Apex Legends |OT| You kill me, you're better. I kill you, I'm better.

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FairyEmpire

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Nice. Yeah it’s been said time and time again that aggressive playing is rewarded and I love getting paired up with randoms who understand that. My last W of the night we all had around 1400 across the board. Just hitting every spot we hear gunfire. It’s so easy to wreck shop with the current meta of Wraith / Life / Bang (swap in bloodhound for one).
A lot depends on the randoms you get but also the weapons. R-301 is a weapon I used every now and then, yesterday however it went so damn well with my more aggressive approach that it was ridiculous: I just aimed a guy, shot for a bit, downed. Almost no chance for a fight by them. I still find it difficult to keep that rhythm consistently and to have it all work around as a lot depends on teammates, but I feel like I'm finding new enjoyment in the game with this. I've been aggressive before, mind, but something just clicked and it feels like I'm winning more fights by daring more, instead of retreating to heal every time I'm being shot first for example. All the time on PUBG (low TTK, easy to get picked out from a distance), Fortnite (turtling as soon as being shot), Blackout (every weapon is a laser and relatively low TTK means shooting first usually means kill), or even regular COD (superlow TTK) conditioned me to a different playstyle that I'm slowly managing to lose in Apex. It was hilarious how my new approach landed me two 1v3 squad wipes on like my 2nd match.
 

HiLife

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Oct 25, 2017
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So. I found out tonight that branches block your gunfire. I know my shit should’ve hit for both shots. Were they dead center? Naw, but I know some pellets should’ve registered. Is this surprising that trees block for you? Not really. It’s hilarious that something so skinny saved him from my first few pellets tho.

But branches and geometry could very well be your downfall. Watch out for branches Era.

 

FairyEmpire

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So. I found out tonight that branches block your gunfire. I know my shit should’ve hit for both shots. Were they dead center? Naw, but I know some pellets should’ve registered. Is this surprising that trees block for you? Not really. It’s hilarious that something so skinny saved him from my first few pellets tho.

But branches and geometry could very well be your downfall. Watch out for branches Era.

Drop me a PM, I just realized you're also on Xbox. Think we could do good together.
 

HiLife

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Oct 25, 2017
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A lot depends on the randoms you get but also the weapons. R-301 is a weapon I used every now and then, yesterday however it went so damn well with my more aggressive approach that it was ridiculous: I just aimed a guy, shot for a bit, downed. Almost no chance for a fight by them. I still find it difficult to keep that rhythm consistently and to have it all work around as a lot depends on teammates, but I feel like I'm finding new enjoyment in the game with this. I've been aggressive before, mind, but something just clicked and it feels like I'm winning more fights by daring more, instead of retreating to heal every time I'm being shot first for example. All the time on PUBG (low TTK, easy to get picked out from a distance), Fortnite (turtling as soon as being shot), Blackout (every weapon is a laser and relatively low TTK means shooting first usually means kill), or even regular COD (superlow TTK) conditioned me to a different playstyle that I'm slowly managing to lose in Apex. It was hilarious how my new approach landed me two 1v3 squad wipes on like my 2nd match.
It takes awhile to get used to trying to rewire your playstyle but it’s so worth it. To be fair tho, I’ve always played my shooters with that same aggressive attitude. I’ll go passive here and there, but I’m in that match just to test myself how high can I go. And I feel it’s worked out for me fairly often through all the shooters I’ve played online.

Drop me a PM, I just realized you're also on Xbox. Think we could do good together.
Cool I’ll add you. Me and Deception (Fortnite thread and here) try to party up when we have slots so it’d be cool if we got an Era 3. We’ll try to get you used to that rushing lol.
 

FairyEmpire

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It takes awhile to get used to trying to rewire your playstyle but it’s so worth it. To be fair tho, I’ve always played my shooters with that same aggressive attitude. I’ll go passive here and there, but I’m in that match just to test myself how high can I go. And I feel it’s worked out for me fairly often through all the shooters I’ve played online.



Cool I’ll add you. Me and Deception (Fortnite thread and here) try to party up when we have slots so it’d be cool if we got an Era 3. We’ll try to get you used to that rushing lol.
Cool, added you, looking forward for some matches :) I often appear offline when playing but don't hesitate to drop me an invite every now and then when you're on, I'll definitely join if it's feasible for me.
 

HiLife

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Oct 25, 2017
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Had a match where a guy actually stayed to see if I’d revive him while I was squabbin with 5 other players. Ended up surviving with 5 kills to boot and I managed to snag the revive.

We died 20 seconds later but still

It’s the principal of a guy just chillin hoping you’ll pull through for the team. It’s cool when that happens and it tends to happen with the newer players...

Wish more randoms had that mindset. Just B E L I E V E
 

Aldi

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just had a game this morning with the most loot greedy player I've ever seen.

Jumping on every deathbox as soon as it appears while me and the other guy were fighting off enemies. Cleaning out nearby loot bins while I'm using the respawn beacon and diving on care packages the second they land.

Was really hard work. Luckily the other guy I was with was decent, and he revived me a couple of times and pinged loot for me.
 

