Anime |OT| Winter 2019 - Stand with the Mob or Stand with your Friends

Nemesis162

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User Banned (1 month): Inflammatory false equivalence. History of rationalizing depictions involving the sexualization of minors.
MitA is popular, because the anime cut obvious ... strange stuff. The manga is still disgusting in that regard and I can't see anyone defending it at all, but people do and enjoy it which is okay in my book.
The manga is very popular as well so eh.

An unfortunate part of anime - and otaku culture as a whole - is the appeals to fringe fetishes and alienating subject matter.
I'd rather not have the pedo trash in MiA, but at least it's mostly used in the context of awkward comedy moments.

Eromanga-sensei deserves waaaay more hate for simply being pretentious child porn.
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If we go by that, pretty much every anime is pretentious child porn including One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, many harem from shonen jump and whatever more as the majority of the characters on anime adaptations are:

1) from works focusing on male teenage demography
2) the majority are teenager characters below 18 yo
3) the sexualized character or whatever the fanservice is on the series, it happens with those characters

Early prediction - Isekai Quartet
Nah, that's just a harmless crossover. It won't do shit to anyone and if it does, I'll kill my account because it would be absurd.


No avoiding Ilulu now. God help this place.
LMAO. I really can't wait to see how the fuck they'll deal with what happens lately on the manga which is certainly... polemic to say the least.
 
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Nah, that's just a harmless crossover. It won't do shit to anyone and if it does, I'll kill my account because it would be absurd.
I was being sarcastic. Though people will say it's the death of the anime community anyway.

If something causes a anime civil war next season, it'd be if OPM season 2 is a letdown.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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If something causes you a ton of rage, why not just...not watch it? I don't like violent tsundere characters, and if I have to deal with more than one "misunderstanding", I'm cutting the show off. I cut Phantom World off before finishing an episode. I'm desensitized to most fanservice, but Clockwork Planet's absurd makeout scene in the first episode was enough for me to bounce.

I'm not going to rail against it--its out there for someone to enjoy. Just...not for me. I'll stick to my tame series like Fairy Tail and Black Clover, lol.
 

Nemesis162

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[Shield Hero Shit]

I may understand the temptation, but it's not wise to forgo critical inquiry because something is "anime". The problem is that what qualifies as "expected" in anime changes over time, so 'dodgy' stuff that was one fringe can work itself into more mainstream titles. Therefore I believe it's best to judge a work against our own ideas of what is acceptable vs what happens to be in other shows.

In this case, the notion of child gaining the appearance of a women should be one that deserves critical examination considering what we know about the propensity of such works to sexualise minors.



This isn't a defense of the show, in many ways it's an indictment of it.

Shield Hero is an isekai, which is where a particular kind of character, a standard Japanese guy (a.k.a YOU, the target audience) fall into a fantasy realm. The main character (hereafter called MC) acquires a quest, various kinds of power and a selection of followers, several of whom will be women or girls. These followers often fall in love with the MC. The MC in an isekai is often very thin, which is to say they are lacking in agency and characteristics besides being generically 'nice'/'good' and having some special competency.

The reason for all of the above is because the isekai serves as a power fantasy for the reader. The reader gets to be whisked out of their boring, stale life to an exciting world where they have power, fame and also lots of girls fawning over them. This is easier to accomplish when the protagonist is blank and unremarkable, because it makes it easier for the reader to the project themselves over them and into the story. If the MC had a really strongly defined character, notable flaws or struggles etc then it wouldn't be so easy to achieve this. Shield Hero fits this same model.

Now we can return to my opening claim. Trojita seems to share the view that the series is 'clean and pure' because the MC doesn't lust over the women whom he owns. From this logic, it wouldn't matter if the women e.g. re-enslave themselves to give the MC more power, or are actually children with the bodies of women or whatever because the MC doesn't have carnal desires for them and therefore aren't a "harem". However, as I have shown above, these women aren't for the MC - they're for you, the viewer to fantasies about. He's "left them" for you, as it were. You're the one who is supposed to want to have sex with these characters, which is exactly why they're designed the way they are and sexualised in the manner they are. It exactly the same as in last seasons Goblin Slayer or any of the other countless isekai and standard harem anime. This is just how it goes.

