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"Apex Legends Disappointment Signals Substantial Pain Ahead [for EA]"
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If you put out any Battle Royale game, you can expect most of the press about your game to be a death watch, no matter how popular or well-liked the game actually is.
To get from "Apex twitch numbers aren't as good as fortnite, the biggest game in the world" to "Apex is a flop and Respawns position is nearly as bad as Bioware's" is ridiculous
I think Respawn has been adamant about maintaining control over their Titanfall 3 turned Apex game. Part of the reason the monetization has remained cosmetic only, etc.
They had the entire gaming community by the balls and they blew it. I have never seen such an opportunity to dominate wasted. As soon as the game started snowballing, they should have pulled all resources from current projects and forced them to work on Apex legends against their will. I'm joking... partially.
Look... all I'm saying is they should've capitalized on that huge playerbase when they had the chance. Hell, they still have a chance, but they have got to be quick. GaaS games need to be quick with the updates nowadays. The playing field has changed over the last couple of years. If any other development team is watching this sinking Titanic, they need to learn from this.
Please be ready for success as much as you are ready for failure.
Look... all I'm saying is they should've capitalized on that huge playerbase when they had the chance. Hell, they still have a chance, but they have got to be quick. GaaS games need to be quick with the updates nowadays. The playing field has changed over the last couple of years. If any other development team is watching this sinking Titanic, they need to learn from this.
Please be ready for success as much as you are ready for failure.
Is it getting to a point where the income isn't worth the cost to keep it a team supporting it and the servers up?
I feel like when it comes to Twitch, there's a line of thought that if you aren't the #1 game then you're a massive failure with no hopes of being a profitable/successful game. I don't know how true that actually is.
I feel like when it comes to Twitch, there's a line of thought that if you aren't the #1 game then you're a massive failure with no hopes of being a profitable/successful game. I don't know how true that actually is.
For as much as underwhelming as the pass was , Apex has a solid offering in terms of mechanics . It's a shame to see player's attendance dwindle as it does because Apex truly brings something cool to the table. I hope it bounces back up just like For Honor did.
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Form my perspective, the game has a solid fanbase seems to be healthy and profitable. However, that is not enough for share holders and after, seemingly, Apex failed to be the next for Fortnite some corrections are expected for EA's (perceived) value.
its still the best br game around, when it comes to gameplay, how fun, and how polished it all is.
That being said, they are not keeping up with updates,. and the battle pass left a lot to be desired. There are only enough games of any BR that you can have before feeling burned, without new content
That being said, they are not keeping up with updates,. and the battle pass left a lot to be desired. There are only enough games of any BR that you can have before feeling burned, without new content
Looking over the article again, a big caveat to the data is the reliance on google interest ratings.
This simply isn't a fair comparison between titles. This data doesn't compare playership at all.
For instance, Fornite has far more reasons that people might want to google about it. It has more modes, features, obscure building strategies, and in particular it has monthly challenges for people to complete, with which, they commonly look up strategies.
A big testament to this is that even when Apex peaked, with more twitch viewership than Fortnite. There were still more people searching about Fortnite on google. If anything, this clearly demonstrates that google interest ratings don't predict the size of a games player base or popularity.
As another example of why this data is worthless. If we add in games that are very googleable (RPGs with lots of features, guides, builds, and reasons that players could google for information about the game), we get a stronger impression of how worthless the data really is. For instance, if we add Skyrim to the comparison, we can see that Skyrim has more people searching about it than Apex too. Does that mean we should believe that more people are playing Skyrim instead of Apex?
I'm not denying Apex's decline, and Respawn need to come forward and talk about how they plan on supporting the game in a much more tangible way than they have been thus far.
This simply isn't a fair comparison between titles. This data doesn't compare playership at all.
For instance, Fornite has far more reasons that people might want to google about it. It has more modes, features, obscure building strategies, and in particular it has monthly challenges for people to complete, with which, they commonly look up strategies.
A big testament to this is that even when Apex peaked, with more twitch viewership than Fortnite. There were still more people searching about Fortnite on google. If anything, this clearly demonstrates that google interest ratings don't predict the size of a games player base or popularity.
As another example of why this data is worthless. If we add in games that are very googleable (RPGs with lots of features, guides, builds, and reasons that players could google for information about the game), we get a stronger impression of how worthless the data really is. For instance, if we add Skyrim to the comparison, we can see that Skyrim has more people searching about it than Apex too. Does that mean we should believe that more people are playing Skyrim instead of Apex?
