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Anime |OT| Winter 2019 - Stand with the Mob or Stand with your Friends

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Oct 25, 2017
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I love how people defend Made in Abyss even though it has pedo stuff all over it in the manga where as things like Goblin Slayer or Shield Hero are said to be way worse.

No all three are trash with their obvious author fetishes. There is still content for everyone who likes different stuff to enjoy and nobody is trash for enjoying any of these series.
One significant difference is that, so far, the pedo stuff isn't baked into the core narrative. You could basically easily remove or alter all instances of it without damaging the story or anything. It would simply be a much better show.

I say 'so far' because who knows where this is going.
 
Jun 20, 2018
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I thought Made in the abyss was a critical darling? It topped almost every best anime of the year list and Dutch anime magazine Aniway uses it constantly as a example of what's good storytelling
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I thought Made in the abyss was a critical darling? It topped almost every best anime of the year list and Dutch anime magazine Aniway uses it constantly as a example of what's good storytelling
It was. Fantastic anime but it doesn’t mean that a ton of the stuff wasn’t creepy. Manga is even worse. You can take out that stuff and the narrative holds up and isn’t dragged down by it.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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California
The difference with Made in Abyss is that the adaptation keeps most of problematic shittiness to a minimum. Whether its sequels will do that who knows but the 13 eps we have now I think are reasonably content safe. Not spotless, but not as bad as slavery defense or whatever this season's nonsense is

[Shield Hero Shit]
this is a good tag I appreciate it
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I thought Made in the abyss was a critical darling? It topped almost every best anime of the year list and Dutch anime magazine Aniway uses it constantly as a example of what's good storytelling
MitA is popular, because the anime cut obvious ... strange stuff. The manga is still disgusting in that regard and I can't see anyone defending it at all, but people do and enjoy it which is okay in my book.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I think I understand what you're getting at. The Shield Hero (Naofumi) is pure in that he doesn't have any interest in a romantic relationship with either Raphtalia or Filo. I've heard from other people that Raphtalia's affection for him is unrequited, so I'll go ahead and take your word for it.

But that actually brings up a problem I have with Naofumi so far...dude's a fucking Gary Stu.

He's this noble, brave, intelligent, self-sacrificing, benevolent character with virtually no character flaws (you could argue he's gullible, but even that's kinda weak sauce). None of the bad things that happen to him are his fault, they're all the machinations of the cartoonishly villainous King and Myne, as well as the literal forces of darkness. He's portrayed as "weak" whilst being able to best a person twice his level with absolutely 0 offensive utility because of how crazy overpowered his kit is, as well as his apparently genius level intellect.

I reserve the right to be proven wrong and I'd love to see the character actually get some form of depth...but as of right now he's a few steps removed from being Kirito.
Naofumi has tons of character flaws, lol. More on that in episode 7.

Yeah I don't think desensitiving yourself to bullshit is a good thing. You often see people on anime forum tell other people to watch some easy to get into anime before starting the fucked up ones (and call themselves stuff like experienced anime watchers)... But how about not doing that? There are plenty of good series without needing to scrap the bottom of the barrel and literally brainwashing yourself to find screwed up things acceptable.
People do that all the time with mainstream Western media.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Sidenote: I'm not sure I like the "audience will thirst after these characters" argument. The audience thirsts after every character. No one should be sexualizing the MHA kids but that shit keep happening, annoyingly. :/
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I love how people defend Made in Abyss even though it has pedo stuff all over it in the manga where as things like Goblin Slayer or Shield Hero are said to be way worse.

No all three are trash with their obvious author fetishes. There is still content for everyone who likes different stuff to enjoy and nobody is trash for enjoying any of these series.
I mean I in no way defend the problematic material that the series has (especially manga). Just that aside from that it's very well made series with strong world building, storyline etc and that is why it's shame it has that disgusting pedo stuff in it. Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer are completely average shows even if they didn't have problematic material.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I mean I in no way defend the problematic material that the series has (especially manga). Just that aside from that it's very well made series with strong world building, storyline etc and that is why it's shame it has that disgusting pedo stuff in it. Shield Hero and Goblin Slayer are completely average shows even if they didn't have problematic material.
To each their own. I for example can't read Made in the Abyss anymore cause of that where as I have no qualms about Goblin Slayer and Shield Hero so far. : | But for both of them I also read the LN which are not that bad.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Metropolis
A really baffling production. It clearly is a very ambitious effort with a heavy set of resources behind it but the lackluster direction and especially travesty of the script, incapable of proper pacing, characterisation, basic dialogue and much more make it all a wasted effort.