Which is a long way of saying that, yes, it is a problem when 'actually 10 year old girl who can have the appearance of a women' is added to the MC's harem because the implication is that the audience (or at least a certain targeted part of the audience) is supposed to be sexually attracted to said character. Of course, the writers of these stories know that the audience has diverse 'tastes', which is why these stories tends to have a number of girls & women in them so that as many kinds of audiences as possible get something they want.
That first paragraph is certainly fascinant because I can cite more than 20 Isekai on LN that aren't like that at all and even those that actually are, have a male mc and have a pretty big female fanbase, which breaks quite a bit the part of self-insert for the story.

Isekai in LN in the end, much like LN itself be it for male/female demography and shonen/shoujo manga is juvenile. The best comparison you can get on western media for LN and Isekai LN are Twilight and Harry Potter as the main consumers are highschool and middleschool students, so basically teenagers.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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My Roommate Is A Cat 5

This show makes me choke up every episode. The power of anime and cats. Damnit.

MC and Nana need to start dating and move in together so Haru and Hachi can live together again. I hope the youngest kitten is still alive somewhere :(
 
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The manga is very popular as well so eh.

Nah, that's just a harmless crossover. It won't do shit to anyone and if it does, I'll kill my account because it would be absurd.

LMAO. I really can't wait to see how the fuck they'll deal with what happens lately on the manga which is certainly... polemic to say the least.
Which sucks in regards to the eye twisting content they put in it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I was considering making my own thread but for now I'll just ask here.

I've been going through a rough spot with my grandfather passing away about a month ago, one cat a few months back, and our current one is sick, and life in general is just not very peachy for me right now.

Does anyone know any good uplifting or happy anime I can watch? I'm rewatching Yuru Camp for like the 4th time in the meanwhile. I don't care if its the weebest Cute Girls Doing Cute Things either, I like that kinda stuff.
 
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I was considering making my own thread but for now I'll just ask here.

I've been going through a rough spot with my grandfather passing away about a month ago, one cat a few months back, and our current one is sick, and life in general is just not very peachy for me right now.

Does anyone know any good uplifting or happy anime I can watch? I'm rewatching Yuru Camp for like the 4th time in the meanwhile. I don't care if its the weebest Cute Girls Doing Cute Things either, I like that kinda stuff.
Non Non Biyori is pretty feel good, easy going.
 
Nov 1, 2017
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I was considering making my own thread but for now I'll just ask here.

I've been going through a rough spot with my grandfather passing away about a month ago, one cat a few months back, and our current one is sick, and life in general is just not very peachy for me right now.

Does anyone know any good uplifting or happy anime I can watch? I'm rewatching Yuru Camp for like the 4th time in the meanwhile. I don't care if its the weebest Cute Girls Doing Cute Things either, I like that kinda stuff.
If you haven't, watch Bunny Drop
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I was considering making my own thread but for now I'll just ask here.

I've been going through a rough spot with my grandfather passing away about a month ago, one cat a few months back, and our current one is sick, and life in general is just not very peachy for me right now.

Does anyone know any good uplifting or happy anime I can watch? I'm rewatching Yuru Camp for like the 4th time in the meanwhile. I don't care if its the weebest Cute Girls Doing Cute Things either, I like that kinda stuff.
Hanayamata

Also Barakamon
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I was considering making my own thread but for now I'll just ask here.

I've been going through a rough spot with my grandfather passing away about a month ago, one cat a few months back, and our current one is sick, and life in general is just not very peachy for me right now.

Does anyone know any good uplifting or happy anime I can watch? I'm rewatching Yuru Camp for like the 4th time in the meanwhile. I don't care if its the weebest Cute Girls Doing Cute Things either, I like that kinda stuff.
Sora yori mo Tooi Basho should fit the bill.

Comic Girls isn't super uplifting, but it always put me in a better mood
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Kaguya-sama: Love is War 5

Show continues to be perfect.

Mama Fujiwara segment was solid gold as expected, but they really elevated the mmbrella segment a lot beyond its manga incarnation. Just good stuff all around




This is a romcom adaptation, I swear.

We finally get best boy next week.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I was considering making my own thread but for now I'll just ask here.

I've been going through a rough spot with my grandfather passing away about a month ago, one cat a few months back, and our current one is sick, and life in general is just not very peachy for me right now.

