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Apex Legends New Timed Event Takes Monetization To A Whole New Level
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Its the equivalent of a slot machine advertised as the only way to unlock cool shit for your characters.
"anything can be addictive" oh... I guess we've solved gambling.
True, and i will complain about people who strangely don't want to play their game, but want to come on a message board and complain about that game....
He is right though in the comment he made.
Without people paying, the game wouldn't exist.
Glad to see a thread about this in main and it actually hitting the news cycle too as I was gonna post it myself earlier. The MTX on this update is so far out of whack and disgusting, that its astonishing. This after its long been a main complaint on the game and its been losing players. Fuck all that 'just cosmetics' noise as well because there are very few updates in the game at all, so any new content is thirsted over. Especially since you can't play to unlock anything beyond 2 measly lootboxes, even if you own the Battle Pass. A few things:
- The new character skins in the game were all made as a medieval set theme, and they've been the first new full skins the game has seen in a while. 3 of them we're released in the Battle Pass, but clearly they wanted to hold over 7 for this new monetisation event.
- Normally in a hero game, people have their set stable of 2-3 players they main. Due to every one of these new cosmetics being RNG, if you are after a skin for 'your' character, the RNG is more than likely to screw you for 23 of those 24 boxes. That's where the £100+ price tag is coming from for people. It's fucking disgusting.
- Apex Legends progression and MTX systems have been absolutely fucked from launch and I've long said they should fire and re-hire whoever the designer thats responsible as they're just not up to snuff and hurting the game. The weekly store only has 5-6 things to buy on it at any given time, cycling between random odds and sods. The red Apex currency you can earn infinitely when levelling up has no purpose outside of buying a new Legend which seems to be once per quarter, and Exclusive Upgrade skins on the Weekly Store for which you already need the corresponding Legendary skin to be able to 'buy'. It is beyond fucked, and now they have managed to fuck it further and associate their new exciting update with 'EA UP TO USUAL EA SURPRISE MECHANIC BULLSHIT' headlines.
I feel like I'm going the only person that never purchases anything additional to a game. I love Apex but don't give a shit about anything but playing the game. Same for any other game. If this crap sells then they're gonna keep selling it. It's simple business whether I think it's bullshit or not.
I didn't disagree.
If you love them and want to support them, spend money. If you want to support them and not pay, just play the game. Totals matter.
I don't care how much money someone spends, nor do I care how much they list "exclusive" cosmetics items for (or in what fashion). People in here love to tell others what they should or shouldn't use their disposable income on. It's fucking laughable. Is it gambling? Sure. Do people gamble in real life.. yes. Am I going to spend money on things I like or want? You bet your ass I am. (Just not in this game)
EA happened. Sure you get given a big cheque but it's like selling your soul to the devil
I didn't realize just how much barbie dress up was paramount to actually playing the game.
Again F2P is not excuse for scummy tactics why is this keep being said?
I do get it, i just don't care....again, if people want to and choose to spend their money how they like, it doesn't bother me.
Yes? They don't owe you shit. In a paid title, I would say nope, but the game's free, of course they can sell cosmetics at indecent price.
Love this solo event, I hope they make it permanent.
Its not really a cluster fuck as it's just cosmetics, there isn't anything game play wise locked behind any paywall.
It's simply down to the fact of if you want to pay money for people to see your character looking different.
And they aren't killing their game, it's one of the most played games right now and I'm assuming making a killing from these little boxes
I mean I play video games because they are fun. I couldn't care less what my character who doesn't exist in real life looks like on screen. "Skins" are the worst thing to ever happen to this industry and it blows my mind that people "gamble" for them
Yeah, I saw the trailer earlier, logged on, figured out how I don't get all these cool event items, and switched it off again.
How exactly is it scummy tactics? There's nothing here, that I've read at least in the OP, that says said stuff in necessary in any way to buy. If people want to buy it, they can. Many clearly don't want it and will pass. If that means more and more follow the latter option because they don't like the pricing model, then EA/Respawn changes them or the game dies. I can't be made to feel guilty because others are funding the game I choose to play free.
It's not like a big OP weapon/special character is locked behind it making it P2W like most f2p gotcha games. There is so many characters that have an effect in-game I will never get from FEH because my luck sucks in that game and I am not willing to pay for orbs...Apex is just visual cosmetics that make you look different that have zero in-game impact.
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Pretty incredible amount of people showing their ass when they persist in thinking that charging more money and receiving more revenue are a simple linear line with no further consideration.
That the concept of lowering the price or increasing the value proposition for the consumer means that doing so would be an abject detriment to the company.
There's zero reason to run in to bat for Apex outside of an impulse to defend it from criticism, especially if you're proudly proclaiming you don't even interact with the systems that the topic is about.