Saiki Final Arc 01
Wow they actually acknowledged this ? For the first time I think ? 49 eps in the making
 

E_i

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Oct 27, 2017
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People going to see I Want To Eat Your Pancreas are all sorts of fun with the way theaters are cutting off the titles on the tickets and displays.

 
Oct 25, 2017
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Sidenote: I'm not sure I like the "audience will thirst after these characters" argument. The audience thirsts after every character. No one should be sexualizing the MHA kids but that shit keep happening, annoyingly. :/
Audience will lust after character creators may even design to be awful or not to be liked/lusted after. Not worth thinking about tbh.

Reminds me of danganronpa and how the guy behind it was disappointed or something that the audience liked a character he designed to be hated.
 
Dec 28, 2018
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Audience will lust after character creators may even design to be awful or not to be liked/lusted after. Not worth thinking about tbh.

Reminds me of danganronpa and how the guy behind it was disappointed or something that the audience liked a character he designed to be hated.
Believe that was Miu from Danganronpa V3. I’m guessing he thought people wouldn’t like her because of how perverted she was but it ended up being one of the main reasons why so many people liked her.
 
Nov 1, 2017
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Sidenote: I'm not sure I like the "audience will thirst after these characters" argument. The audience thirsts after every character. No one should be sexualizing the MHA kids but that shit keep happening, annoyingly. :/
There's a difference between a character that is meant to make the audience lust after them and a normal character.
People still lusting after the latter doesn't matter here.
 

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Egao 06

This show just keeps getting worse each episode. Like, how many times can your subjects keep refusing to follow your orders before they're executed for that shit? Its obvious they can't win the war through traditional means, so surrender is really the only valid option at this point. If winning is actually the goal, there was always the option of using their magic energy generators as nuclear bombs and just wiping out the whole Empire's army the second they took the city like what happened to Yuki's parents, but none of the characters are remotely smart enough to think of such a tactic. They couldn't even figure out that they could just make a big unpassable crevice with some mines, while Yuki came up with it on the spot. No wonder they're losing.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Tampa
Boogiepop and Others Episode 6:

I do wonder how much input The Towa Organization actually has on the present situation given that Spooky E appears to be engaged in obsessive revenge against Boogiepop and also seems way out of his depth.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The Price Of Smiles Episode 6:

I get that this is supposed to be emotionally devestating but I find myself little moved by the series of events, maybe due to the lack of a defined goal enacted by The Empire at this stage.
 

xEik

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Nov 17, 2017
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The Catalan Republic
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This fights good until you realize Mista was able to function with FOUR fingers.
English is not my first language but I thought in English most humans had four fingers and a thumb in each hand so Mista would have THREE fingers. :P
In Catalan we have five fingers per hand so I suspect the same is true in Italian. I have no idea about how it is in Japanese.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Austin, TX
Man, you guys weren't kidding about Rakugo. I watched the first 2 episodes (really more like the first 3 since the first one is a double) and it is so good! It actually has made me want to see one of these performances in real life. I see on Wiki there is a LA adaptation airing..it is a shame it doesn't appear to be on Crunchyroll as well. Is there any decent Drama on there? I have yet to watch anything on it.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I feel I must be the only one who hasn't had any issue with Crunchy.

Edit: Welp, it got jinxed. I was almost done with season 1 of Mob too. Only got to watch the OVA and the five episodes to be updated.
quintessential quintuplets:

So, Team Itsuki or Team Miku?
Team Ichika.
You will find out later why. Though I would say every one of them has their qualities so it would be hard to root for any of them over the others.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Well that's new. Maybe Crunchyroll is getting ddos'd.
I've heard heresay that some pirate sites in Latin America got taken down and that might be the cause of the DDOS attacks.

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man, they really didn't care for Babyface huh? I'm pretty sure I remember a part where Babyface turned into Giorno's shadow or something.

also there was some blatantly unfinished sequences at the end there so oh boy production please hold out
 
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Nov 5, 2017
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I've heard heresay that some pirate sites in Latin America got taken down and that might be the cause of the DDOS attacks.

GioGio 18

man, they really didn't care for Babyface huh? I'm pretty sure I remember a part where Babyface turned into Giorno's shadow or something.

also there was some blatantly unfinished sequences at the end there so oh boy production please hold out
Yeah there was some meh animated stuff but at the same better it looked a heck of a lot better then Harvest Part 1 which was Episode 18 of DIU
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Boogiepop 07

So this is just confusing and aimless and also there's a girl in love with her brother cousin because that's definitely what this needed
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I moved on to VRV ages ago. It has the superior package if you live in the States at least.


