Anthem Review Thread

[Firefly]

Some of the things you read makes you really question the design direction and playtesting.
I mean come on.. in a looter shooter..

https://www.polygon.com/reviews/2019/2/20/18232256/anthem-review-pc-xbox-one-ps4-bioware

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Amount of loading screens is awful but it is fair to point out here that going into and out of the Forge is almost instant on PC compared to the demo. 1-2 secs max.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Some of the things you read makes you really question the design direction and playtesting.
I mean come on.. in a looter shooter..

https://www.polygon.com/reviews/2019/2/20/18232256/anthem-review-pc-xbox-one-ps4-bioware

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Wow, and I thought getting kicked out of the menu screen when you land at a new destination in Destiny was annoying.

 

[Bold One]

You talk like you can change how you look in destiny, what game are you playing? There is no transmog in destiny and you are stuck with the shitty visual that the gear you need has. In anthem you can change material, paint and vynil and you won't ever find someone who looks like you, yes we need more 3d geometry diversity and they need to implement them quickly, but just right now it's infinitely better than destiny.
You talk about changing load outs while its just weapons slots, it's not like you armor slots that change your playstyle expect one.
You have 3 specialisation choices and thats it, you can't mix match any talents or create builds in destiny.

You probably don't even have seen a masterwork/legendary piece if you think they are just numbers.

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Yes, you can change how you look in Destiny, what absurdity are you typing?

 

[ShadowAUS]

Some news about the Day 8 Patch from the OT. Full patch notes released, this part in specific is some good news; "For those of you who have been playing the Early Access version of the game, we wanted to let you know that a Day 1 Patch is on its way. The patch will deployed before worldwide launch. On February 22, 2019, the game will include the following updates and our Live Service officially begins."

Patch notes: https://www.ea.com/games/anthem/news/anthem-day-one-patch-notes

Here, for whoever can't access the link:

Spoiler: DAY-1 PATCH

For those of you who have been playing the Early Access version of the game, we wanted to let you know that a Day 1 Patch is on its way. The patch will deployed before worldwide launch. On February 22, 2019, the game will include the following updates and our Live Service officially begins.

High level fixes

• Decreased loading times for older disk drives
• Fixed many infinite loading screens
• Fixed multiple challenges not tracking properly
• A number of issues have been fixed that were causing players to disconnect or crash
• Weapons and gear now have numbers present for modifiers

General Fixes and Improvements

• Loot Reveal and Expedition Summary now correctly play during the end of expedition screen.
• The gather party mechanic has been made more lenient in a number of situations
• At the end of expedition screen players will no longer get stuck on "Recording Victories" or "Skipping All".
• Game no longer hangs in Javelin menu when unlocking the second, third or fourth javelin
• During the mission "What Freelancers Do" dying after killing Junkmaw & freeing Arcanists leaves you unable to progress, this has been fixed
• Challenges now unlock for players at the correct levels
• Fixed some camera issues during cutscenes
• Legendary Contracts can now be accepted from the Social Hub contract board
• Some enemies have had their shield values decreased
• Loot now properly drops for players who are downed
• The texture quality on the NPC Prospero has been improved
• Final boss of strongholds now drop loot instead of only being shown on the end of expedition screen
• Fixed the time outs on echoes and relics to prevent griefing and to handle disconnections properly
• Players can no longer fall through the floor during the 3rd trial in the Fortress of Dawn
• Completing the tutorial expedition will now show the correct Ranger appearance
• After disconnecting, rejoining an expedition will now place you back into a squad if you were in one previously
• Corrected an issue where players could not interact with each other in the launch bay in certain circumstances
• Corrected an issue during the Mission "Bad Deal" where outlaws won't spawn, blocking progress
• The start of expedition screen has been improved
• Addressed a variety of situations where killing enemies does not properly progress world events
• Opening a chest now increments Tomb of the Legionnaire progress for all squad members present
• Scar snipers can no longer shoot through Storm Shield
• Corrected an issue where players would get stuck on the end of expedition screen in some situations
• Players will no longer get disconnected if joining the "Finding Old Friends" mission while the cinematic is playing
• Addressed a number of situations where players can get stuck on the environment in the launch bay
• Increased the damage of the electric status effect
• Corrected an issue where the Shield of Dawn could be crafted with less materials then intended in some situations
• The Platinum Mission feat now grants completion as intended
• Status effects can more reliably be applied to Titans
• Fixed loading animations on Marksmen Rifles
• Players can now access the Vault from the Forge
• Swimming into jellyfish underwater no longer leaves a visual effect stuck on players.
• Idle animations will no longer sync up over time in the Launch Bay
• Haluk is no longer dual-wielding canes in the epilogue scene
• Corrected an issue where players could not interact with each other in the launch bay in certain circumstances
• Fixed an issue that could cause players in the launch bay to have identical emotes and be unable to use them
• Interceptor melee ability animations will no longer stretch out in certain situations
• Corrected an issue where the default Ranger appearance doesn't preview in the forge in some situations
• All animations now play as intended in the Forge
• Players can now enter the Tomb of Gwanes while in a party
• The default Javelin wear state has been changed from "Dirty" to "Old"
• Sentinel Loyalty 2 text no longer incorrectly states that it will lead to a larger vault
• Picking up ammo from the ground now properly gives you 30% of that ammo back into both the current magazine and the maximum spare ammo
• Fixed a bug where some global (Javelin Icon) inscription bonuses were not being properly applied to the Javelin and other gear/weapons.
• Fixed some issues that could cause the Armor Pip count on the UI to break and not display properly

