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Android |OT| I called the death of 3.5mm

Oct 25, 2017
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It's looks good but curved screen. :(

Yeah not a fan, but I'll have to see how bad it is. Curve on something like Note 9 didn't bother me, but if it's really deep like earlier Samsung curved displays it will suck. Curious where they are getting this panel from. Didn't think Samsung made a 90hz display.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah not a fan, but I'll have to see how bad it is. Curve on something like Note 9 didn't bother me, but if it's really deep like earlier Samsung curved displays it will suck. Curious where they are getting this panel from. Didn't think Samsung made a 90hz display.
Think ice universe says its samsung. Can’t wait for this tech to trickle down to the note line. Pencil on the iPad Pro is a difference vs ones without promotion screen.



https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...lready-put-out-some-pixel-3a-xls/#ap-lightbox
Lol some Best Buy already stocked up the pixel 3a on shelves.


Think the 3a will be a solid buy once they drop in price. $200 off in a few months i bet, which would be a good buy.
 
Jul 22, 2018
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Think ice universe says its samsung. Can’t wait for this tech to trickle down to the note line. Pencil on the iPad Pro is a difference vs ones without promotion screen.



https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...lready-put-out-some-pixel-3a-xls/#ap-lightbox
Lol some Best Buy already stocked up the pixel 3a on shelves.


Think the 3a will be a solid buy once they drop in price. $200 off in a few months i bet, which would be a good buy.
Lol. That puts it at $200. That's not going to happen.

You aren't going to see Pixel 3 level discounts on the 3a unless you are signing up for a new line at a carrier.

The 3a at 400 with 3+ years of updates, no bloat, best camera on the market, great battery life is going to sell on its own. Especially since it looks like it will be in Sprint, TMobile and Verizon.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Lol. That puts it at $200. That's not going to happen.

You aren't going to see Pixel 3 level discounts on the 3a unless you are signing up for a new line at a carrier.

The 3a at 400 with 3+ years of updates, no bloat, best camera on the market, great battery life is going to sell on its own. Especially since it looks like it will be in Sprint, TMobile and Verizon.
I do wonder. Google phones have no sex factor. And no one cares about camera that much outside of youtubers.

Hope it does well though.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Idaho
And no one cares about camera that much outside of youtubers.


... what? Loads of people care about camera quality in their phones because it's the only camera they have. Hell, my friend, who has never watched a tech video in her life, has wanted a Pixel phone for over a year exclusively because of its camera's reputation.
 
Oct 31, 2017
6,533
Greece
I said it in the Pixel 3a leak thread, 400$/€ for everything Pixel 3/3 XL with a SD670, headphone jack and no notch or pinholes for the front camera is a great offer, no matter how you put it. The 670 is miles ahead the 660, and lets not forget that early 2018 660 phones also started at 400, and it its only now that they are close to 200, after being in the market nearly 3 years. I honestly see the 3a as a well spent investment.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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... what? Loads of people care about camera quality in their phones because it's the only camera they have. Hell, my friend, who has never watched a tech video in her life, has wanted a Pixel phone for over a year exclusively because of its camera's reputation.
Dude. Your average Joe doesn't care. I've been on Facebook before and oh god man I wish ppl cared! Would be nice!

As long as they can slap on some ugly filters. It's all the same.
 
Jul 22, 2018
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He's not wrong. As long as the camera is decent to good, most people are content.

If the camera was as important as you think, the Pixel wouldn't be struggling.
Samsung and Apple are both struggling with growth as well. That is not Pixel specific and you know it

If the pixel didn't have an amazing camera it would be dead in the water by now. Like HTC level.

Everyone keeps saying all cameras are fine now. Go take a photo in dark bar with weird lighting or next to a Christmas tree.

90% of them will be trash but phones that are awesome at complex lighting (Pixel).

