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Anybody else not like this trend of pre-E3 leaks and announcements?

Superking

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Oct 25, 2017
3,622
I'm really not liking this trend that's been present for the past few years and seemingly only getting worse. In the good old days, everyone would wait patiently until the moment the big 3 (and then followed by the subsequent largest publishers) press conferences, and not a moment before that. Now, we're starting to get not just leaks, but intentionally planned announcements and trailers well before E3 proper. How is anybody happy with these turn of events?

I mean, sure, you could argue that now you don't have to wait an extra week or two to see something you've been dying to see. But then by that logic, why have any set days for E3 at all? Hell, we can extend that rationale to Christmas as well. Why not start sending out presents two weeks before the 25th of December? Of course nobody would argue for such a thing because IT'S DUMB. Yet, people are totally fine with the idea of games being unveiled weeks in advance of E3. I mean, that's like half the fun and excitement of E3, imo. If you knew what your present was way before you opened it, wouldn't it be far less enjoyable when you do finally open it?

What's wrong with tradition, I ask?
 
SageShinigami

SageShinigami

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Oct 27, 2017
30,474
This OP proves people really equate "surprise" announcements to Christmas. It's not really a present when I had to spend sixty bucks on it.

I think we're way too obsessed with surprises. To me the surprise should be gameplay and story, not the existence of a game itself. I'd rather companies tell you what they're working on, if they'll be at E3, and anything like that WAY in advance.

Think about it: almost all the "leaks" have given us no gameplay. You know Odyssey is happening, but what's the world look like? You got a two second clip. Can you really not be excited to see the game in full?
 
Get_crazy

Get_crazy

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Oct 28, 2017
657
I'm with you, it (the leaks) spoils the surprise and kinda deflate the E3 hype for me.

Weird thing is I used to like those pre-E3 leaks/rumours but now I just wish we get all those things during E3 to be like:

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rochellepaws

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's nice that E3 is a 2 week event now, more coverage for more games rather than some flying under the radar with the overload from conferences.
 
Much

Much

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Feb 24, 2018
6,067
Seeing it in the moment at a presentation is so much better than seeing a text-post on confirmation of a game.
 
Thorrgal

Thorrgal

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Oct 26, 2017
12,338
Oblivion said:
I'm really not liking this trend that's been present for the past few years and seemingly only getting worse. In the good old days, everyone would wait patiently until the moment the big 3 (and then followed by the subsequent largest publishers) press conferences, and not a moment before that. Now, we're starting to get not just leaks, but intentionally planned announcements and trailers well before E3 proper. How is anybody happy with these turn of events?

I mean, sure, you could argue that now you don't have to wait an extra week or two to see something you've been dying to see. But then by that logic, why have any set days for E3 at all? Hell, we can extend that rationale to Christmas as well. Why not start sending out presents two weeks before the 25th of December? Of course nobody would argue for such a thing because IT'S DUMB. Yet, people are totally fine with the idea of games being unveiled weeks in advance of E3. I mean, that's like half the fun and excitement of E3, imo. If you knew what your present was way before you opened it, wouldn't it be far less enjoyable when you do finally open it?

What's wrong with tradition, I ask?
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I think times change and now is so easy to leak stuff that companies are gonna start to move away from the E3 model, and announce games somewhere else.

Sony's 2018 E3 model is what I foresee
 
i-hate-u

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Oct 25, 2017
6,374
I absolutely hate that Sony came out and spoiled their conference themselves weeks before the show. Like, beyond the said 4 titles, where is the hype for Sony's show? It reeks of them saying that we don't have a lot to show outside of the 4 WWS titles, we wanted you to know that.
 
SMD

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Oct 28, 2017
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Oblivion said:
I'm really not liking this trend that's been present for the past few years and seemingly only getting worse. In the good old days, everyone would wait patiently until the moment the big 3 (and then followed by the subsequent largest publishers) press conferences, and not a moment before that. Now, we're starting to get not just leaks, but intentionally planned announcements and trailers well before E3 proper. How is anybody happy with these turn of events?

I mean, sure, you could argue that now you don't have to wait an extra week or two to see something you've been dying to see. But then by that logic, why have any set days for E3 at all? Hell, we can extend that rationale to Christmas as well. Why not start sending out presents two weeks before the 25th of December? Of course nobody would argue for such a thing because IT'S DUMB. Yet, people are totally fine with the idea of games being unveiled weeks in advance of E3. I mean, that's like half the fun and excitement of E3, imo. If you knew what your present was way before you opened it, wouldn't it be far less enjoyable when you do finally open it?