Strongholds

• Fixed an issue that would cause a Stronghold server crash after defeating the last boss
• Temple of Scar - Players can no longer get stuck in the mined tunnel in the explosives room
• Temple of Scar - Players can no longer be blocked from entering the explosives room due to fog wall
• Fixed Tyrant Mine so people that join the stronghold in-progress do not end up locked away from their team
• Adjusted lighting in Tyrant Mine underwater section to make it easier to navigate to the exit
• The Swarm Tyrant will no longer get stuck in the side cave entrances in some situations
• Corrected an issue where players would spawn into different areas of the Tyrant Mine in certain situations
• Implemented more safeguards to stop players from going AFK in Strongholds

Challenges

• Only Masterwork items can now be used to progress Masterwork challenges as intended
• Corrected an issue where some Challenges track progress simultaneously instead of incrementally, as intended. (ex: Blast Missile I and then Blast Missile II instead of both incrementing at the same time

Gear and Weapons

• After having 1st pilot unlock suit after tutorials, creating a new pilot and going to forge no longer causes load screen hang
• Ice damage bonuses are now correctly applied on ice gear
• Suit-wide bonuses from inscription are now functioning properly
• Players can no longer salvage equipped items
• Javelin specific gear and/or weapons are no longer able to be used on javelins they aren't intended for
• Corrected an issue where in some circumstances Masterwork Components do not have any inscriptions
• The Endless Siege Masterwork Autocannon no longer displays a damage increase of 0% in its tooltip
• Suit-wide specific weapon ammo bonuses coming from infusions are now correctly applied
• A Network Error Message no longer appears when opening an item chest in the second tutorial
• Colossus shoulder gear will now share the appearance of the rest of the javelin as intended
• Deadeye has increased spare ammo 10 -> 20
• Cloudburst has had increased damage 16.3 -> 21
• Torrent has had increased damage 22.2 -> 28.6
• Lightning Strike's pre-visualization will now accurately depict that the explosion snaps to the ground.
• (Ranger) Inferno Grenade base damage 130 -> 175
• (Interceptor) Cryo Glaive base damage 20 -> 50
• (Storm) Living Flame base damage 50 -> 60
• (Storm) Glacial Beam base damage 150 -> 120
• (Storm) Arc Burst secondary damage 100 -> 150
• (Ranger) Pulse Blast base damage 225 -> 300, and now deals extra damage to Shields (previously did extra damage to Armored).
• (Ranger) Blast Missile now properly scales up in damage as the item level increases
• (Interceptor) Melee attacks now have some minor resistance penetration
• Large Area of Effect abilities will better register multi-kill activities for challenges and medals
• Spark Dash functionality has been significantly improved when the target enemy is at a different height (above/below) the Interceptor.
• Several gear pieces that had missing primer or detonator icons have been fixed.
  • Interceptor
    • Tempest Strike - Detonator Icon
    • Spark Dash - Detonator Icon
    • Venom Spray - Primer Icon
    • Detonating Strike - Primer Icon
  • Colossus
    • Lightning Coil - Detonator Icon
    • Shock Coil - Primer Icon
    • Flamethrower - Primer Icon
• Several improvements have been made to ensure gear use on PC prioritizes turning the Javelin towards the reticle when used rather than casting in front of the Javelin's current direction.