Lastly, even IF cameras were all good enough now people still fall for the camera marketing hype. It's very important to consumers.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Samsung and Apple are both struggling with growth as well. That is not Pixel specific and you know it

If the pixel didn't have an amazing camera it would be dead in the water by now. Like HTC level.

Everyone keeps saying all cameras are fine now. Go take a photo in dark bar with weird lighting or next to a Christmas tree.

90% of them will be trash but phones that are awesome at complex lighting (Pixel).

Lastly, even IF cameras were all good enough now people still fall for the camera marketing hype. It's very important to consumers.
None of this refutes my point. A great camera isn't a top priority for most people. A decent to good camera is.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Also its pretty freaking hard to market the camera on the pixel. Like... ‘using ai to make the picture pretty’ isn’t really easy to sell. Which is why LG and huawei are using the ‘scene selector’ icons to at least have users feel like there is some fancy ai doing fancy stuff.

Pixel also lacking on the extra lenses doesn’t help either.

You can pretty easily demonstrate the dopeness of an ultra wide angle lense... or the dopeness of a telephoto zoom lense.


Hopefully google gets on this stuff.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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They're not going to move Pixel units with that design. Doesn't matter how cheap they make them, or how much people do or don't care about camera quality. The 3a is a waste of time. It looks so antiquated it's hilarious. And what's even more troubling is that Google is evidently still shopping around for a Pixel 4 design.
 
Jul 22, 2018
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They're not going to move Pixel units with that design. Doesn't matter how cheap they make them, or how much people do or don't care about camera quality. The 3a is a waste of time. It looks so antiquated it's hilarious. And what's even more troubling is that Google is evidently still shopping around for a Pixel 4 design.
Lol. Some 14 year old posts on Twitter there are 4 design teams fighting it out and you believe it and assume Google is doomed.

And yes the Pixel 3a is going to sell bucket loads by having the best still camera camera on the market at $400.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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The cheapest iPhone Apple is currently offering is the $450 iPhone 7 and it almost certainly still says pretty well (Alongside the $600 iPhone 8). I think ya'll are deluding yourselves if you think a $400 Pixel isn't going to sell well.
 

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Oct 24, 2017
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The cheapest iPhone Apple is currently offering is the $450 iPhone 7 and it almost certainly still says pretty well (Alongside the $600 iPhone 8). I think ya'll are deluding yourselves if you think a $400 Pixel isn't going to sell well.
In what universe is the Pixel on the same level as an iPhone?

Not to mention that to this day you can’t officially buy a Pixel almost anywhere in the world.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I really don't understand Google's strategy here, are they releasing the Pixel 3a for a year long shelf live or will they release a Pixel 4a with the Pixel 4 (which would make sense to me) giving the 3a a short lifespan.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Deciding between a OnePlus 7 and OnePlus 7 Pro. I dislike notches, and I never use a front facing camera. What do you guys think? Is it worth paying more?
 
Jul 22, 2018
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In what universe is the Pixel on the same level as an iPhone?

Not to mention that to this day you can’t officially buy a Pixel almost anywhere in the world.
This post is hilarious. The BOM is probably more expensive on a Pixel than an iPhone and a Pixel does plenty of things better than an iPhone.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Text messages dont go through when the phones screen is off or when the phone itself is off, I always have to download them. What can I do to fix it?

Oneplus 5t Google Fi.
 
Jul 22, 2018
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I love that you think that was about specs.
A Pixel phone had not gone EOL yet so you can't be talking about long term support since we dont know. I guess if you're referring to customer service than yes than you are correct since Apples is much better.

Text messages dont go through when the phones screen is off or when the phone itself is off, I always have to download them. What can I do to fix it?

Oneplus 5t Google Fi.
You can always contact your carrier or OnePlus. Which messaging app are you using? If you are using the OnePlus one you should switch to Google Messages since you are on Fi.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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A Pixel phone had not gone EOL yet so you can't be talking about long term support since we dont know. I guess if you're referring to customer service than yes than you are correct since Apples is much better.
must be talking about fanbase or ... i dunno? Apple ecosystem? like how Android Wear gets dinged for not working as good on iPhone, but Apple Watch gets handwaved for not working at all on iPhone.
 

