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Anyone here vote for Trump?
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1. The court uses "illegal immigrant" or "illegal alien." Not "illegals." Stop trying to justify your cruel language choices based on misleading legalese. I'm pretty sure you've broken some minor law before. Would you like it if I started calling you an "illegal"?
2. The Supreme Court is an institution that has ruled before that black people can't be citizens, and that segregation is legal. You really wanna use them as a moral arbiter?
Well that and less "illegal immigration" actually hurts the economy too as Alabama found out.
Having conservative political views is not an issue, and it should not be. Wanting a smaller, more efficient government is not in itself bad. Wanting tax cuts is not in itself bad. Wanting to reduce illegal immigration is not in itself bad. Being for a reduction in government spending is not in itself bad. Being for the right to bear arms is not in itself bad.
My issue isn't with conservatism – it is with the current American republican party and other far-right parties such as the Dutch PVV. These parties have taken conservative standpoints to cartoonish extremes and primarily rely on hate for 'the other'. Hate for immigrants. Hate for Muslims. Hate for African-Americans pointing out the existence of institutional racism through peaceful protest. Hate for the 'elite scientists' who point out that climate change is man-made. Hate for anyone who proposes anything that could possibly resemble any form of regulation on anything to do with guns. Hate for LGBTQ+-people fighting for their rights.
The republican party claims to be 'against identity politics', yet consistently engages in them through their fostering of hate for 'the other' and their push for legislation that allows discrimination against / actively discriminates against minorities.
Of course, not everyone who votes for the republican party actively hates all or any of those people or groups, but in voting for the republican party, you are voting for the party that actively feeds into this hate. You are voting for the party that will seek to actively push legislation that hurts the weakest among us so that they can cash in on that hate. Your vote for them is an acceptance of this hate. I don't feel that that is justifiable in any way.
At the same time, they also completely fail to propose any actual solutions to the problems they inflated, and some of their legislative proposals are in direct conflict with general conservative views. Take the border wall proposal for example. The republican party is against illegal immigration and against government spending, yet Trump's proposal to build a multibillion-dollar border wall that would do very little to actually stop illegal immigration is popular with republican party voters. This is the 'hate for the other' directly overriding a core conservative tenet.
So my problem isn't with conservative political views, it is with the American republican party and the way the thrive on hate. You voting for that party – even if you do it purely for a genuine conservative tenet you believe them to still uphold – indicates to me that you are willing to accept that hate, and that is not something I can just ignore.
My issue isn't with conservatism – it is with the current American republican party and other far-right parties such as the Dutch PVV. These parties have taken conservative standpoints to cartoonish extremes and primarily rely on hate for 'the other'. Hate for immigrants. Hate for Muslims. Hate for African-Americans pointing out the existence of institutional racism through peaceful protest. Hate for the 'elite scientists' who point out that climate change is man-made. Hate for anyone who proposes anything that could possibly resemble any form of regulation on anything to do with guns. Hate for LGBTQ+-people fighting for their rights.
The republican party claims to be 'against identity politics', yet consistently engages in them through their fostering of hate for 'the other' and their push for legislation that allows discrimination against / actively discriminates against minorities.
Of course, not everyone who votes for the republican party actively hates all or any of those people or groups, but in voting for the republican party, you are voting for the party that actively feeds into this hate. You are voting for the party that will seek to actively push legislation that hurts the weakest among us so that they can cash in on that hate. Your vote for them is an acceptance of this hate. I don't feel that that is justifiable in any way.
At the same time, they also completely fail to propose any actual solutions to the problems they inflated, and some of their legislative proposals are in direct conflict with general conservative views. Take the border wall proposal for example. The republican party is against illegal immigration and against government spending, yet Trump's proposal to build a multibillion-dollar border wall that would do very little to actually stop illegal immigration is popular with republican party voters. This is the 'hate for the other' directly overriding a core conservative tenet.
So my problem isn't with conservative political views, it is with the American republican party and the way the thrive on hate. You voting for that party – even if you do it purely for a genuine conservative tenet you believe them to still uphold – indicates to me that you are willing to accept that hate, and that is not something I can just ignore.
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People get the treatment they deserve. You know why niggers get followed around in stores? Because they steal shit. You know why sandmonkeys get banned from coming into the country? Because they blow shit up. You know why internet janitors get called cumdrunk pillowbiters? Because they do it for free.
With love from 9gag.
Go cry about it.
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Suck me, you dick-huffing faggot.
People get the treatment they deserve. You know why niggers get followed around in stores? Because they steal shit. You know why sandmonkeys get banned from coming into the country? Because they blow shit up. You know why internet janitors get called cumdrunk pillowbiters? Because they do it for free.
With love from 9gag.
Go cry about it.
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Ideas have labels. How am I supposed to identify something and communicate opinions without resorting to labels at all? It's literally impossible. Furthermore, if an idea is repulsive, my opinion is going to be appropriately magnified. Maybe it won't be hostile, but it's not going to be nice. In fact I'm not sure why you think you have a right to say whatever you want and not expect other people to have emotional or aggressive reactions to it.
I'm curious as to which politicians you'd like to jailed and why you voted for Brexit in the first place.
They were never here for a conversation. Let's move on and keep things positive even if that was a gross way to leave - they're gone now (thanks mods!)
pretty sure no. I read about it on gaf how some malicious ppl snuck in even during intial invites and were banned
Nah, saw some trolls getting banned in the past few days.
Hi. I never thought I had a right to say whatever I want without people being emotional or aggressive. I think it's a bit unfair to assume that. I also never said to never use ideas or labels. My point is that permanently labeling a large group of people and being hostile towards them will most likely maintain the current state of divisiveness. So we need to find a better way to communicate, that's all. Political parties love watching all of us argue and get nowhere while still getting tons of support and money.
I assume you can defend such an untenable position, especially now?
The image was horrendous, and I will see it in my nightmares tonight. On that note I'm not sure I appreciate one person representing all of us. Isn't that the sort of thing we're supposed to be again.
The reality of the situation is something we're supposed to be against? I don't know about that one.
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