Javelins

• The Colossus javelin is now able to activate its shield more quickly after using an ability or firing a weapon
• The Storm javelin now reacts to getting hit when its shields are up
• Fixed an exploit that allowed the Storm's ultimate attack to be used more times than intended
• The Colossus exo can now shield and revive at the same time
• Interceptor Combo Aura has been increased in power and now has a damage over time component
• Ranger melee now has a cooldown when striking in the air
• The Target Beacon ability now correctly seeks targets
• Spark Dash and Venom Spray now target based on player cursor instead of character facing. This should also improve the travel path of Spark Dash.
• The Colossus will no longer be knocked out of the sky in some situations when the attack was blocked by their shield

Combos + Status Effects

• Combo indicator icons above creatures now are correctly removed when detonated.
• When a Storm detonates an electric status effect the chained electric effect now correctly deals damage.
• Combo damage now penetrates resistances

Crafting

• Non-Masterwork materials purchased from the crafting store now show as their proper rarity instead of incorrectly showing as Masterwork
• A number of javelin components that had different icons for their recipes and the actual items are now the same
• The Battle Cry gear recipe now has the correct description
• Fixed Spark Beam gear having the wrong description when being crafted
• Crafting recipes are now sorted alphabetically
• The items in the crafting store are now sorted by type to be clearer

Controls

• Additional Mouse and Keyboard control improvements have been made

UI

• Some conversations were not popping up the reputation points post conversation completion, this has been fixed
• The squad screen now displays the correct information for each player
• Fixed a number of issues where subtitles will no longer get stuck on the screen after dialogue has finished as often
• Settings should no longer reset upon exiting and restarting the game on Xbox One
• Motion blur can now correctly be turned off
• The Electric Status Effect now shows scaled damage properly
• An option has been added to hide the Squad Member HUD
• The edge of the compass will now pulse to indicate enemy locations
• A notification has been added in Fort Tarsis if a player's vault is at the cap of 250 items
• On the "Repair the Strider" step of "A Cry for Help" the search radar has been adjusted to correctly lead the player to all 4 tools
• Primer and Detonator icons have been added to all Interceptor gear
• Corrected a user interface issue where a player's ultimate would show as available when it isn't
• Toggling the HDR option now properly prompts the Apply Changes button
• Player banners should now display correctly
• Camera shake slider has been added to settings menu
• Players may now track 10 challenges instead of 5
• An option to adjust screen boundaries on consoles has been added
• Changing a player banner through the banner menu now properly saves the selection
• Health, cooldowns, and key bindings now light up on supported keyboards
• Players will now receive more clear messaging when a squad is disbanded or are kicked from a squad
• Squad leaders will no longer always show as ready
• The icon for players in a downed state will no longer appear in cutscenes
• Cypher Annotations will now appear for more than one player if they are looking at it simultaneously
• Removed mentions of respawning on the player UI when they die in a restricted respawn area
• The Player Banner now updates immediately when updated from the squad screen
• Fixed a number of situations where a combo will trigger but no combo floating text appears
• Pressing esc to pass a notification screen no longer opens up the in-game menu
• Quick chat messages will no longer appear from an ignored player
• Removed a message from the mailbox which incorrectly stated that messages will be removed after 3 days
• A number of inscription icons have been updated to properly reflect whether they are Javelin specific or not
• Corrected an issue where players could not change loadout names on PC
• Players no longer need to exit and re-enter the forge for loadout names to update
• The on-screen VOIP indicator which shows a player speaking will no longer be active if that player is muted

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[GameShrink]

There's no excuse for using terms like SJW or supporting a white person using the n-word in the way PDP did.

