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Apex Legends Hits 25 Million Players, 2 million concurrent players

Apr 6, 2018
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See certain people in here celebrating Apex's success who crawl all over Fortnite threads criticising its microtransactions. Guess they don't have a problem with the full on lootboxes in Apex then since they enjoy the game. Shows their true purposes really.

Fortnite will still probably keep the kids because I think apex skill ceiling is alot higher then fortnites, but I am glad it could potentially mean less success for fortnite .
This is one of the most clueless things I've read in this thread. Fortnite's skill ceiling is insanely high because of the building. Hell I'd even wager that part of the reason Apex is more popular on this forum than Fortnite is because of the smaller skill gap.


Well done to Respawn though. It's certainly the BR with the best feeling shooting.
 
PUBG hasn’t been the game for a while and the fact it has 200,000 concurrent players means jack shit when COD in its worst years could hold double that in one console. PUBGs console versions are dogshit and the game doesn’t have the clout it used to have so at this point the game is slowly dying. Look at Twitch numbers which matters a lot more then some of you are willing to admit and you’ll how much more viewers fortnite gets.
Twitch numbers mattering more than people actually playing the game is one of the most nonsense things I've read on this forum

And the 200k number is PC only when the game has a healthy console base as well as a monster mobile base. Also COD in it's worse years was still incredibly successful, your barometer for failure is way, way off
 
Oct 28, 2017
9,214
See certain people in here celebrating Apex's success who crawl all over Fortnite threads criticising its microtransactions. Guess they don't have a problem with the full on lootboxes in Apex then since they enjoy the game. Shows their true purposes really.
Not going to lie, that is the uglier side of things that does make me feel a bit dirty lol. The microtransactions are predatory and outrageously bad value. It's basically $20 for certain shitty skins that in some cases barely change the actual model, and instead are mostly just a paint job. Then there's the fact that after a certain level you stop getting packs every level up, which really makes things super grindy and unfair. And if you were to buy 10 packs for $10, there's no guarantee you'd even get many good things or much crafting material. This loot box shit needs to end.

These are things that are certainly hampering the experience somewhat, but at the end of the day the core gameplay is just super fun without me having yet spent any real money (though if it's good value/content I plan to get the Season pass).

We have to wait for the Season pass or whatever to see what sort of value or how predatory this really is or isn't or will or won't be.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,979
Cleveland Ohio
I have a feeling the game is going to be nuts the week the battle pass launches.

Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s at 50 million by then.
Oh totally. Plus in my opinion this game is well deserved of my hard earned money and I never spend a dime on microtransactions. Respawn has totally earned my money though, and I imagine a lot of other people's money as well.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,688
Respawn must be ecstatic beyond belief.

I only played one match over the weekend but the game felt pretty damn solid and fun. If the games gets quality updates (maps/game modes) this game will stick around for a hell of a long time.
 
Oct 26, 2017
2,259
Crazy, but the game is darn near perfect, and can make PUBG, COD, Destiny, Overwatch, and Fortnite players feel at home.

H1 players, y'all are crazy psychos who will stay there forever, and that's cool :)

And I don't get people complaining about microtransactions in a game that is perfectly playable for free, and even gives you stuff, and enough currency to buy the legends pretty easily. If you want more games to go this route, perhaps drop a tenner their way eventually and other companies will continue this string of killer f2p games.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,047
See certain people in here celebrating Apex's success who crawl all over Fortnite threads criticising its microtransactions. Guess they don't have a problem with the full on lootboxes in Apex then since they enjoy the game. Shows their true purposes really.



This is one of the most clueless things I've read in this thread. Fortnite's skill ceiling is insanely high because of the building. Hell I'd even wager that part of the reason Apex is more popular on this forum than Fortnite is because of the smaller skill gap.


Well done to Respawn though. It's certainly the BR with the best feeling shooting.
full on cosmetic loot boxes with publicized drop rates, no dupes and guaranteed legendary after a set # of boxes (30 i believe?) is a perfectly fine monetization strategy for a F2P game
 
Apr 6, 2018
2,127
Not going to lie, that is the uglier side of things that does make me feel a bit dirty lol. The microtransactions are predatory and outrageously bad value. It's basically $20 for certain shitty skins that in some cases barely change the actual model, and instead are mostly just a paint job. Then there's the fact that after a certain level you stop getting packs every level up, which really makes things super grindy and unfair. And if you were to buy 10 packs for $10, there's no guarantee you'd even get many good things or much crafting material. This loot box shit needs to end.

These are things that are certainly hampering the experience somewhat, but at the end of the day the core gameplay is just super fun without me having yet spent any real money (though if it's good value/content I plan to get the Season pass).