A game being F2P doesn't make it infallible from criticism when it comes to pricing structures. It's typically a to-and-fro between appeasing consumers with price and charging more to widen the markup.
What is utterly stupid is when the consumers start shouting down other consumers when it comes to discussing the line being drawn more toward the consumer-friendly end, when it has as much bearing on their enjoyment of the game as it did before.
That the concept of lowering the price or increasing the value proposition for the consumer means that doing so would be an abject detriment to the company.
There's zero reason to run in to bat for Apex outside of an impulse to defend it from criticism, especially if you're proudly proclaiming you don't even interact with the systems that the topic is about.
A game being F2P doesn't make it infallible from criticism when it comes to pricing structures. It's typically a to-and-fro between appeasing consumers with price and charging more to widen the markup.
What is utterly stupid is when the consumers start shouting down other consumers when it comes to discussing the line being drawn more toward the consumer-friendly end, when it has as much bearing on their enjoyment of the game as it did before.
I don't think I'd say it's taking it to a new level when plenty of other games have done exactly this long before apex.
So you are dismissing the amazing gameplay of Apex Legends, which is by the way a video game, because you are unhappy with the price of loot boxes that no one is forcing you to buy and have zero impact on the gameplay? It really is mind blowing to me that lots of people seem to dismiss the enjoyment and FUN of a game and would rather focus on the dress up part.....even a FREE game like this one!
Yeah just tell gambling addicts to just not gamble. How innovative. Can't believe no one has thought of this before!
There is a difference between making money by selling cosmetics and using predatory gambling mechanics to make money.
Apex can monetize it's game without use scum tactics like RNG lootboxes. Plenty of other Free to Play games do it.
Who in here has said they're perfectly fine with the prices and don't see a need for them to be cheaper? I must have missed that post.
People telling people to effectively put up or shut up about this because it's a F2P game?
Do you know or have heard of masses of gambling addicts playing this game?
So people who don't mind spending money, when the choose to this way, have a problem?
People are missing the bigger picture in that they are selling at these exorbitant prices, because people are buying. Don't get caught up in the internet collective of how many people saying these prices are outrageous, which they most certainly are.
Fortnite has been selling $20 skins for going on two years now.
Black Ops 4, one of the worst offenders of microtransactions, has already outpaced COD:WWII in microtransaction sales.
The market is speaking and is more than fine with these prices, doesn't make it right, but it certainly explains why.
Fortnite has been selling $20 skins for going on two years now.
Black Ops 4, one of the worst offenders of microtransactions, has already outpaced COD:WWII in microtransaction sales.
The market is speaking and is more than fine with these prices, doesn't make it right, but it certainly explains why.
This is why I never really gave a shit about cosmetics in any shooter that wasn't Fortnite, if I am only seeing my character in the lobby and victory screens, what they look like is meaningless to me.
Except no one is saying that, so again, where are you getting this? Let's try not to change the parameters just to back up your point.
We tried getting my father to stop gambling many times and by the time he was divorced he had spent most of our savings and went to live somewhere else while my mother, me and my sister kept the house. Im never going to accept anything with even with the slightest potential to enable that type of addiction, including videogames that have a lot of young people playing them already.
Fortnite adjusted their prices in response to player criticism over them.
What are you on about, several people have said that in this thread. No parameters have changed, you're just apparently oblivious to the posts saying this is a non-issue because it's F2P.
So you say thanks to them and continue to play hundreds of hours of the free game you enjoy?
Apex has been pretty meh on every front except the gameplay from the start, but there's no whale potential from this. There's a max they can spend and then they can't spend more.
Would people have been happier if they put out a $200 limited retail release for it - 'Apex Legends: EVENT Edition' that was just a code in a box that gives you all the skins?
Your hyperbolic characterization of 'put up or shut up' isn't even close to what people are saying. But if that's how you read it, probably need to look at what they're saying a tad closer without such a negative pov.
The lootbox system in this game is horrendous once you reach level 100, and the breadth of rewards included in the battle pass has mostly been an excuse to give away even less of them. So I'm not surprised to see the prices shoot up for an event like this.
I play Apex all the fucking time and I'd really like to support Respawn more often than every three months, but I'm not paying $7 for a lootbox, fuck off EA.
I play Apex all the fucking time and I'd really like to support Respawn more often than every three months, but I'm not paying $7 for a lootbox, fuck off EA.
You are completely missing the point. Predatory RNG lootboxes are wrong. Full stop. It is something that has been used and abused for far too long by gaming companies. There is a reason why they are being questioned from a legal standpoint in several countries at this point.
There are several articles and videos available that cover this topic in depth ans explain why they are wrong. I suggest you educate yourself.