We're trying to build a community that stands against these things, I thought?

This is not about "difference of opinion".

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This topic is about anthem reviews.

Your post is supporting a YouTuber who posts SJW labeled videos. There is no conversation to be had.

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Actually, my post is defending someone who chose to post an Anthem review in the Anthem review topic and got jumped on by people who aren't 100% on board with the reviewer's politics.

And since when is SJW a term that we've stopped embracing? I'd still gladly identify as an SJW, since the term itself doesn't read as derisive and ends up coming off as empowering (we are, after all, people who fight for social justice).

 

[Zaheer]

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Lmao, this dude is too goddamn old for this shit.

 

[Landford]

Listening to that SkillUp review has solidified a lot of thoughts I have since the start of the game, mainly how stitched together all the gameplay systems are. I came to the conclusion that this game cannot be salvageable. I mean, it can, but it would mean such a complete overhaul of every single thing in the game right now that would essentially be a new game, and I doubt EA is going to let Bioware do it.

 

[Wednesbury]

The visual identity of Destiny is so important. Each enemy race is so visually distinct and recognizable. (Except Scorn cause they are basically Zombie Fallen) I can't tell you what the enemy races look like in Anthem after watching hours of gameplay.

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Agreed, some of my fave things about Destiny enemies, is how their gaze will follow a grenade you throw. How Vex will hunker down to protect their crit spot, or how fallen will cheer and celebrate when they kill you. There may only really be 4-5 different types of of enemies, but they've been individually crafted and are memorable. I've yet to experience that with the enemies of Anthem.

 

[ParanoidRED]

That skill up review was depressing

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Yeah that's the way i fell as well

Welp, at least i got Apex if i end up hating Anthem

 

[jviggy43]

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Listening to that SkillUp review has solidified a lot of thoughts I have since the start of the game, mainly how stitched together all the gameplay systems are. I came to the conclusion that this game cannot be salvageable. I mean, it can, but it would mean such a complete overhaul of every single thing in the game right now that would essentially be a new game, and I doubt EA is going to let Bioware do it.

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His point about this game being so poor after 6 years and thus 6 weeks of new events and updates will hardly do anything to fix the foundational problems was salient. This game had so much potential. I hope we get a book on what went wrong here.

 

[Landford]

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• Sentinel Loyalty 2 text no longer incorrectly states that it will lead to a larger vault

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Seriously. What the fuck. What the actual fuck.

 

[Strangelove_77]

So I guess most reviews are coming on Friday?

 

[ShadowAUS]

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• Sentinel Loyalty 2 text no longer incorrectly states that it will lead to a larger vault

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Seriously. What the fuck. What the actual fuck.

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Noticed that to did you? I'm still trying to process that one.

 

[Phantom]

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His point about this game being so poor after 6 years and thus 6 weeks of new events and updates will hardly do anything to fix the foundational problems was salient. This game had so much potential. I hope we get a book on what went wrong here.

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Dev probably got rebooted a couple of times to say the least. That and BioWare is pretty much lost.

 

[Dalik]

Yes, you can change how you look in Destiny, what absurdity are you typing?

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No you can't, the gear you use will be what you see on the character, you can't transmog the visual.

 

[TinfoilHatsROn]

Actually, my post is defending someone who chose to post an Anthem review in the Anthem review topic and got jumped on by people who aren't 100% on board with the reviewer's politics.

And since when is SJW a term that we've stopped embracing? I'd still gladly identify as an SJW, since the term itself doesn't read as derisive and ends up coming off as empowering (we are, after all, people who fight for social justice).

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In a thread filled with the stupidest takes you bring home the gold. Congratulations.

 

[darkwing]

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• Sentinel Loyalty 2 text no longer incorrectly states that it will lead to a larger vault

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Seriously. What the fuck. What the actual fuck.