We have to wait for the Season pass or whatever to see what sort of value or how predatory this really is or isn't or will or won't be.
See, that excuse would never fly around here when it comes to other games. Hell, the thread would have already been derailed with microtransaction discussions.

I dislike lootboxes as much as the next guy, but my problem is with the hypocrisy I'm seeing here around Apex. They're willing to push aside their previous grandstanding when it comes to a game they enjoy playing themselves. How do you expect to be taken seriously next time you want to protest lootboxes by using the plight of some other unfortunate addict..

full on cosmetic loot boxes with publicized drop rates, no dupes and guaranteed legendary after a set # of boxes is a perfectly fine monetization strategy for a F2P game
Wasn't the whole problem with lootboxes supposed to be about preying on gambling tendencies? The F2P thing doesn't make any difference to that.
 
Oct 26, 2017
2,225
Twitch numbers mattering more than people actually playing the game is one of the most nonsense things I've read on this forum.
It does matter a lot though, especially in this early stage. Seeing Apex dominate Twitch charts is snowballing the game's word of mouth and getting thousands of people to try it out.

YouTube channels that would just post Fortnite clips have switched to Apex. Content creators are scrambling to capture the new audience.

Right now I'd say the buzz around the game is more valuable than player counts because if the buzz stopped, so would growth.
 

Tokyo_Funk

Banned
Member
Dec 10, 2018
1,165
I'm glad. How many games can let you play as a Polynesian man, let alone a gay Polynesian man? Or a non-binary character? For many players this might be their first experience of non-binary gender identities.
I can't name one game with a Polynesian man so it's cool to have him in. I think Nier had a non binary, but I'm not 100% on it. Either way, it's nice they're in and it's even better that a few outspoken are having a tantrum about it. Let them, while they're throwing a hissy fit, everyone else is enjoying the game.
 
It does matter a lot though, especially in this early stage. Seeing Apex dominate Twitch charts is snowballing the game's word of mouth and getting thousands of people to try it out.

YouTube channels that would just post Fortnite clips have switched to Apex. Content creators are scrambling to capture the new audience.

Right now I'd say the buzz around the game is more valuable than player counts because if the buzz stopped, so would growth.
It matters, but it's not the most important metric. When you have lower Twitch numbers but still a large and active userbase, the userbase is a better indicator of the life of a game

I'm also not saying Apex isn't really popular, I'm saying the idea that PUBG is dying or dead and Apex's popularity means Fortnite will follow it are ridiculous
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Up and up and up.

Really cool to see a cold launch explode like this. I don't believe anything high profile has happened quite like this with games until now. First game since Street Fighter 4 to get most of my friends playing all at once like this.
 
Oct 30, 2017
2,479
NYC
That is actually a good point. PUBG and Fortnite still are there own thing and will always have interest. Blackout on the other hand really doesn't have a place in this battle anymore. It is by far the worst of all 3. It has it's sales though so I doubt Activision even cares
Yup, it might have well not exist. I'm sure CoD BO4 will show to have fallen off a cliff starting this month.

Also, Fortnite is fine, but it would be interesting to see a different present where they actually kept up on Save The World, making it F2P, while also adding custom modes of the BR part. Instead, they spent too much resources changing the meta of the BR mode every other week, when they had all the money to do way more.
 

elenarie

Developer at DICE
Verified
Jun 10, 2018
1,512
I’m both excited and scared by how the industry will react.
Don't be. You need a very large amount of players to be successful with a free to play game. Because some games are successful, it doesn't mean most will move in that direction. :)
 
Oct 29, 2017
1,746
UK
If a battle pass includes all the characters I'll be tempted. It's the only thing I dislike about this game currently, a hero shooter with heroes being locked away if you don't pay for them.
 
Oct 30, 2017
668
Every time they announce the type of news makes the announcement of the game even more hilarious where people were so pessimistic when we barely even knew a single thing about it. I think it was pretty smart of them to launch the way they did. Trying the game out immediately killed most of the negativity or perceptions people may had.
 
I can't play shooters for shit but even I'm having a great time with Apex. I had a Player fully carry me in one match and it was exhilarating how emphasised the team dynamic was. Well done Respawn and great to see everyone celebrating the wins in the industry!
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Also, Fortnite is fine, but it would be interesting to see a different present where they actually kept up on Save The World, making it F2P, while also adding custom modes of the BR part. Instead, they spent too much resources changing the meta of the BR mode every other week, when they had all the money to do way more.
Um what? They very frequently updated are. Every week there would be patch notes included for those changes too. And they release new custom modes every week?
 