Munter

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Oct 30, 2017
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Had some fun games last night. We ended in the bunker with me as Wraith, 3 of us locked in a room while 2 other teams duke it out down the long corridor/stairway. I managed to get a portal up and ran out, letting us all escape. Another game ended with a mass firefight around 1 building, ended up being around 9 death boxes inside. Was crazy but a good laugh. Wasn't even mad I didn't get any wins.
 

M52B28

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Don’t think its coming this week tbh.

They might do a suprise release like the game? Dunno.
To be fair and somewhat critical, when it comes to a game like Apex, I don't think radio silence is a good thing to practice when they have players with 20+ days on it and millions of others.

If Respawn expects for people to follow, they need to keep people who are investing time into this game in the loop, otherwise they're going to get frustrated. I understand that there are hundreds of gears that need to move at the same time at once, and it takes time to make sure things go smoothly on releases, but it seems that F2P gamers are treating these types of games like mid-long term market investments.

Could today be the day? Battle Pass day? Is it finally happening?

Feel like the game is due something to spice things up.
Sadly, I have about 10 days played. A lot of those days were made when it first launched, but I've stopped playing the game as much because it just feels empty. I'm Level 100, stopped getting Apex packs (I've only spent $10, I'm not spending anymore), winning in the game is easy now because of how easy it is to read the patterns of the map's areas, as well as loot patterns with Pit, Swamp, and others.

It really feels like rinse-repeat. The champion leaks are looking good because that's seriously what this game needs, as well as more interesting weapons and maybe some in game events.
 
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They surprise released that game and said season 1 march. Since no one knew about the game and they could have released it at any point, why not chose a time period where the content is ready to drop? I guess I don’t get teasing a battle pass and then no news from community manager.
 

Pankratous

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To be fair and somewhat critical, when it comes to a game like Apex, I don't think radio silence is a good thing to practice when they have players with 20+ days on it and millions of others.

If Respawn expects for people to follow, they need to keep people who are investing time into this game in the loop, otherwise they're going to get frustrated.
I agree. Communication is key for a BR GaaS game, and it currently feels lacking. I know they post on Reddit but I think more official comms via their own website would be more appropriate.
 

FairyEmpire

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Oct 25, 2017
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The games barely been out a month, y'all have crazy expectations.
This. The game dropped last month, we already had a balance update, a new weapon, hotfixes, a content plan revealing new classes and weapons among other things, info on the upcoming pass, new cosmetics including a Twitch cross-promotion, a couple QoL changes already... what the hell are people expecting? Fortnite BR wasn't dropping mindblowing changes in its first weeks either, it took them some time to start chugging out updates bi-weekly. A Call Of Duty game takes like 2-3 months to start adding any meaningful update. PUBG took a long time to add maps, the pass, skins that don't suck ass, etc.. Overwatch took 2 months to add the first meaningful change (a new character). Destiny ran on auto-pilot apart from balance changes for like 3 months, then a (paid) DLC dropped.

Apex Legends has been out for five weeks. Game development isn't equal to flipping a switch and bam, suddenly you have 3 new maps, a battle pass, 8 new characters, a league mode and 500 QoL updates. Give 'em some time to propose quality updates. One of the reasons the game is so damn good from day 1 is the fact they didn't rush the release, going into early access after 3 months of development just to reach the money bin earlier. They spent a lot of time polishing, testing, and what came out was a functional, complete, balanced product, with relatively few technical issues for a "new" game - these past few years, looking at multiplayer game launches, that's quite a rarity. Give 'em some slack and let them work. I'd rather wait another month for a pass if it means we get something good, rather than them half-assing it and doing a trash variant of the concept like Black Ops IIII's first season had (2/3rds of the pass items were lootboxes, progress was slow as shit, etc.).
 

Munter

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This. The game dropped last month, we already had a balance update, a new weapon, hotfixes, a content plan revealing new classes and weapons among other things, info on the upcoming pass, new cosmetics including a Twitch cross-promotion, a couple QoL changes already... what the hell are people expecting? Fortnite BR wasn't dropping mindblowing changes in its first weeks either, it took them some time to start chugging out updates bi-weekly. A Call Of Duty game takes like 2-3 months to start adding any meaningful update. PUBG took a long time to add maps, the pass, skins that don't suck ass, etc.. Overwatch took 2 months to add the first meaningful change (a new character). Destiny ran on auto-pilot apart from balance changes for like 3 months, then a (paid) DLC dropped.

Apex Legends has been out for five weeks. Game development isn't equal to flipping a switch and bam, suddenly you have 3 new maps, a battle pass, 8 new characters, a league mode and 500 QoL updates. Give 'em some time to propose quality updates. One of the reasons the game is so damn good from day 1 is the fact they didn't rush the release, going into early access after 3 months of development just to reach the money bin earlier. They spent a lot of time polishing, testing, and what came out was a functional, complete, balanced product, with relatively few technical issues for a "new" game - these past few years, looking at multiplayer game launches, that's quite a rarity. Give 'em some slack and let them work. I'd rather wait another month for a pass if it means we get something good, rather than them half-assing it and doing a trash variant of the concept like Black Ops IIII's first season had (2/3rds of the pass items were lootboxes, progress was slow as shit, etc.).
Couldn't have put it better myself.
 