What's wrong with tradition, I ask?
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If you equate marketing to presents, I don't think the problem is with leaks.
 
daegan

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Oct 27, 2017
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No. There's simply so much going on that stuff is going to leak out; when they do it lets me wonder how a game is going to be rather than if it exists at all. I'm not saying I want to know everything in advance either - surprises are fun - but this isn't a book or a movie or a game, it's a marketing campaign.
 
Noppie

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Oct 27, 2017
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3 days of reveals --> games get buried, less attention for individual games
2 months of reveals --> everything gets a spotlight, we know what is coming, investors are happy
 
MaitreWakou

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Oblivion said:
In the good old days, everyone would wait patiently until the moment the big 3 (and then followed by the subsequent largest publishers) press conferences, and not a moment before that.
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This is not true.

And if you don't want leaks a week before E3, why do you come here ? No need to shut down internet. Just shut down ResetEra until E3. Come back to discuss E3 when it's over.

I mean, I swear that the casual crowd never heard of Starfield, of Star Fox Grand Prix. Those games will be huge surprises for 90% of the public when they will get revealed.

And for official announcements before E3, it's not like it's the biggest ones. Or sometimes it's the weirdest ones.
For instance, to reveal Rage 2 before E3 is a smart move imo. When it was leaked and even revealed, people kept shitting here and on twitter "nobody wants a sequel to that", and people would have thought the same during the conference if it was revealed at Bethesda E3. Now, people have seen gameplays, with some times they have accepted the fact that "damn, even if it's named Rage... it looks awesome", and now they are hyped for Bethesda conference in order to see more.
 
Midas

Midas

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Oct 27, 2017
5,535
Another year, same threads. :lol

Yes, you are alone!

I mean, the surprise element is nice. But if it's such a big problem for you, just stay way for a week or two.
 
LabRat

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Mar 16, 2018
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it's been like that for years, if you don't want to get spoiled don't go on the internet 2 weeks before e3 starts. i'm not worried, we don't know what REmake 2 will play like, we don't know what Cyberpunk 2077 looks like, same with Death Stranding and TLOU2. E3 will be full of surprises i'm sure even with those leaks.
 
GongagaSOLDIER

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't really mind, either way the games are being revealed. I'm sure the shows will still serve the purpose they always have without adding unnecessary bloat to an often already long conference. I don't especially see the problem.
 
Kinoli

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Nov 27, 2017
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SageShinigami said:
This OP proves people really equate "surprise" announcements to Christmas. It's not really a present when I had to spend sixty bucks on it.

I think we're way too obsessed with surprises. To me the surprise should be gameplay and story, not the existence of a game itself. I'd rather companies tell you what they're working on, if they'll be at E3, and anything like that WAY in advance.

Think about it: almost all the "leaks" have given us no gameplay. You know Odyssey is happening, but what's the world look like? You got a two second clip. Can you really not be excited to see the game in full?
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A recent example for me of a game which its announcement surprised me was Watch Dogs. A trailer with no name, just an intro and a bit of gameplay. For me, it was one of the best E3 presentations ever because we didn't have any info of anything at that time.

For example, the new Assassin's Creed is set in Greece because a tweet from Ubi said it. And because of that, for me, loses it's impact.

2015 I called it the E3 of the Dreams because they announced Final Fantasy XV, the remake of Final Fantasy VII and Shenmue III. And we knew nothing. It was marvelous and enjoyable.

Obviously, not all presentations went well. WiiU was presented rushly and had to do an article explaining what what's new and what really was that. But for me, impact is part of E3, and each year is losing a bit of it.
 
KillLaCam

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Oct 25, 2017
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Idk if it's because the stream of leaks but this is the most excited I've been for an e3 since I was a kid.

I don't think they're negatively effecting anything for me. But some surprises would be good
 
Wispmetas

Wispmetas

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Oct 27, 2017
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I really don't have a problem with that, makes me more excited for E3 actually!

But I get it, if KH3 had been leaked back when it was revealed It wouldn't have been the same thing.
 