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what does it mean??

 

[BIG J]

i sometimes really feel like im playing a different game. i agree that there is issues and no way in hell i would rate this game a 9 or 10 (probably a 7.5 just for the combat alone. higher if they are able to fix most of the issues such as frame rate optimization, load screens and a UI overhaul). I'm really loving the combat mechanics and really wished destiny went this route in regards to special abilities and ults.
i know its bad practice for having to wait for updates to make a game better but it seems like thats the age we live in (with respect to loot games)

 

[Landford]

what does it mean??

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What it is is that a message showed that when you reached the sentinel loyalty level 2, your Vault would have increased capacity.

What it tells me is that to this point in the game, they didnt know how the actual fucking progression worked, so they gave everyone the maximum amount of vault space and forgot to take out the texts that told you you were improving them.

 

[darkwing]

What it is is that a message showed that when you reached the sentinel loyalty level 2, your Vault would have increased capacity.

What it tells me is that to this point in the game, they didnt know how the actual fucking progression worked, so they have everyone the maximum amount of vault space and forgot to take out the texts that told you you were improving them.

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so this is a result of 6 years in development lol

 

[GameShrink]

In a thread filled with the stupidest takes you bring home the gold. Congratulations.

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Cool, so we're at unprovoked insults.

Worth noting that I also disagree with many of SkillUp's opinions, so why do you feel the need to be so hostile? Because I'm willing to watch his review of a game when it's posted in that game's review thread?

 

[Gatti-man]

The load times are not the whole issue, it's the existence of the loading screens and the frequency of said existence. The load times are a bit of a red herring in this regard.

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Anyone that expect a game to have zero loading isn't being realistic. The loading times and joining party loading are the big issues. Every game has loading I mean unless you consider static elevator scenes not loading or super long empty corridors not loading.

 

[ShadowAUS]

i sometimes really feel like im playing a different game. i agree that there is issues and no way in hell i would rate this game a 9 or 10 (probably a 7.5 just for the combat alone. higher if they are able to fix most of the issues such as frame rate optimization, load screens and a UI overhaul). I'm really loving the combat mechanics and really wished destiny went this route in regards to special abilities and ults.
i know its bad practice for having to wait for updates to make a game better but it seems like thats the age we live in (with respect to loot games)

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I fundamentally disagree with this concept, just because something is normal if that normal is obviously fucked it shouldn't be given a free pass or any pass at all. Consumers should be demanding more from these massive companies than Minimum Viable Products chucked out the door unceremoniously a year before it's even kinda ready.

 

[Gatti-man]

Lmao, are you the one trolling? You're not even attempting to understand the actual issue and getting mad over what amounts to 'comedic' word choice.

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Have you read the chain of replies? I'm very much understand and talking about issues.

 

[GamingRobioto]

The endgame of Forsaken was very very good, but it did take some consistent weeks of grinding old-ish content in the midway point. Not sure if that's expedited or not nowadays. It will certainly fill your fix. The raid was impeccable too if that's your thing.

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Forsaken is really good, skip the season pass though it's a slog.

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Thanks both. Was trying to decide whether to bother with the season pass or not. But it's a big ask when Forsaken costs £17.99 and with the season pass it costs £39.99, and that's on sale, it's very expensive.

I suppose I could always get it at a later date if I'm still playing once I've played all the Forsaken content.

 

[BIG J]

I fundamentally disagree with this concept, just because something is normal if that normal is obviously fucked it shouldn't be given a free pass or any pass at all. Consumers should be demanding more from these massive companies than Minimum Viable Products chucked out the door unceremoniously a year before it's even kinda ready.

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oh i agree. just feels like thats where the industry is going. look at destiny 1,2 ; division.

just wished games came feature complete and major expansions acted more as ways to revitalize the game and not fix the game.

 

[Orangecoke]

Anyone that expect a game to have zero loading isn't being realistic. The loading times and joining party loading are the big issues. Every game has loading I mean unless you consider static elevator scenes not loading or super long empty corridors not loading.