Does anyone know any good uplifting or happy anime I can watch? I'm rewatching Yuru Camp for like the 4th time in the meanwhile. I don't care if its the weebest Cute Girls Doing Cute Things either, I like that kinda stuff.
Mahoujin Guru Guru is a delight.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Kaguya-sama: Love is War 5

Another great episode.

I think in the relationship advice part there's a mistake in the script. Kaguya says "but Shinomiya gave romantic advice once, so there's no way I can tell her it's beyond me!". I'm fairly certain "Shinomiya" should be "Shirogane", refering to when Shirogane gave romantice advice. In the manga the internal monolouge is about how a Shinomiya has to follow through once they've promised something, so I think that's where the source of the error is.
 

Nemesis162

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There's like 50 anime every season so you're still watching a fuckton of series.
Well, that's true.

I mean, that's the only real reason I've stopped watching half of anime because of that.
If the tweet you posted is referring to Isekai, then that makes no sense because there's more than 40 anime per season and if you look at the anime from each season since 2012, the worst case would be Summer 2018 where Overlord III, Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu, Shichisei no Subaru and Hyakuren no Haou to Seiyaku no Valkyria were on the same period. Hardly a big number compared to the quantity of titles released on the same period and of course, hardly half o anime since it's not even close to it.
 
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Kaguya-sama 05

The beginning of my absolute favorite running gag in the series.

Also make sure to stay after the ED for a sneak peak at best boy.
 
Nov 27, 2018
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Hey ya'll, thought I would ask here. I love watching shows/documentaries where regular people are devoted to their respective craft and becoming better at it. (it can be any job from shopkeeping to ballet) Any good anime that are kinda like that? I am thinking non-sports related and a light-hearted tone to it is also fine. Also, any good police/secret service anime set in a sorta contemporary setting that feature no supernatural elements?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Hey ya'll, thought I would ask here. I love watching shows/documentaries where regular people are devoted to their respective craft and becoming better at it. (it can be any job from shopkeeping to ballet) Any good anime that are kinda like that? I am thinking non-sports related and a light-hearted tone to it is also fine.
Shirobako.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Hey ya'll, thought I would ask here. I love watching shows/documentaries where regular people are devoted to their respective craft and becoming better at it. (it can be any job from shopkeeping to ballet) Any good anime that are kinda like that? I am thinking non-sports related and a light-hearted tone to it is also fine. Also, any good police/secret service anime set in a sorta contemporary setting that feature no supernatural elements?
GTO
Bakumon



Psycho Pass
Active Raid
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Just to be clear, the only I stopped watching on specific anime season is in around 2016 to present. I admit half of anime sounds a bit hyperbole. I'm not trying to be exaggerate with my statement. It's just that I couldn't follow up with ton of anime to be precised.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Hey ya'll, thought I would ask here. I love watching shows/documentaries where regular people are devoted to their respective craft and becoming better at it. (it can be any job from shopkeeping to ballet) Any good anime that are kinda like that? I am thinking non-sports related and a light-hearted tone to it is also fine. Also, any good police/secret service anime set in a sorta contemporary setting that feature no supernatural elements?
Baby Steps, Welcome to the Ballroom, 3-gatsu no lion (there are a lot of human drama here), Honey and Clover (central ark of one of main characters, really great pay off at the end of first season), Ping Pong the Animation.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I've had a busy week trying to play Resident Evil 2 and Kingdom Hearts III while making time to watch stuff, so these impressions are a bit late.
Boogiepop and Others 6 - DROPPED
I can't do it anymore. As much as I want to like Boogiepop because it shares a fair amount in common with other notable dialogue-heavy LN series that drew inspiration from it, the lack of any kind of effort to communicate many of the more subtle ideas and metaphors from the source material through distinctive direction and visual design is just indefensible at this point. The Imaginator arc is practically all about the various mental conflicts going on between the main characters as they struggle to grapple with difficult adolescent questions all while being wrapped up in an ideological conflict between the Imaginator and the Towa Organization, and the lack of any attempt to present these sequences as anything other than people talking without any kind of unique framing that brings the subtext onto the screen, much of the meaning behind the conflict is lost in translation. And as things drag on here without any real sign of resolution, I've completely checked out of the show at this point, and I don't think it can win me back at this point. Maybe one day I'll sit down and attempt to read the original light novels, because I think there's things of note to explore there. But I'm certainly not going to try pushing through any more of this adaptation.