Yukinari

Yukinari

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Oct 25, 2017
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At this point its impossible to experience the same childlike wonder with E3 unless youre someone who does reaction videos. (Sorry Roger)

I get my moments but im not like screaming these days.
 
eXistor

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Oct 27, 2017
12,304
I love going in blind and not knowing a thing, that's kinda the whole point imo, but it's just about impossible to not get spoiled. If we know everything beforehand then it's gonna be very anticlimactic come E3 time. We might as well just cancel the whole thing if everyone's just posting trailers left and right and instead just make it a digital thing.
 
massoluk

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't mind, I just feel a bit sad for people that had to prep the presentation and now their moment in the spotlight was kinda spoiled a little. Lol
 
AxkilAvenger

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Apr 8, 2018
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Not to wine OP but I swear this thread got locked yesterday lol. Anyway I'm here a again with my 2 cents. Spoil it all like raw meat left on the counter. Leaks only build my hype for the actual reveal
 
artemis

artemis

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Oct 28, 2017
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Leaking megatons a few days prior to E3 sucks all the fun. But it's not the end of world, you can live with it.
 
Nugnip

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Oct 25, 2017
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I like it. I like having a bunch of cool surprises for a few weeks, and not everything stacked in a few days/hours. It also allows to pay more attention to each game, and not just have one quick kneejerk reaction and then immediately move on to the next game. It's great.

Edit : I guess I'm talking about early announcements. Leaks are a bummer.
 
Skyfireblaze

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Oct 25, 2017
11,257
I'm kind of with you and atleast as ERA goes I think there would be a very simple solution, make it that one month before E3 a third category is opened simply called "E3" that exists next to Gaming and Hangouts where all E3 leaks and rumors go so you can use the rest of ERA normally without spoiling themselves. Then after E3 merge "E3" with Gaming and be done with it.
 
Jackpot

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Oct 26, 2017
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Unless you have a presence in one of the big conferences, announcing your game just before E3 is the best move. There's been a drought in gaming news as all the publishers "save up" for E3. There are rumours flying about peaking everyone's interest. Media outlets are sniffing around for stories they can slap an E3 tag on. It's before everyone's gorged themselves on trailers for new AAA stuff (you never want to announce your game during the last day of E3).

You'd be crazy not announce it now.
 
jroc74

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Oct 27, 2017
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No I don't like it.

And the only way to combat it is to go on total media blackout. It's hard to do that.
 
Expy

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Oct 26, 2017
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The only way to stop leaks is for the content of the announcements to only exist in space-time at the start of E3.
 
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Superking

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Oct 25, 2017
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Jackpot said:
Unless you have a presence in one of the big conferences, announcing your game just before E3 is the best move. There's been a drought in gaming news as all the publishers "save up" for E3. There are rumours flying about peaking everyone's interest. Media outlets are sniffing around for stories they can slap an E3 tag on. It's before everyone's gorged themselves on trailers for new AAA stuff (you never want to announce your game during the last day of E3).

You'd be crazy not announce it now.
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But the problem of lesser known games not getting exposure has ALWAYS been a problem, at least as far back as when E3 was first created. I'm sure you had at minimum, at least 100 games per E3, and only a few dozen or so would get the bulk of press coverage, and it's always been like that. This isn't a new problem.
 
bunkitz

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Oct 28, 2017
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I dislike it for the most part, but some smaller stuff I don't mind. E3 is the biggest event of the year for me, and my favorite time of the year as well. The entire spectacle of watching the live stream and seeing things revealed for the first time is a lot of fun, so knowing things ahead of time (especially something that would matter to me a lot like Final Fantasy or Metal Gear, etc.) would sour the experience quite a bit.
 
cowbanana

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Feb 2, 2018
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An announcement is an announcement. I couldn't care less about where or when it happens. E3 isn't a religious moment for me. I'll take anything before, during or after the show.
 
Necromanti

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Oct 25, 2017
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None of it has been particularly exciting or surprising, so the only thing it has done is make me slightly worried that I'll have little to look forward to.
 

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SageShinigami said:
This OP proves people really equate "surprise" announcements to Christmas. It's not really a present when I had to spend sixty bucks on it.
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This.

I've always felt this whole concept of a "Gamer Christmas" to be nonsensical. It's a weekend of PR and Marketing messages from our favourite brands.

You aren't getting "presents" you are being shown products in a early state that you may want to buy. It's basically bunch of QVC streams.


When and where the information comes from means very little to me. The only benefit of E3 is that it is normally a huge info dump of what state games are in and how they are looking. Whether I know the game exists or not beforehand means very little.
 
Wololo

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This whole notion of e3 spoilers is the craziest thing I've heard since gameplay mechanics apparently became spoilers.
 
bitSS

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Even with all the leaks, this year is the most excited I've been for an E3. Last year I only had a Switch, but this time around I have a PS4 as well, so I have much more to look forward to. And I don't really care if a game gets leaked or not. First of all, it's not on my control. Secondly, it's a product from a company that wants my money for it, and I try to not romanticise that kind of "relationship" way too much. That, to me, seems the case here.
 
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