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I think the big failing is they are static loading screens of old screenshots with a graphical treatment. They could have been really cool and softened the pain of their length and frequency.

 

[Chronos]

Some of the things you read makes you really question the design direction and playtesting.
I mean come on.. in a looter shooter..

https://www.polygon.com/reviews/2019/2/20/18232256/anthem-review-pc-xbox-one-ps4-bioware

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Baffling. There had to be something wrong with the engine or some other major technical hurdle to settle on this.

 

[Tahnit]

No you can't, the gear you use will be what you see on the character, you can't transmog the visual.

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There are lots of gear sets to choose from with randomized perks so you can really build out your guardian how you want.

Want fast handcannon reloads and ready speed? You can find a piece of gear that does that.

Regarding looks you can shader every single piece of gear seperately.

My guardian looks different than my friends guardian.

Not to mention the exotics really look way different.

Have you even played destiny 2?

 

[ShadowAUS]

I think the big failing is they are static loading screens of old screenshots with a graphical treatment. They could have been really cool and softened the pain of their length and frequency.

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My issues aren't so much the time, long loading screens are nothing new, it's the amount of them that kills all momentum. Also agree with the static loading screens with a boring screenshot making it feel 10x longer and therefore 10x worse.

 

[Tahnit]

Thanks both. Was trying to decide whether to bother with the season pass or not. But it's a big ask when Forsaken costs £17.99 and with the season pass it costs £39.99, and that's on sale, it's very expensive.

I suppose I could always get it at a later date if I'm still playing once I've played all the Forsaken content.

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Forsaken comes with all the previous dlc.

 

[GamingRobioto]

Forsaken comes with all the previous dlc.

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All the previous DLC from base game is, but there is another Season Pass for the Forsaken DLC which costs £29.99 or is currently on sale for £19.99 - on top for the cost of buying Forsaken itself.

 

[Dalik]

There are lots of gear sets to choose from with randomized perks so you can really build out your guardian how you want.

Want fast handcannon reloads and ready speed? You can find a piece of gear that does that.

Regarding looks you can shader every single piece of gear seperately.

My guardian looks different than my friends guardian.

Not to mention the exotics really look way different.

Have you even played destiny 2?

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Yes i have completed every non forsaken raids on prestige and no, you're missing the point, you can't change your visual armor on destiny, if you want that piece of shoulders with full resilience you have to wear that crap on your character, you can only shade color so much. Maybe you don't know what transmog means, i meant wearing a piece while looking like you wear another and still getting the stats benefits, that what you can do in 99% of MMOs right now and anthem has a kinda similar system, it chooses to separate visual and power.

 

[ShadowAUS]

what does it mean??

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What it says to me personally is that they were working on having more meaningful unlocks tied to rep like increased inventory space relatively recently but ran out of time or encountered an issue with the code or engine that they couldn't resolve in time. Generally, this would be a fairly simple thing to design and implement so I'm guessing it was the latter which kind of speaks to how tight the time budget was that relatively minor things had to be back burner to get the game in a shippable state.

Of course, this is all guessing though I would be willing to bet I'm hitting in the right ballpark. Though I'm also an idiot so... take anything I say with the Dead Sea's worth of salt.

 

[Slaythe]

There's no excuse for using terms like SJW or supporting a white person using the n-word in the way PDP did.

We're trying to build a community that stands against these things, I thought?

This is not about "difference of opinion". There's no side worth listening to when they start throwing around term like "SJW" and defending use of hateful speech.

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This topic is about anthem reviews.

Your post is supporting a YouTuber who posts SJW labeled videos. There is no conversation to be had.

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Actually, my post is defending someone who chose to post an Anthem review in the Anthem review topic and got jumped on by people who aren't 100% on board with the reviewer's politics.

And since when is SJW a term that we've stopped embracing? I'd still gladly identify as an SJW, since the term itself doesn't read as derisive and ends up coming off as empowering (we are, after all, people who fight for social justice).

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So out of curiosity I went to watch one of the videos from the thumbnails posted.