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Golden Wind Vento Aureo 17
Uh... Araki has had some pretty messed up Stands in the past, but I don't think I can remember anything quite as disturbing as Babyface. Not only is it something that reduces organic matter to material objects as it sees fit, but the idea that the remote part of the Stand... grows after a suitable "host" is "impregnated" with the Stand is maybe the most screwed up concept Araki has dealt with in JoJo thus far. Araki's always had a... weird relationship with women throughout JoJo, sometimes having fantastically strong female characters like Lisa Lisa or Reimi Sugimoto, but then there's stuff like this or Anne from Stardust Crusaders and it's hard not to feel really uncomfortable when watching it. Still, I actually think this is one of the more satisfying fights with Giorno, as many of the things Golden Experience does here feel entirely consistent with the abilities we are already familiar with rather than something that feels pulled out of thin air like the poison-immune brick snake. The thing is, I imagine that if Babyface works the same way Black Sabbath did, the Stand user won't be defeated even if Babyface's son bites it here fighting Giorno. So whatever chase sequence starts once the rest show up, it's going to be a pretty big chaotic mess.

Kaguya-sama: Love is War 4
Another solid episode after the last one, though one that perhaps seems to suffer a little from a somewhat lacking sense of pace. That said, the individual segments themselves were pretty funny, what with Fujiwara psyching out both the president and Kaguya in the word game (and laying the groundwork for where the rap stuff would eventually originate from), or Hayasaka having none of Kaguya's indecisiveness. The French segment was fairly funny, but a lot of the better moments felt like they were a little mistimed to be as funny as they could be. Still, this was another episode that felt like the show was continuing after hitting its stride the week before, and now that they're starting to expand the cast ever so slowly beyond the original three characters, I look forward to how they begin to utilize them in the future.

GeGeGe no Kitaro 42
This Ace Attorney special was an interesting episode, one framed to be much more realistic than I would've expected. Instead of the kind of bombast you usually find in courtroom dramas, this was a somber and relatively brutal look at the real-life Japanese court system, one that relies on the more "Roman" style guilty-until-proven-innocent mantra. Again, the subtle undercurrent of "us versus them" is palpable throughout the proceedings, and while the case is eventually proven to be a farce, the kinds of emotions it exposes in the youkai as a whole are still unsettling in how much they mirror certain xenophobic attitudes of older Japanese generations. I can't help but wonder exactly how all of this is going to boil over when our nameless villain's grand plan comes to fruition, but I can't help but think an all-out war between youkai and humans is inevitable at this point. As for the trial itself, it was a fairly standard but well executed dramatic episode, and I especially liked the atmosphere of some shots, like Catchick reading the old court records or Kitaro's arrest in the opening. The visual style matched the content really well in those sequences, and that was all in keeping with this cour's more mature focus. Great stuff all around.

Mysteria Friends 3
Still good fun, though the production quality of this episode took a notable hit compared to the first two episodes. That's not to say it didn't still look good in moments when it counted, or that the background art has fallen in quality because it hasn't, but some of the extras in the crowd scenes seemed a little... Toei-ish, to coin a term. While I'm a little disappointed since a lot of what this series has going for it is the visual splendor that made the first two episodes so enjoyable, I do like that they actually added a character to the show that was fun for this episode in the extravagant Miranda-sensei. Some funny meta humor about gacha and RPG conventions regarding costumes/armor and some zaniness helped this episode get by, but I hope this isn't the level of quality for the visuals I should expect for the rest of the run or my feelings about Mysteria/Manaria Friends are going to cool off something fierce.

Dororo 5
I don't know how to feel about this one... did they think they were being clever with the reveal at the end there? Keep in mind, the moment Mio worked at the army camp at night and brought back enough money and supplies to take care of the children, I immediately knew what she was doing. But for that to surprise Dororo, who's been shown to be savvy enough to run his own cons playing on the expectations that come with his age before, is a bit hokey. It kind of deflates the gravity of the moment when it's both so transparent what they're doing and it seems to shock people who should know better. Because if nothing else, while it's sad to see Mio go to such lengths for the children, it's obviously out of love even though given the tenor of the series I can only imagine this will end badly for her (because these kinds of things end badly for everyone in this series). As for Hyakkimaru, I feel they're kind of misfiring on his growth through weakness. Making him vulnerable doesn't mean we automatically care about him, and because a lot of the conflict inside him is still internalized because he's mute and doesn't communicate in any meaningful way, it's hard to grasp exactly what goes through his mind except for the most basic of emotions. This is why treating him as a kind of avatar of destiny like the possessed sword story did worked better, as he was not the core focus of that story but rather the plot device that brought it to his conclusion. As of right now, he's not expressive enough to be the focus of the narrative, and it's the other characters who feel like they get short shrift in comparison, especially when elements of their character that could be explored get held back for the sake of "shock value."