I'm not denying Apex's decline, and Respawn need to come forward and talk about how they plan on supporting the game in a much more tangible way than they have been thus far.
I'm still playing it every night, but to be honest as soon as something else comes out even remotely interesting to me I'll ditch it.
When other games offer both gameplay AND carrot on a stick, why settle for less?
I say that as someone who still prefers apex and plays it more than anything else right now. People expect more than they did when Quake was big. Otherwise we'd all still be playing Quake.
Love Apex. Play for at least 5 or 6 hours a week. Which is a lot for me. Maybe it's because I am old but I remember the days of just playing a multiplayer shooter for the fun. No loot. No progression. Very infrequent updates if any. The Fortnight generation have been spoiled. It's going to be hard for any company to match Epics support and update frequency of Fortnight. Thank you Unreal Engine!
It has amazing gunplay and movement.. what it needs is either:
A) new map
B) new locales/rotating locales
C) better cosmetics
D) new modes (pistol and snipers only? no specials? smaller map mode?)
E) quicker updates
A) new map
B) new locales/rotating locales
C) better cosmetics
D) new modes (pistol and snipers only? no specials? smaller map mode?)
E) quicker updates
that is so true. people dont seem to enjoy the gameplay anymore but just play for some lame ass stats and skins.
EA owns the Apex IP, they don't own FIFA or Madden.
Which means that they can lose the license at any time and this is a liability.
EA owning Apex means that no one can come and steal that IP from them easily.
It's more than just that. Even Quake had more than one mode and a good handful of maps. It gets boring when the content (not skins) is not there.
This would be amazing! And it would reignite this game as never before.
Overwatch does just fine with skins.
The skins in Apex are just not very good - and they are very expensive. Like, much more expensive than overwatch skins if you take into account that most are just recolors.
if the game is so important for EA maybe they should fund it a little so we get a meaningful update in a timely manner. Game didn't have anything new , no new game modes, no updates to the map. All we got was one extra character and possibly the worst battle pass that's ever made. No wonder everyone is abandoning it.
The game is still brand new, and content takes time to develop! Jesus, let's give Respawn some time before we declare the game dying.
Yeah the battle pass is a bit underwhelming, but the thing that matters, the core gameplay, is still head and shoulders above anything else in the genre.
Yeah the battle pass is a bit underwhelming, but the thing that matters, the core gameplay, is still head and shoulders above anything else in the genre.
In this case the article source is basically some person contributing to a finance site. EA's earnings are coming up, and they hope to profit before and after by encouraging a move in the direction they are already positioned.
Agreed. I enjoy the game, but after about 100 hours my friends and I have already scored countless wins. I personally feel that I need some extra hook at this point to keep me invested. Fortnite was good for that because the battle pass had cool looking skins and extras, along with in match challenges that were at the very minimum at least introducing a different way for you to engage with the game. The map would change, new items and weapons would get introduced to the sandbox or vaulted. Unfortunately the battle pass for Apex was a real snoozer that felt very much like a boring looking transaction, where as Fortnite's felt more like a whimsical invitation to something more.
No solo que kind of killed it for me. Also please don't give me any nonsense that its meant to be played as a team. Every BR mode since the genre existed has come with a solo que.
It's crazy that a dev which EA treats as an afterthought put out a free game with no fanfare that became an unexpected smash hit and it actually hurt them.
Still my favorite shooter to play with friends, but we play once or twice a week, if that. New content and a less boring, sluggish battle pass would help, but I'm also ... extremely happy with what the game is.
This article is silly. I don't think Google trends and Twitch are any sort of indication of how well the game is doing. The game is still great and still very new. Sure it could use certain additions to the game, but those will come eventually. I think there is some overreaction going on here.
I'll hop on and play every once and a while but I'm definitely past my peak interest. Still a great game though, love Respawn.
Yeah,
That seems pretty out there. The FIFA and Minecraft Twitch numbers are way below APEX.
Nothing looks healthy next to Fortnite.
Apex has more interest than CSGO, Overwatch, PUBG, etc...all of which are also CRUSHED by fortnite - fortnite has left humanity behind.
Apex will never have a meaningful season pass without solo que, its just not possible to make it interesting or to make you do anything 'fun' without messing up the squads goal of winning
Apex has more interest than CSGO, Overwatch, PUBG, etc...all of which are also CRUSHED by fortnite - fortnite has left humanity behind.
Apex will never have a meaningful season pass without solo que, its just not possible to make it interesting or to make you do anything 'fun' without messing up the squads goal of winning