Again, I have no idea what you're on about. If you actually have something to query in the longer post it might be more constructive in where we disagree on the topic.
I believe if people want to spend their money how they like then that is up to them, if people don’t like it eventually they won’t pay for it.You are completely missing the point. Predatory RNG lootboxes are wrong. Full stop. It is something that has been used and abused for far too long by gaming companies. There is a reason why they are being questioned from a legal standpoint in several countries at this point.
There are several articles and videos available that cover this topic in depth ans explain why they are wrong. I suggest you educate yourself.
I'm not saying there aren't, I'm saying that Fortnite adjusted their pricing model in the past based on player feedback so it's not the best case to use against prices being iterated upon in that sense.
Once again you are completely missing the point.I believe if people want to spend their money how they like then that is up to them, if people don’t like it eventually they won’t pay for it.
If this was a paid for game then it is understandable, but it is free.
I don’t but them but i love the game, so have purchased the battle pass instead.
It's not about you, if you genuinely didn't care you wouldn't be talking about it.
It's an intentionally naive and simplistic view of the situation because they're really only upset that the game they like is being criticized. What other reason do they have to be upset over people suggesting a pricing structure is too expensive to the consumer.
Its pushed as the only way to unlock certain skins, and yes, people really do want these. People often start using lootboxes without the intention of spending a lot, and lo and behold they end up spending a fortune.
Do you have a single example of these double standards or is this just presumption?
It's not even just the pricing. If this was a collection of skins and other cosmetics that you could buy individually then I would not even care.
I have to guess it's because they don't personally play those mobile games, but they do play Apex so they do care about that. Then again maybe they do have an issue with mobile, but just not talking about it here.
This is a thread about Apex. Make a thread about mobile gacha pricing models and I'm sure people will express similar sentiments.
You're completely right to point that out, though even without the RNG I still think it doesn't justify a limitless price (which I doubt you do either, but considering the sentiment..).It's not even just the pricing. If this was a collection of skins and other cosmetics that you could buy individually then I would not even care.
It's the fact they are resorting to using predatory practices like these RNG lootboxes and then on top of that scumbag tactic they are pricing them at an absurd level.
I've mentioned this a few times, but it's the seven hundred percent markup compared to regular boxes that folks have an issue with. I like to support the game myself, and if it weren't astronomically priced I might get a few. It is actually better in a way because the boxes have no dupes and a pretty even chance to get an epic or legendary item. It does require a minimum of around $130 to get all items, even if you complete all the in-game challenges.
You are making arguments against things I havent said lmao.Its pushed as the only way to unlock certain skins, and yes, people really do want these. People often start using lootboxes without the intention of spending a lot, and lo and behold they end up spending a fortune.
You can call them idiots if you want and expose your total lack of empathy toward the many people who fall prey to these kinds of systems. "its just cosmetic" was never an excuse to include predatory monetization.
Accurate even if I can't speak to the examples, which is why feedback is important because it can make companies re-evaluate and there will almost always be an iterative step toward doing it right that affords more good-will from consumers without sacrificing ongoing revenue. It just requires that to be explored.
"ITS F2P JUST COSMETIC" in all caps is absolutely close enough to calling people fools for gambling. I can only assume you feel this way because of a lack of understanding or empathy.
I would be happier if they were selling skins for $15-20 each so I could buy the two I want. Like they were doing since the release, their store always has skins. I don't really want to buy lootboxes and hope that Lady Luck will give me what I want in lootbox #1 and not #20.So you say thanks to them and continue to play hundreds of hours of the free game you enjoy?
Apex has been pretty meh on every front except the gameplay from the start, but there's no whale potential from this. There's a max they can spend and then they can't spend more.
Would people have been happier if they put out a $200 limited retail release for it - 'Apex Legends: EVENT Edition' that was just a code in a box that gives you all the skins?
You don't feel guilty that the items that people actually want can't be bought at all unless you engage in gambling? If people like you actually read through the whole thread, you would see that most people are not complaining about price but about the way the items they want are obtained. If each item was say priced at 20 dollars or pounds an individual after 1 specific item could spend 20 during the event and be content. Instead they have to pay 7 for a slot machine pull. Now after 3 pulls without the item they want they are effectively overspending because of the gambling mechanic. A few lucky people will pull their desired item in 1 go but 99% will have to spend more than the 20 to get what they want. It's absurd to think that you would have to potentially pull 24 times to guarantee the item you want.How exactly is it scummy tactics? There's nothing here, that I've read at least in the OP, that says said stuff in necessary in any way to buy. If people want to buy it, they can. Many clearly don't want it and will pass. If that means more and more follow the latter option because they don't like the pricing model, then EA/Respawn changes them or the game dies. I can't be made to feel guilty because others are funding the game I choose to play free.
As much as I love Respawn, this sort of shit was always inevitable, especially seeing as Apex is F2P.
Are you thinking deeply about this while playing the free game you’re playing for free?
So offer them at a fixed rate and not solely through slot machines that are designed to be exploitative? I spent some money on skins for League of Legends when I used to play because it was a fixed rate and not a total crapshoot.
In the rush to defend a corporation, friendos, you may have missed the fact that people don't want "all the skins", they most likely just want the skin for the character they mainly play as. Due to there being no option to just buy said thing, the gambling of the loot box nonsense drives the price to potentially $150+ if RNG goes as RNG so typically does.