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何これ
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Oct 24, 2017
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must be talking about fanbase or ... i dunno? Apple ecosystem? like how Android Wear gets dinged for not working as good on iPhone, but Apple Watch gets handwaved for not working at all on iPhone.
The argument I replied to says that a 450 dollar iPhone sells well, so a Pixel will as well.

Where as a Pixel has tons of competition. None of the allure attached to it's name. Sells fairly poorly compared to it's competition in the premium market (as per Alphabet's own quarterly report), and if they finally launch in more than a dozen countries worldwide, being a newcomer there as well.

A "budget" iPhone sells at a relatively high price of 450 because if you want an iPhone and you don't have much money, that is your option.

A budget Pixel at a fairly high price with lower mid-range specs and a great camera isn't guaranteed to sell like mad, and that isn't about "deluding" ourselves as the OP said, but about being in an entirely different position and market.
 
Jul 22, 2018
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The argument I replied to says that a 450 dollar iPhone sells well, so a Pixel will as well.

Where as a Pixel has tons of competition. None of the allure attached to it's name. Sells fairly poorly compared to it's competition in the premium market (as per Alphabet's own quarterly report), and if they finally launch in more than a dozen countries worldwide, being a newcomer there as well.

A "budget" iPhone sells at a relatively high price of 450 because if you want an iPhone and you don't have much money, that is your option.

A budget Pixel at a fairly high price with lower mid-range specs and a great camera isn't guaranteed to sell like mad, and that isn't about "deluding" ourselves as the OP said, but about being in an entirely different position and market.
Your statement was so generic how did you expect people to react? It's impossible to come to this conclusion based on your previous reply.

The Pixel 3a will most likely sell far better than any Pixel before it. It's coming to more carriers at launch and fills a huge void in the mid range in the United States.

I know I'm being ignorant for only thinking about the us blah blah blah.
 

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何これ
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Oct 24, 2017
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Your statement was so generic how did you expect people to react? It's impossible to come to this conclusion based on your previous reply.

The Pixel 3a will most likely sell far better than any Pixel before it. It's coming to more carriers at launch and fills a huge void in the mid range in the United States.

I know I'm being ignorant for only thinking about the us blah blah blah.
Not ignorant, but mistaken. The smartphone market for budget phones is not US centric, if you expect a Pixel budget phone to make serious numbers, I would expect it to be outside of the US, not within.
 

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何これ
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Oct 24, 2017
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In the US, if the thing is not being pushed by the carriers in their stores, it's not selling well.
That, but also the US still does subsidized sales, allowing for more expensive phones to be sold to people with not the biggest budgets.

Where as most non-US countries either never had such systems, or have banned and/or regulated those systems (mostly EU for the latter). Increasing demand for budget offerings.

But even then, the competition is fierce, and companies like Samsung have competing offerings that Pixel will have to contend with while arguably being a less well known brand than them. Pixel will have a hard time in that competitive space.
 
Jul 22, 2018
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That, but also the US still does subsidized sales, allowing for more expensive phones to be sold to people with not the biggest budgets.

Where as most non-US countries either never had such systems, or have banned and/or regulated those systems (mostly EU for the latter). Increasing demand for budget offerings.

But even then, the competition is fierce, and companies like Samsung have competing offerings that Pixel will have to contend with while arguably being a less well known brand than them. Pixel will have a hard time in that competitive space.
The subsidizing is very different now. Before it was buried in the monthly contract. Now there is no contract but people see the line item for the phone seperately on their bill. They are well aware of how much they are paying. Times have changed.