In the video SkillUp calls himself a "100% left wing SJW cuck, come at me alt-righters" so yes he's using the bad words but he identifies as such so... ?
And they're Australians, they mock Trump and do shitty impression of him so I guess that explains the other thumbnails.

I do remember he was pretty shitty about the Gilette ad, and he does stand by the fact that PdP didn't share white supremacy videos on purpose and just liked an anime review or something.

So those are things you are entirely free to disagree with. I don't agree with him at all on those stances but that doesn't mean I have to dismiss him entirely as a reviewer because on some topic he doesn't align with me. He has never tolerated harassment of any kind as far as i know. And I did see him take good stances multiple times about other topics.

Regardless, he's a great reviewer. And he's not "gamergate". There isn't anything political in his reviews.

 

[NaDannMaGoGo]

Some of the things you read makes you really question the design direction and playtesting.
I mean come on.. in a looter shooter..

https://www.polygon.com/reviews/2019/2/20/18232256/anthem-review-pc-xbox-one-ps4-bioware

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Man, stuff like that means the game would be broken at a fundamental level and essentially unplayable for me. Diablo 3 would've been drastically less enjoyable if it e.g. took a single second of loading to open the inventory.

Anything in the magnitudes of minutes is legit insane.

 

[zombiejames]

The SkillUp review is fantastic as usual, probably the best review channel on YouTube right now.

Didn't realise until just now that video is content is banned on Era, ok... Is there a list we can checked for banned content?

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It is? Um, ok.

 

[Tahnit]

All the previous DLC from base game is, but there is another Season Pass for the Forsaken DLC which costs £29.99 or is currently on sale for £19.99 - on top for the cost of buying Forsaken itself.

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I'd say that content has been worth it for me. The raid is interesting the forges are fun trying to get the weapon builds you want Ect. Can't wait for season of the drifter to start.

 

[bbq of doom]

Anyone that expect a game to have zero loading isn't being realistic. The loading times and joining party loading are the big issues. Every game has loading I mean unless you consider static elevator scenes not loading or super long empty corridors not loading.

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I never said that; I said it's the frequency of the loading and their opting to not mask it that's the issue. I'd reckon most would stop complaining if we can have some manner of inventory management during the load screen. Instead, it's just a screen--not a faux hallway, not ships flying, nothing--just a screen. And given the frequency, it's bad design.

Keep in mind, I say this after playing about 25, 30 hours. The load frequency absolutely negatively impacts the game and I don't think there's been a credible testament otherwise.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Some of the things you read makes you really question the design direction and playtesting.
I mean come on.. in a looter shooter..

https://www.polygon.com/reviews/2019/2/20/18232256/anthem-review-pc-xbox-one-ps4-bioware

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The problem is the load screens, not the design. It's also lacking a testing area, something that Monster Hunter: World and Warframe both have. In those games, that is basically the same process for changing your loadout.

This is not bad game design. I'm tired of people saying it is just because Destiny and Diablo let you change your loadout on the fly.

I agree, the load screen to the Forge is a pain in the ass and needs to be eliminated or reduced to the point of invisibility, if possible. But not being able to change weapons, gear, etc. while on a mission isn't bad just because you can't do a thing you want to do.

Improving load times and adding a practice range would fix this. I hope they do both!

 

[Sheepinator]

The SkillUp review is fantastic as usual, probably the best review channel on YouTube right now.

Didn't realise until just now that video is content is banned on Era, ok... Is there a list we can checked for banned content?

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I believe that's a setting the uploader uses to restrict embedding on other sites. If I include a YT vid here then find it's not playing, I just edit the post and leave the link.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6301625?hl=en

 

[Deleted member 21411]

So out of curiosity I went to watch one of the videos from the thumbnails posted.

In the video SkillUp calls himself a "100% left wing SJW cuck, come at me alt-righters" so yes he's using the bad words but he identifies as such so... ?
And they're Australians, they mock Trump and do shitty impression of him so I guess that explains the other thumbnails.

I do remember he was pretty shitty about the Gilette ad, and he does stand by the fact that PdP didn't share white supremacy videos on purpose and just liked an anime review or something.

