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EvilBoris

Prophet of Truth - HDTVtest
Verified
Oct 29, 2017
16,676
I am not that familiar with BR games.

Whats normally included in a Battle Pass?

It's usually a series of cosmetic items that are unlocked during that battle pass by levelling up with XP.

It's like a meta XP level attached to a purchase which is time limited. It suits people wh always like an objective to work towards
 

medyej

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,409
This is one of the most clueless things I've read in this thread. Fortnite's skill ceiling is insanely high because of the building. Hell I'd even wager that part of the reason Apex is more popular on this forum than Fortnite is because of the smaller skill gap.

Lol yeah I found that funny as well. I guess Fortnite is both simultaneously a 'kids game' and one that requires too many build skills.
 

Toni

Banned
Nov 13, 2017
1,983
Orlando, Florida
Paragon being bland and mediocre is what killed Paragon.

> Paragon
> bland
> mediocre

Pick one.
Imagine if the next Halo had a battle royale like this but not as fun. The wind would be taken out of it's sails. I doubt it has BR but oh man.


Yeah man, I loved Narbash, Morigesh, and a lot of the characters. I don't understand how they could just give up on it full stop, and give away the assets so they wouldn't be tempted to bring it back themselves like that. Such a good cast...

Honeslty, it would have sufficed if they had made it subscription-based like many Moba & MMO's have done. And eventually come back to it like a year later or so to update it enough and get it out of its Beta state. So much talent and vision wasted.

There are 2 active projects in vdevelopment called Predecessor and CORE, which are Paragon remakes and both look excellent. Both getting betas in March. I made a thread about Predecessor as they recently uploaded a gameplay video and it looks awesome.

It's another topic, but it would be great if Epic revived Paragon. Now that they undoubtedly have the resources to do so.
I kinda miss it.

Pretty much nothing has been able to replace it for me. It took up almost all of my gaming time when it was active. It was my first Moba experience for me too.
 
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BigTnaples

Member
Oct 30, 2017
1,752
Amazing. Without even so much as a pre launch teaser.


Congrats Respawn.

Titanfall 2 is the best multiplayer shooter ever made and severely underappreciated. Maybe now Respawn will get the love the deserve. (And hopefully Titanfall 3 gets made)
 

Shadoken

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,204
PUBG hasn't been the game for a while and the fact it has 200,000 concurrent players means jack shit when COD in its worst years could hold double that in one console. PUBGs console versions are dogshit and the game doesn't have the clout it used to have so at this point the game is slowly dying. Look at Twitch numbers which matters a lot more then some of you are willing to admit and you'll how much more viewers fortnite gets.

200k now. 835k Peak today. And this is with all the buzz around Apex.
Majority of the playerbase is in Asia. And idk how popular twitch is , or if they use other streaming services there.

But sure go ahead , its a dead game. And its hilarious how you are using COD as a measuring stick for failure. When COD is basically the biggest game every year except when a rockstar game comes out.

Idk where you are pulling those COD numbers from , but i'd like it see if its doing 835k peak now and not around launch.
 
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KillstealWolf

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
16,043
I was hearing some around 10-11 year olds talking about it when I went Swimming Today, It's in the cultural zeitgiest, It's going to do pretty good.
 

Cynn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,285
Don't be. You need a very large amount of players to be successful with a free to play game. Because some games are successful, it doesn't mean most will move in that direction. :)
That's a good point. Free to play and "AAA" aren't usually attached to the same game. Apex is both but most others won't be. I really want AAA development to continue on even though I know it's a harsh landscape these days.
 

Cynn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,285
I also recall Frankie saying they weren't remaking CE. They can lie or plans can change. 343 could do some cool stuff with the universe if they made a Battle Royale game.
Let's hope Stinkles is fibbing. A BR with Halo gunplay and vehicles would really be amazing.
Oh yea I love Blackout. I use to play it every weekend with my friends. I'm aware of the winter update changing some things but I didn't know they were going to go beyond that. Props to Activision if they support it with proper new content for 3 years.

I know they've changed the original map a bit but are they planning on adding a new map to Blackout?

Most likely the new map will be an IW landmarked one released this fall. The assumption at this point is that the dedicated Blackout team will be making it with IW. But who knows. If the rumors are true and the IW map hits at launch then it will be the fastest new map release for any BR.

But who knows.
 
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VeePs

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 25, 2017
17,356
Most likely the new map will be an IW landmarked one released this fall. The assumption at this point is that the dedicated Blackout team will be making it with IW. But who knows. If the rumors are true and the IW maps hits at launch then it will be the fastest new map release for any BR.

But who knows.

But that would (most likely) require buying the new Infinity Ward CoD right?
 