I'm from the future, so Team Nino actually. She won me over.

I feel it's obvious that Itsuki wins though.
Right? She was the first to really connect with him and his family.

I know that Miku is the most popular with the fandom by far, though.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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The Adirondacks
English is not my first language but I thought in English most humans had four fingers and a thumb in each hand so Mista would have THREE fingers. :P
In Catalan we have five fingers per hand so I suspect the same is true in Italian. I have no idea about how it is in Japanese.
It varies depending on context.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Sidenote: I'm not sure I like the "audience will thirst after these characters" argument. The audience thirsts after every character. No one should be sexualizing the MHA kids but that shit keep happening, annoyingly. :/
There's a HUGE difference between a character that people incidentally thirst after, and someone who was intentionally designed to be someone the audience thirsts after. The latter is what we're concerned with here. And, y'know, it's pretty blatantly obvious when it occurs. I don't think there's even the slightest bit of ambiguity with these examples in particular (referring to Shield Hero's and Goblin Slayer's respective female casts).

I should mention that I am personally completely turned off whenever a show displays that kind of intention. I get enough mindless objectification in my media as it is (I mean, I play gacha games for cryin' out loud). I do not and will not go out of my way to subject myself to that shit. It's obviously fourth-wall-breaking, but also just shows a kind of disrespect for the audience and a complete disregard for anyone outside of that audience. I'd have so much less to complain about if designers worked first from the perspective of creating a character to fit in with their universe, and less so from the perspective of "how do I get dudes to thirst over this girl".
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Mob Psycho II, I knew it was gonna be reeeally good considering the stellar job they did with season1 but not this good so soon. I was impressed by episode 4 but holyfuckballs they surpassed all my expectations with episode 5. art of the year
Ive always been a really big fan of ONE and OPM but MP100 is honestly his best work and Im glad the anime adaptation is yet again absolutely amazing
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Smiles 06

Between the Kingdom being filled with idiots and the Empire being generic evil invaders, I'm not even sure who I should be caring for at this point.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This is all your guys faults for spending so much time discussing degenerate filth like Shield Hero and not sticking to wholesome fare like Kaguya-sama.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Magical Girl Spec-Ops Asuka 5

Once again there are glimpses of interesting stuff down there, but it doesn't really hit any strong landing point. The fight scenes are fine, but not that memorable. Scissors being an artificial magical girl creates some larger implications, but that's not the current focus. Super guns can slow down magical girls, but are lame if that's the best they can do. At least they can get rid of the cannon fodder. The most interesting part was wiping Nozomi's memory to get rid of her trauma. I don't mind them doing that, but I wish she had some say in the matter. Having her get jerked along like this doesn't endear me to her. Also the government is corrupt, which I don't think qualifies as a twist.
 
Nov 16, 2017
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Hanebado! 4
We're already meeting the fake sister?! This is moving faster than I thought. I eagerly look forward to the Awakening of Ayano and the subsequent death of her enemies.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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NZ
Hinomaruzumou has become pretty entertaining to watch. Nothing too special though, but I've been liking those past few episodes more than what we got towards the beginning.

Boogiepop 7

This series is mildly interesting.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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See you next season for the next anime that will be the "worst thing that happens this community".

It feels like there's an anime every other season that does this. Goblin Slayer, Made in Abyss, etc.
Next season's I Was Reborn As A Pedophile Cannibal Nazi With A Harem is gonna tear the thread apart.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I knew what was going to happen but damn was I still tense as hell all throughout the qualifier.

Seeing Haiji's reaction got me so emotional. He dropped his facade for a bit and allowed himself to really express joy and happiness. His dream finally came true!
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I love how people defend Made in Abyss even though it has pedo stuff all over it in the manga where as things like Goblin Slayer or Shield Hero are said to be way worse.

No all three are trash with their obvious author fetishes. There is still content for everyone who likes different stuff to enjoy and nobody is trash for enjoying any of these series.
An unfortunate part of anime - and otaku culture as a whole - is the appeals to fringe fetishes and alienating subject matter.
I'd rather not have the pedo trash in MiA, but at least it's mostly used in the context of awkward comedy moments.

Eromanga-sensei deserves waaaay more hate for simply being pretentious child porn.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'd rather not have the pedo trash in MiA, but at least it's mostly used in the context of awkward comedy moments.
The times when it isn't an awkward comedy moment just damns the whole thing, because it happens enough where I eventually had to really look back at the moments I was barely able to look past to begin with and see it in a new unsavory light.
 
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