Aonuma says that many of the younger staff on BOTW2 are playing and inspired by RDR2

Soj

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I'm not sure what the big deal is, both games do certain things very well. They could learn from each other. I'd have thought Zelda fans would just be upset Nintendo are making another BotW.
 

lunatique

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I wouldn't worry to much about it.

They're younger staff, they probably don't have any saying in the game's development and direction. It's all about the higher ups when it comes to the final decisions.
 

Aniki

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RDR2 is a great game and i hope they take a look at how Rockstar implemented random characters you could meet in the world. The stories they told through them were small but most of them felt unique and i didn't had the impression they were just unimportant filler material like in other open world games. When it comes to mission design though i hope they don't take any cues from them. I also hope they restrict fast traveling until late in the game like RDR2. I loved that i had to ride for long stretches. In BotW i didn't really use my horse that much.
 

fourfourfun

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What it hope from all this is how easy to pick up and play BOTW is. I don't want them to chase down a sluggish goal as their aim. Simply make more toys in the playground to use.
 
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Just as long as they don’t get inspired by their working conditions and overly long animation, controls and combat then that’s cool.

Would prefer a more constrained open world. Here’s hoping we can play as Zelda in this one.
 

doodlewhizz

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Some people here acting like the sequel is going to just be an exact replica of RDR2, rather than just taking inspiration from certain parts of the game
 

Sir Hound

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BOTW is my second favourite game ever and RDR2 is my second favourite experience (The Witcher 3 takes top spot for both) so if it means some of the latter leaking into the former I’m all in. This is the Zelda team, they’re not going to take inspiration in terms of the actual gameplay.
 

MadMod

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I hope they take the positives and not the negatives from that experience. Like the atmosphere, story, sense of environmental density etc. Not the clunky overdone animations and controls, lackluster combat and awful menus.
 

sappyday

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I hope they take the positives and not the negatives from that experience. Like the atmosphere, story, sense of environmental density etc. Not the clunky overdone animations and controls, lackluster combat and awful menus.
Funny enough Nintendo does the former of you state poorly, but does the latter pretty well sometimes
 

Toddhunter

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Oct 25, 2017
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Depends on the inspiration.
I'm not sure what the big deal is, both games do certain things very well. They could learn from each other. I'd have thought Zelda fans would just be upset Nintendo are making another BotW.
Exactly, I think playing RDR2 should be mandatory for anyone even thinking about trying to make an open world game.

There is just so much to learn about how not to go about it. Just imagine being a young developer, thinking about having access to the same amount of resources and knowing you couldn't possibly create something as slow, tedious and boring.

Well unless you worked for Bethesda of course.

You'd be extremely inspired to do better.
 

Yavga

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Legend of Zelda developers are pioneers, not copiers. If they are inspired by something I believe it’s for a damn good reason they’re inspired and we will love it. After BotW and basically every Zelda game I have 0 doubt they’re going to make another masterpiece.

The fact that’s it’s a sequel in the same engine is already the best first step they could take.
 

Hey

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Feb 19, 2018
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I was worried that it would be similar experience to the original game,but hearing this makes me sleep very good at night.
 

skeezx

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i mean, it's harder to find any 20-30 something involved in games that hasn't been playing RDR2 the past six months.
 

Ex-Actarus

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That looks more like a PR statement that anything else.

Nintendo are gameplay oriented first, no wat they would get inspiration from Rockstar.

Maybe from a Story prospective ? Nintendo can learn from that I reckon.
 

UltraMagnus

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People who worry about Nintendo taking note of industry leading games don't get it IMO.

Nintendo will always create a unique product simply because their philosophy in making games and how they operate is so radically different.

Splatoon is basically their take on online shooters ... there's nothing quite like it. Zelda BOTW they looked at Skyrim.

Quite frankly both of these have been such huge successes while still feeling not only very fresh put quite positively very energized. You get the sense Nintendo really got a jolt developing those games, whereas something like Skyward Sword felt tired.

Nintendo should actually look at doing this more often -- looking a popular game genres and putting their own spin on concepts like that. By the time the game gets out of the prototyping stages, Nintendo's already infused it with their own personality that it's never going to be a knock off.

You could force Nintendo to make their version of GTAV ... what you would get in the end after a 3 year development cycle would be very different from anything on the market.
 

Mistouze

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Can't wait to see what weird, tangential aspect of RDR2 will influence BOTW2.

Don't worry, this isn't going to turn the next Zelda into a Rockstar game.
 

monmagman

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I haven't played BoTW but I finished RDR 2 yesterday.......the best parts of the game were the often breath taking graphics and the narrative revolving around the character interplay.
Given the Switch doesn't do breath taking graphics and Link can't speak I wonder what they will draw from it for BoTW 2.........hopefully not the pointless crafting systems,painful animations or questionable gunplay that requires an auto-aim to get any enjoyment out of.
RDR 2 is the best game ever when you're not actually playing it,lol.
 

MaitreWakou

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I mean, if for BOTW they were inspired by Skyrim and Far Cry, then them being inspired by RDR2 isn't that surprising.
It's the last big open world game.
RDR 2 has a wonderful sense of scale and scenery. Just like BOTW.
BOTW 2 will keep the same vibe as the first one, no need to freak out.
Fucking resetera sometimes.
 

UltraMagnus

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Nintendo should draw inspiration from other games in the industry.

Splatoon and Breath of the Wild are massive successes for them, and both are driven by younger developers at Nintendo who aren't designing games with their hand stuck in the sand blocking out the rest of the industry.
 

Kinthey

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Oct 27, 2017
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People being upset that they're intrigued by one of the most impressive open worlds ever put into a videogame, lol.

It would be dumb to ignore it
 

Reinhard

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I sincerely hope the influences is kept to a minimal. RDR2 was one of the biggest disappointments. Poor/linear mission structure, horrible controls, overly long animations for everything to make it feel tedious, etc...
 

Aniki

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For me it was less than barebones with only a couple of acceptable npc.
Zelda was kinda of obnoxious...
That's one of the reasons i liked her character so much. She had a huge responsibility to shoulder but just wasn't able to fulfil her role. That's why she was always jealous of Link who didn't seem to have any problem becoming who he had to be. This game humanized her in a way past games didn't.
 

Mazzle

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Before BOTW they played Skyrim and? It turned out not to be a broken mess.
Nintendo knows what they are doing and what they have with BOTW.
Let them play RDR2, learn from it and don't repeat Rockstars mistakes
 

Firemind

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That's one of the reasons i liked her character so much. She had a huge responsibility to shoulder but just wasn't able to fulfil her role. That's why she was always jealous of Link who didn't seem to have any problem becoming who he had to be. This game humanized her in a way past games didn't.
They're flashbacks which had no bearing to the events after Link's awakening. That's the issue. Zelda played no part when you actually played the game and was just a deus ex machina to keep Ganon in check even though he had won. Zelda seems to play a more prominent role in the sequel, but that's not guaranteed. We all saw the BotW E3 trailer which implied a story heavy game.