The Pixel is a well known brand now due to the Verizon contract. It was advertised like crazy.
https://www.strategyanalytics.com/s.../02/12/google-pixel-is-starting-to-catch-fire

As I mentioned before there is a huge void in the mid range in the US. Those popular chinese handsets that sell well in Europe barely exist here. People either buy a dirt cheap moto or samsung or jump all the way up to a S10 or iPhone.
 
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Nov 7, 2017
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Psyched about the One Plus 7 Pro. Reasons:

6.64" screen. Hard to believe a bigger screen STILL holds sway over me, I mean, it's GOT to stop at some point, right (I thought we'd reached that point when 4.3" screens were "too big", lol at my unbelievable naivety)? but here we are in 2019 and I still want that bigger screen. S10 only goes to 6.4. The 6.7" S10 is only on Verizon, the worst network and one I'll never be on AND costs 1400...

5G, not even sure about this part. Not really relevant but might be a cool checkbox.

All the latest specs.

All for a now reasonable rumored 749, vs 1k for the s10+?

Also, as long as I've been into phones, I've never really had the "latest and greatest" day 1 or thereabouts. I always wait, score a deal on last years flagship or something. Just one time in my life, I want to (admittedly, waste money) and be on the cutting edge for a few weeks. Just once.

That said I might have to sell a few other toys to not feel too bad about it!

I must say though I have one big worry about the Pro coming from Samsung (currently using a S8+ for about the past year). Which is with a Samsung flagship I know I can send it to them if I drop and crack the screen, and they'll fix it for ~200. With oneplus, first well, they're chinese, and while the chinese are making strides they still seem to often lack in customer service (a fact I learned owning a Huawei phone previously). They have a price list on their websites for repairs, but it doesn't give a simple all in price like Samsung. Evidently you basically have to send it in and then see how much they're gonna charge...

My nightmare scenario is always buying some super expensive new phone, and dropping it and cracking it like in the first week. So yeah. This is worrisome, but overall still kinda psyched and strongly considering purchase.

The pixel 3a XL also somewhat interests me, the camera is really nice on the flagship pixels, and this from a guy who poos-poos all the concern over smartphone cameras (been known to type "all smartphone camera pics look the same" or "if you want a camera, buy a camera" in a comment field or two lol. That said, only a 6.0 screen is my biggest issue with it.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I have a quick question regarding a broken android tablet. It's been almost a month now and the thing will not come back to life after it suddenly shut down while in use so I'm just going to buy a new one at some point. Before I try flogging the broken one on eBay for parts or whatever though, I want to make sure my google account is signed out if possible, so if I revoke access to the account from the device in a browser, will this ensure a future owner will not be signed in on my profile if they were able to revive it?

If that method does work, would it also sort out my apps too like facebook etc. or would somebody be able to get into those accounts even if the google account is no longer tied to it (pretty much all my apps are set to remember my password)?

I would really appreciate the help if anybody has an answer, and since I feel like I've worded this post really poorly, please ask if there's anything you want me to clear up.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Connecticut
Not sure if this is where I should be posting. Butttt, I'm looking to get a new phone. Right now I have a Galaxy S7 which was sent to me by insurance ( for my Blackberry Priv, rest its soul ). My biggest things I'm looking for are camera, screen, and battery. $500 range is where I'm looking at, on ATT too if that helps.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Not sure if this is where I should be posting. Butttt, I'm looking to get a new phone. Right now I have a Galaxy S7 which was sent to me by insurance ( for my Blackberry Priv, rest its soul ). My biggest things I'm looking for are camera, screen, and battery. $500 range is where I'm looking at, on ATT too if that helps.
If you are on an unlimited plan, and are willing to take a 2 year contract, you could get a S10 for $499
 
Oct 25, 2017
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i dunno why people don't use burner accounts with them after knowing these YEARS OF ISSUES WITH CONDUCTING COMPLETELY NORMAL RETAIL BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS but yeah, go ahead and use your proper account buying or leasing phones from Google.