Toni

Banned
Nov 13, 2017
1,983
Orlando, Florida

You said Paragon was mediocre and bland and I am simply in complete disagreement. It may not have been for you (and that's fine), but the game had a lot going on for it and matches were lively as it could be and gameplay was one of the best ever conceived out there on the Moba field. Game simply suffered from a terrible upper management team incapable of absorbing feedback and promotion for the game was flat out nonexistent.
 

ZeoVGM

Member
Oct 25, 2017
76,004
Providence, RI
You said Paragon was mediocre and bland and I am simply in complete disagreement. It may not have been for you (and that's fine), but the game had a lot going on for it and matches were lively as it could be and gameplay was one of the best ever conceived out there on the Moba field. Game simply suffered from a terrible upper management team incapable of absorbing feedback and promotion for the game was flat out nonexistent.

I was more confused by you saying "pick one."
 

Skux

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,942
it's crazy just how much appeal this has to such a wide range of gamers.

There's the Fortnite players who hate building and bloom who can now play a BR with a lot of personality but without the crazy skyscrapers.

There's the PUBG players who can't stand the bugs and performance issues who want deep shooting mechanics like bullet drop and predictable recoil.

There's the Overwatch players who love the charm and fantasy of hero games and being a specialist member of a team composition with asymmetric gameplay.

There's the Titanfall players who love mobility and flashy plays who get to parkour and slide all over the map.

And then there's people like me who just end up playing what their friends are playing lol
 

Cynn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,285
But that would (most likely) require buying the new Infinity Ward CoD right?
Probably and that's why Blackout will never make numbers like an Apex or Fortnite would. If there was any common sense at Activision at all they'd spin Blackout into free to play as soon as possible. It already has battlepasses and cosmetic purchases ready to go.
 

Kaeden

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,898
US
Really is nice to see this for Respawn after the Titanfall games never got the love they deserved. Congrats to them, guess I really need to finally try it.
 

enkaisu

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,414
Pittsburgh
It's so awesome to finally have a good BR game without any bullshit. I can't stand Fortnite for the whole 'shoot someone and they turn into a luxury home' aspect and cringe emotes, and PUBG is buggy, clunky, and looks and performs like absolute shit. Also there's no dumb starting area where you just run around doing nothing for absolutely no reason!
 

arimanius

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,253
Congrats to Respawn. I love the titanfall series and this game is simply amazing. The best BR game hands down.
 

Chixdiggit

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
1,447
My new favorite game and by far my favorite BR game.
I can't see this ever making as much as Fortnite though. I think 3rd person has a lot to do with people dropping cash on skins.
 

Tebunker

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,844
Only thing I don't like is the load times on PS4, otherwise I can kill an hour in this game feel good, because it's that fine line between PUBG and Fortnite that works perfectly for me.
 

Jimrpg

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,280
Wonder how seriously COD and Battlefield are looking at F2P.

$60 games are just about dead honestly (unless you're Nintendo). They're definitely dead in Japan.

I had to learn the hard way, I put some money (a little bit) down on Activision last year because of the positive word of mouth of Black Ops 4, seeing as it was going the BR route, and the stock has completely tanked since then.

$60 is a huge barrier to entry when there's F2P everywhere.
 

OldBenKenobi

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,695
Apex has basically made me stop playing Blackout... which sucks because I paid $35 digital for it... I guess there is traditional cod mp and zombies.


People who are saying Blackout should go F2P are correct. Apex shows you can make a damn good standalone F2P BR first person shooter.
 

Deleted member 19767

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Oct 27, 2017
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$60 games are just about dead honestly (unless you're Nintendo). They're definitely dead in Japan.

I had to learn the hard way, I put some money (a little bit) down on Activision last year because of the positive word of mouth of Black Ops 4, seeing as it was going the BR route, and the stock has completely tanked since then.

$60 is a huge barrier to entry when there's F2P everywhere.

Listen, I'm about as happy for a successful F2P game to land as anyone. But the notion that $60 games are dead is laughable.
 

Parenegade

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,589
$60 games are just about dead honestly (unless you're Nintendo). They're definitely dead in Japan.

I had to learn the hard way, I put some money (a little bit) down on Activision last year because of the positive word of mouth of Black Ops 4, seeing as it was going the BR route, and the stock has completely tanked since then.

$60 is a huge barrier to entry when there's F2P everywhere.

Lol please be joking.
 

galv

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,048
Game is a blast to play and is by far the best BR on the market.

Congratulations to Respawn.
 

Bunzy

Banned
Nov 1, 2018
2,205
Couldn't be more deserving. Way to go Vince. Dude builds a great series for EA goes to activision to create a blockbuster for them, then comes back to EA and has his next IP that had tons of potential sent to die. Great to see him get another amazing franchise up and running.

EA screwed him over multiple times, Medal of Honor and titanfall. They better do some sucking now that he has created a golden goose for the studio. The money this game is about to rake in will dwarf battlefront and battlefield. Prob combined