I have ~400 hours in it and haven't spent a penny. My initial currency in the game came from having an origin access sub to play anthem.
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Apex Legends New Timed Event Takes Monetization To A Whole New Level
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Not for them. You wouldn't believe how much these companies make of people's addiction.
It's a free to play game. No one is forcing anyone to buy cosmetics to play dress up on your characters. When these companies start charging for game play changes and modes that's when it becomes a problem.
I mean, for me it is just cosmetics so I can fairly say it is fine for me? They delivered one of the best games this gen for free.
The corporate bumlicking when it comes to F2P games overextending with mtx pricing is insane considering the overarching sentiment around them.
Like, the people supporting the game you're enjoying for free raise an eyebrow over the pricing and they're told 'what's the issue?'.
Like, the people supporting the game you're enjoying for free raise an eyebrow over the pricing and they're told 'what's the issue?'.
Many of us are not whining at all. For myself and many others that would like to support the game and were looking forward to this event its just terribly disappointing.
Umm what is stopping you from trying it? Cosmetics have zero affect on the game itself
The people whining might be the people that are allowing you to actually enjoy the game without giving a shit about these things.
So that makes these scummy pricing tactics ok? It's gambling.
Not a good look.
And I thought the whole monetization aspect of the game thus far wasn't that bad.
And I thought the whole monetization aspect of the game thus far wasn't that bad.
Nice post explaining things. Reasonable thoughts on Apex, but Overwatch is also first person and they are selling fine. (are they? it's been awhile since I heard any success story for Overwatch in terms of profit)
From a legal point of view this isn't settled yet fully. From my own PoV I see no issue with this since I can just skip it alltogehter if I want.
Because its naive to pretend that this nonsense is always driven entirely by publishers. The martyr dev narrative needs to die.
EA diving in on that shit like:
Like okay, fine, we have lootboxes. they're bad enough. but then TIMED lootboxes? I thought Overwatch already took the brunt of that hit with their seasonal/event lootbox BS. APEX finally got out of a hole and now EA is digging Respawn another one.
Like okay, fine, we have lootboxes. they're bad enough. but then TIMED lootboxes? I thought Overwatch already took the brunt of that hit with their seasonal/event lootbox BS. APEX finally got out of a hole and now EA is digging Respawn another one.
Idk how anyone is surprised.
Number one, EA.
Number two, this studio has a history of overpriced DLC. Titanfall 2 had tons of it. Titanfall was goddamn amazing but had $10 three map DLC packs. IW CoD titles always had $10-15 map packs that sucked.
Number three, skins in this game have been a huge ripoff since day one. $20 for skins.
I don't mind this though because the game is free to play and it's all cosmetics. I can support the game via Battle Pass and not buy any of this shit. If there are people willing to pay for this then have at it.
Number one, EA.
Number two, this studio has a history of overpriced DLC. Titanfall 2 had tons of it. Titanfall was goddamn amazing but had $10 three map DLC packs. IW CoD titles always had $10-15 map packs that sucked.
Number three, skins in this game have been a huge ripoff since day one. $20 for skins.
I don't mind this though because the game is free to play and it's all cosmetics. I can support the game via Battle Pass and not buy any of this shit. If there are people willing to pay for this then have at it.
You don't have to have a direct relation or connection with things to appreciate when they might be able to be made better. Especially when the concern expressed is by those directly allowing you to not care and skip it altogether.
Even before this new age of microtransactions, I was missing these franchises. Such a shame that the arena shooter died. God I loved Quake and UT back in the day.
I definitely think it needs a rework and repricing, but let's not pretend that it sets a new bar in any way.
I mean how else is Respawn going to make money? Do you think that Apex Legends was made over the weekend by 2 people? Respawn is a decent sized dev house oozing with talent. They are not a charity that makes games for free.
I hate this whole "it doesn't effect me so I don't care" mentality. How about getting some fucking empathy and know this does effect folks and triggers their gambling/collecting habits and hurts then financially. It's manipulative, predatory practices to have your shit locked behind RNG loot boxes. Period.
Who said I enjoyed the game? I don't even play it anymore...
I also have 0 problems spending money on cosmetics in games I like. If they happened to be hidden behind some RNG system, whoop dee doo.