So those are things you are entirely free to disagree with. I don't agree with him at all on those stances but that doesn't mean I have to dismiss him entirely as a reviewer because on some topic he doesn't align with me. He has never tolerated harassment of any kind as far as i know. And I did see him take good stances multiple times about other topics.

Regardless, he's a great reviewer. And he's not "gamergate". There isn't anything political in his reviews.

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I dont think hes an altright guy, but I do think hes becoming a gamer gate guy because of his audiance. There so too many examples of shit to count where hes been leaning towards that audiance and while I dont fully know his real views on these things I do think hes rather comfortable with the audiance hes grown and wants to keep going in that direction

I did have to unfollow after fucking this though

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What the fuck did that have to with gaming other than preaching to that audiance

And yeah it's his brother but it's their shared channel

 

[Tahnit]

Yes i have completed every non forsaken raids on prestige and no, you're missing the point, you can't change your visual armor on destiny, if you want that piece of shoulders with full resilience you have to wear that crap on your character, you can only shade color so much. Maybe you don't know what transmog means, i meant wearing a piece while looking like you wear another and still getting the stats benefits, that what you can do in 99% of MMOs right now and anthem has a kinda similar system, it chooses to separate visual and power.

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But you can still customize your look. You may not have transmog but you can design a look for your guardian.

 

[Deleted member 29249]

Thanks both. Was trying to decide whether to bother with the season pass or not. But it's a big ask when Forsaken costs £17.99 and with the season pass it costs £39.99, and that's on sale, it's very expensive.

I suppose I could always get it at a later date if I'm still playing once I've played all the Forsaken content.

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If you plane to raid it might be worth the pass but the "black armory" stuff is an unfun slog. Forsaken in great and you will prob get your full before you even get to the black armory stuff (starts at 600 but really should be 630 to start it).

 

[Anton Sugar]

I dont think hes an altright guy, but I do think hes becoming a gamer gate guy because of his audiance. There so too many examples of shit to count where hes been leaning towards that audiance and while I dont fully know his real views on these things I do think hes rather comfortable with the audiance hes grown and wants to keep going in that direction

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Yup, I noticed this a while ago. The way they throw around "triggered" like it's a huge joke, the way they use SJW in the pejorative, unironically, as well as where they landed on some major issues (PDP).

I honestly really enjoyed their reviews but don't want to give them the audience, so fuck them. There are still plenty of good critics out there.

 

[Bold One]

I think we can all agree that Laymen gaming is clickbait trash. Not worthy of a click.

 

[Amnixia]

Oh wow, it is actually at a 65 on OC.

 

[Amnixia]

I think we can all agree that Laymen gaming is clickbait trash. Not worthy of a click.

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They also are part of the whole "sjws are ruining videogames" crowd.

Fuck 'm.

 

[ReginaldXIV]

No you can't, the gear you use will be what you see on the character, you can't transmog the visual.

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There are whole sets of gear for transmoging in Destiny 2. You meld the light of other gear in to them so then you can use them properly.

 

[Deleted member 5864]

This is not bad game design. I'm tired of people saying it is just because Destiny and Diablo let you change your loadout on the fly.

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The UI to do these things is 100% bad design. UI is atrocious.

And people keep saying this game is more akin to Diablo than Destiny when the comparison was brought up. Fans and the developers themselves keep namedropping Diablo, so either specify exactly what they mean by that, or don't do it at all. The game is a loot game. It belongs to a genre, and while differentiation and innovation will be supported, just being different by itself doesn't immediately excuse some bad decisions. But really, people keep mentioning Diablo while propping up this game and probably should stop then, including devs. It's nothing like Diablo. The loot is not cosmetic, you can't equip on the fly, bosses apparently have no loot tables, it's not a set driven game, there is not as much variety and certainly there aren't unique modifiers to items to compare it. Loot rarity is gated by levels as well (according to GB) unlike Diablo where there are low level leendaries and set pieces.

So, OK, it's nothing like Diablo so people and developers should stop saying it. But it's also a rather poor, or content lacking example of a looter compared to the staples in the genre.