Lopez

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
4,992
A dumpster
Twitch numbers mattering more than people actually playing the game is one of the most nonsense things I've read on this forum
reading comprehension? I didn’t say that.

And the 200k number is PC only when the game has a healthy console base as well as a monster mobile base. Also COD in it's worse years was still incredibly successful, your barometer for failure is way, way off
COD dropped in its worst due to fatigue over the course of a 15 year legacy while PUBG has entered that stage in 1 year. It’s not that complicated to see that game on PC is dying. The fact that the game has dropped off so much in one year and also the damage control bluepoint has tried to do shows that the game isn’t in a healthy course.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I've played 2 matches of Overwatch ever in my life.
I've played 0 matches of Fortnite ever in my life.
I've played 0 matches of PUBG ever in my life.

Once I get home from work travel.... I think I want to try this out.
 
Oct 30, 2017
2,479
NYC
Um what? They very frequently updated are. Every week there would be patch notes included for those changes too. And they release new custom modes every week?
No, I mean the constant delays to make Save The World free, and also, custom modes as in the main battle-royale mode but with the option to change gameplay options for your own matches (no building, more mats, etc).
 
Jan 10, 2018
237
It matters, but it's not the most important metric. When you have lower Twitch numbers but still a large and active userbase, the userbase is a better indicator of the life of a game

I'm also not saying Apex isn't really popular, I'm saying the idea that PUBG is dying or dead and Apex's popularity means Fortnite will follow it are ridiculous
I don't think these games are dying,but my guess is that their growth slows down by a huge margin. At least for now.

I think there is a place for all three,as they are going for different things.(sorry blackout)
 
Apr 8, 2018
819
Congrats to Respawn. Very well deserved.

Curious to see how much they've made on microtransactions so far. I've heard someone say they dropped $100 on the game already.
 
Jul 26, 2018
1,007
For some reason I missed this news (probably by playing the whole last week just this game). This is just bananas. Respawn you did good.
 
Dec 6, 2018
147
See, that excuse would never fly around here when it comes to other games. Hell, the thread would have already been derailed with microtransaction discussions.

I dislike lootboxes as much as the next guy, but my problem is with the hypocrisy I'm seeing here around Apex.
Not me. Never bought a lootbox or any kind of microtransaction and never will. I like Apex. It's a damn good game and I would have bought it if it hadn't been free, but there is no way in hell I'm going to contribute to EA's predatory bullshit.
 
May 23, 2018
280
Happy for them as it truly is a great game. Real addicting so far.

Really hope their Battle Pass is up to snuff though. That, along with constant updates will make or break the game
 
Oct 29, 2017
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I am not that familiar with BR games.

Whats normally included in a Battle Pass?
It’s usually a series of cosmetic items that are unlocked during that battle pass by levelling up with XP.

It’s like a meta XP level attached to a purchase which is time limited. It suits people wh always like an objective to work towards
 
Oct 26, 2017
1,340
This is one of the most clueless things I've read in this thread. Fortnite's skill ceiling is insanely high because of the building. Hell I'd even wager that part of the reason Apex is more popular on this forum than Fortnite is because of the smaller skill gap.
Lol yeah I found that funny as well. I guess Fortnite is both simultaneously a 'kids game' and one that requires too many build skills.
 

Toni

Avenger
Nov 13, 2017
1,073
Orlando, Florida
Paragon being bland and mediocre is what killed Paragon.
> Paragon
> bland
> mediocre

Pick one.
Imagine if the next Halo had a battle royale like this but not as fun. The wind would be taken out of it's sails. I doubt it has BR but oh man.


Yeah man, I loved Narbash, Morigesh, and a lot of the characters. I don't understand how they could just give up on it full stop, and give away the assets so they wouldn't be tempted to bring it back themselves like that. Such a good cast...
Honeslty, it would have sufficed if they had made it subscription-based like many Moba & MMO's have done. And eventually come back to it like a year later or so to update it enough and get it out of its Beta state. So much talent and vision wasted.

There are 2 active projects in vdevelopment called Predecessor and CORE, which are Paragon remakes and both look excellent. Both getting betas in March. I made a thread about Predecessor as they recently uploaded a gameplay video and it looks awesome.

It's another topic, but it would be great if Epic revived Paragon. Now that they undoubtedly have the resources to do so.
I kinda miss it.
Pretty much nothing has been able to replace it for me. It took up almost all of my gaming time when it was active. It was my first Moba experience for me too.
 
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Oct 30, 2017
894
Amazing. Without even so much as a pre launch teaser.


Congrats Respawn.

Titanfall 2 is the best multiplayer shooter ever made and severely underappreciated. Maybe now Respawn will get the love the deserve. (And hopefully Titanfall 3 gets made)