By selling skins, not lootboxes. Like Fortnite, the biggest game in the world.
Yes, but the game is also free, so there is that, so how are they suppose to earn money then? If they want to keep it F2P if they can't sell anything.
This. It's almost like people think the other alternative is NO MONETIZATION AT ALL.
It's about an event and a progression system that is build only around those loot boxes (okay, apart from those tokens you have to play a shitload of hours for so you can use them to buy 6 items). To get this special axe not only you have to acquire ALL 24 items (which, again, are ALL locked behind a lootbox) and THEN you have to pay another 3,500 in-game coins, which is 40 bucks (because, thanks inter-currency, you can't buy 3,500 coins). And then you have the price of 7 bucks for one of those loot boxes.
It's not all or nothing people ask for. It's a reasonable price and more interesting event progression.
I miss the times when you were rewarded for getting 500 headshots with a specific weapon and you got a certain skin or attachment for that weapon—and not the chance to get it. Of course I could just take 60 bucks, invest them in Apex Legends and pretend I have now a full-price game with all its content and maybe pay another 20 bucks symbolically each year to pretend I now have a add-on with all its content. Thing with those GaaS is you will NEVER have everything (which could be okay), but in order to get what you really want (maybe 5 out of 100 skins) you can easily end up paying hundreds of bucks.
Fuck me, it's a free game, they are cosmetics, they don't give you a gameplay advantage and they have to make money....because it's a FREE game!
If this stuff you don't have to pay for annoys you so much go and buy a different game.
If this stuff you don't have to pay for annoys you so much go and buy a different game.
Just charge a reasonable price for the content like a certain other popular Battle Royale game that happens to also be free.
The loot boxes for this event are seven times more expensive than the regular ones. The first season's event had items you directly earned over time rather than just a loot box. Compared to their own previous practices this is pretty out of left field and extremely expensive.
I've put over 230 hours on the PC version, bought both battle pass seasons with the extra levels and the original founders pack. I love the game, but this is pretty depressing for the state of the secondary cosmetic grind of the game. It won't make me stop playing it, but the wall for these items is so astronomically high I won't spend a penny on it. I'm certainly the target audience they're shooting for here since I have bought and plan to buy stuff to support the game in the future, but over $150 for a random 2 week long mid-season event? With no way to realistically earn these through gameplay? Fuck off with that.
I dunno man, if someone offered me 350 million dollars for my company I don't think I could just turn it down on principle. I mean I'd probably also immediately retire and start a new company so *shrug emoji*
I just think it's weird, given EA's history of pushing this crap on every single game ever, to lay this on Respawn. This free-to-play game published by EA was going to get hit with ridiculous mtx whether Respawn was on board with it or not.
It's not a free game for the percentage of players they require to invest in the game to keep it free for most. Discussing the pricing model is as valid as discussing any other part of the game that people are expected to engage with.
I didn't - I just didn't disagree. You went on to a different point though, which those posts had tried to address before.
That's not how addiction/addictive tendencies work. That's not how its ever worked.
It will continue to be free BECAUSE people will spend $200 on this garbage event.
I won't. I can still complain about their scummy tactics. Just like you come on a message board and complain....
Here I agree! I don't have an oppinion on the pricing just yet, but I assume their revenue people will see if this is a viable price of not.
Then you are doing it correct, by speaking with your wallet, hopefully, for you, they will not have this pricing level.
My initial post was in response to "scummy practice", even though I didn't mention it. But I agree that it is perfectly valid to discuss a F2P pricing model, but calling it scummy practice reeks entitlement for me that they should be able to get everything for free.
Anything can be addictive to a certain person, any business model they put out could be addictive to a specific person.
Yep, it's pretty bad. I'm not going to be spending any money on the event crates.
The game is free, and you don't need the skins to play, so, you really should give solo mode a try. Why not?
The game is free, and you don't need the skins to play, so, you really should give solo mode a try. Why not?
Is literally a free game.
If you love the game and want to support them spend money. If you want to support the game by just playing the game, don't spend money.
If you don't care either way.. whatever.
I think what some people are missing is the stark jump in price compared to previously. It's a bit like pulling up to McDonald's to see the dollar menu items are now $10 apiece.