gaming.
 

goonergaz

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If ‘beating Sony’ is your only level for ‘does it matter’ then, no it doesn’t matter.

But if we avoid the console wars crap and ask ‘does it matter to gamers’ then, hell yeah, it matters. BC games are selling. They’ve expanded the library of the platform massively. They matter.
It was a question in the OP

"Does Backwards Compatibilty drive or improve sales?

Ah yes, the age old questions. Does BC really matter? Does it really improve sales? Is there a profit model? Do people really play old games? Well there is no clear answer to any of these questions. I do not have sales numbers, only Microsoft has these. Microsoft has told us many times people play a lot of BC games. They mentioned 50% of all Xbox One owners have tried at least 1 BC title, so the engagement is there. But is there a profit model, especially if you can just use the disc you already had."

All I did was repeat it lol
 

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Great posts and thread MauroNL! BC is a fantastic feature that all Consoles should have by default at this point, Imo. The fact that we are still seeing systems release without it saddens me greatly. I hope this will change in the future, with the advent of standard X86 architecture.
 

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I don't think BC brings a lot of money. But it's good added value and that can play a role in moving hardware off shelves.

Personally I love it. Through BC I have played several games I missed last gen like Portal 1/2 among others. I am currently playing Dragon Age Origins for the first time.

Also If the next xbox is BC day one, I will buy it day one. I have been holding on purchasing an X because I don't have a 4k tv and I know the next xbox is not that far.
 
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ElNino

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Well that's a very console wars way to look at it.

My 15 year old kid started playing and finished SSX 3 in 4k on our Xbox One X. Hell yes, it matters.
These are the scenarios it really helps I think. My sons are both playing the original Crackdown now and are looking forward to Crackdown 3 because of it.
 

goonergaz

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These are the scenarios it really helps I think. My sons are both playing the original Crackdown now and are looking forward to Crackdown 3 because of it.
Yep, I insist on my kids playing the classics - in fact we have a games shed with all the consoles hooked up to a projector. BC is great and I really hope Sony go back to having it in PS5 and MS continue to push BC - RDR is amazing!
 

ShapeGSX

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Yes, but how much difference and is it worth that effort? We are but a tiny spot in the landscape of gaming.
Yeah. It's worth the effort.

It also adds value to Games With Gold. Who cares about whatever PS3 game is given away for free on PS+. I don't own a PS3 anymore. But 2 360 games a month that I can play on my Xbox One? Yes, please.
 

litebrite

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Some of ya'll are thinking very limited and narrow about the success of Xbox's BC program and how it constantly expands Xbox's catalog for the present and future and helps feed into other subscription services such as Game Pass and Xbox Live Gold.
 
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ShinUltramanJ

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All of the bc titles are enhanced by XBox X correct? I would think that helps sales of bc titles a great deal.