Mob Psycho 100 II 5
I don't really think there's much I can say about this episode that hasn't already been said by basically everyone here who's already seen it, but this was a very enjoyable watch even if it feels clearly rushed from a narrative standpoint. I'm not one to enjoy watching someone suffering in a very Flowers of Evil kind of way, but I think the catharsis of the latter half of the episode doesn't end up matching up to Mob's suffering depicted in the first half because they have to truncate it for the sake of getting through this entire section within Mogami's world in one episode. There's bit of direction and some disturbingly creative imagery used as a sort of shorthand to get across some of the ideas as best as they can, but the bullying section crescendos way too quickly to have the impact it could have. That said, I'm not really all that disappointed given what we received in the second half of the episode. While not perhaps my favorite sequence throughout Mob in general, I think it was an exceptionally creative one given the general palette and style of the environment, which doesn't lend itself to these kinds of spectacle fights as well as some other moments in the series have in the past. It was also interesting to see Mob have to take on a, well... mob of enemies at once rather than face off against one or a handful of opponents at once. In that way, the fight felt fairly different overall. Quite the success and a good end to this two-parter, though maybe not as emotionally resonant as it could've been. Still, I'll take the animation extravaganza in exchange for the narrative shortcomings. I'm curious where ONE plans to take this experience from here, as I get the feeling Mob is going to be a lot less accepting of people using him from here on out.

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Golden Wind Vento Aureo 18
Well, I'm glad they managed to wrap up the stuff with Babyface as quickly as they did. Hilarious BS aside in regards to using the bike in that fight, Giorno once again showing how merciless he is when he decides to wipe someone out, though I can't say Melone didn't deserve it. Regardless, I'm glad we got on to the next fight so quickly, as White Album seems to be one of the cooler stands in the series so far. Instead of being a remote entity, White Album seems to be more like an accessory, acting as a set of armor that can manipulate the temperature of things around it to create ice it can maneuver through. It has some fairly interesting functions that I think will lead to a pretty entertaining battle, specifically because we've reached Venice now. I do have to wonder with the series only being halfway through and the Hitman Team being close to wiped out what the second half of Golden Wind has in store, but I'm sure reaching the boss is only the beginning of everyone's troubles.

Kaguya-sama: Love is War 5
This has to be my favorite episode in the series thus far. It helps that we're starting to see these characters break out of the molds that defined them in the earlier parts of the series, but I feel that the segments we're getting into now are ones that seem to lend themselves to Hatakeyama's talent as a director more than the somewhat "sitcom"-styled episodes of the earlier episodes (the ones that take place in a single, plan location and sometimes don't lend themselves to much creative visualization to accompany the witty banter). Basically every sequence this week felt like something new or an improvement upon an older skit, both in terms of the writing and the directing, and the result is the Kaguya-sama finally feeling like its living up the potential of the premise at last. It may have taken a little while to reach this point, but I think the latter half is going to be something special if it's reached this level over the rocky first few episodes. I hope Ishigami is going to bring some fresh new energy to the proceedings now that the Kaguya-sama's firing on all cylinders!
 
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Very much appreciated. They sound promising
DTL's thing is recommending bad anime, usually. But GTO is an anime classic, and honestly Active Raid is FAR better than most of the anime community gives credit. It's basically Power Rangers/Super Sentai crossed with being a cop, and it was written by Naruhisa Arakawa, a talented writer who wrote a number of the better Super Sentai series.

I don't feel comfortable interacting with most Shield Hero fans. My friends who watch? Sure. But I have no interest in conversing with the gremlins who just want to "stick it to the ESS JAY DUBYAS".
 
I don't feel comfortable interacting with most Shield Hero fans. My friends who watch? Sure. But I have no interest in conversing with the gremlins who just want to "stick it to the ESS JAY DUBYAS".
Sounds like your friends understands the show's problems but will enjoy it for what it can do where, yeah, people like the one in the tweet makes you question the shows popularity.