Young Liar

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Nov 30, 2017
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here's a cool thing to do when you're downed

i put my purple shield up and covered my last teammate who was healing in a real dark corner and hadn't been spotted yet. two of the last enemies came to thirst me and ended up emptying their mags on my downed body. teammate finished healing and proceeded to kill them both as they were reloading to win the game.

really helped that they were playing wraith with her dark goth outfit and tiny-ass hitbox!
 

FairyEmpire

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Oct 25, 2017
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here's a cool thing to do when you're downed

i put my purple shield up and covered my last teammate who was healing in a real dark corner and hadn't been spotted yet. two of the last enemies came to thirst me and ended up emptying their mags on my downed body. teammate finished healing and proceeded to kill them both as they were reloading to win the game.

really helped that they were playing wraith with her dark goth outfit and tiny-ass hitbox!
That's smart. I also try and be useful when downed. Not only by pinging enemies, but I also often intentionally crawl into my enemies line of fire (if it makes sense in the situation) to give my buddy more cover, perhaps an extra second or two to patch up. Or maybe my teammate hid for a second and I pop up, making the opponent confused about who just went where exactly. Being downed doesn't mean being out.
 

Vipu

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Oct 26, 2017
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Yes!
I love to try to be useful while being downed, fuck with the doors when enemy try to do something, block possible bullets by being in between friend and enemy, etc etc
 

Nothus

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Respawn will have had some sort of timetable or schedule laid out long before they launched the game. Were they expecting this many players? Probably not, but that in itself wouldn't have changed their timetable too much I don't think.
So the question is, how long to wait from launch to the start of season 1? We're currently 5 weeks in, during which time we've had one new gun introduced.
I'm trusting the people at Respawn to know what they're doing, but this is a competitive market and they need to be on the ball with things here because a lot of the gamers in this demographic will have pretty short attention spans, especially when a competitor is offering free battle passes for their product right now.

There will come a point where some people will get tired of waiting and move on. I'm not saying we're there yet but I'm not sure a few more weeks of nothing is what's needed here.
 

FairyEmpire

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Respawn will have had some sort of timetable or schedule laid out long before they launched the game. Were they expecting this many players? Probably not, but that in itself wouldn't have changed their timetable too much I don't think.
So the question is, how long to wait from launch to the start of season 1? We're currently 5 weeks in, during which time we've had one new gun introduced.
I'm trusting the people at Respawn to know what they're doing, but this is a competitive market and they need to be on the ball with things here because a lot of the gamers in this demographic will have pretty short attention spans, especially when a competitor is offering free battle passes for their product right now.

There will come a point where some people will get tired of waiting and move on. I'm not saying we're there yet but I'm not sure a few more weeks of nothing is what's needed here.
Well, they said they'll have the first season starting in March, so unless something changes they'll be quite well in the timeframe. Even March 31 would make Apex Legends one of the shooters that got meaningful updates the quickest this generation. As exemplified above, games like PUBG, Fortnite, Call Of Duty, Destiny, etc. took quite some time to reach the state Apex Legends will be in less than 2 months after launch.
 

Vipu

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Well, they said they'll have the first season starting in March, so unless something changes they'll be quite well in the timeframe. Even March 31 would make Apex Legends one of the shooters that got meaningful updates the quickest this generation. As exemplified above, games like PUBG, Fortnite, Call Of Duty, Destiny, etc. took quite some time to reach the state Apex Legends will be in less than 2 months after launch.
PUBG is not even close to being in state that Apex is already and when was PUBG released? 2 years ago? Hah!
 

TP-DK

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Oct 28, 2017
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Yes!
I love to try to be useful while being downed, fuck with the doors when enemy try to do something, block possible bullets by being in between friend and enemy, etc etc
Fucking with the doors is the best. Once, a player downed me and was throwing an arc-star at me to finish me, but right as he threw I closed the door right infront of him and he was killed by his own arc-star.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The games barely been out a month, y'all have crazy expectations.
But the game didn’t have a release date? They could have launched in march with a battle pass if they wanted. I understand watching the sandbox for a month but the tweets seem to indicate lots of work still to do.

I can be patient but not sure what the big secret is on their plans. They’re the ones who said march to begin with.
 

o Tesseract

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Oct 28, 2017
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Just had a game this morning with the most loot greedy player I've ever seen.

Jumping on every deathbox as soon as it appears while me and the other guy were fighting off enemies. Cleaning out nearby loot bins while I'm using the respawn beacon and diving on care packages the second they land.

Was really hard work. Luckily the other guy I was with was decent, and he revived me a couple of times and pinged loot for me.
Once had a case where I was playing with my bro as well as a rando. We cleared a team but I had traded with the last guy I downed. My teammate walked up to me, started reviving me, then noticed that the box of the last guy I killed was gold. Dude literally stopped reviving me to check the box and then came to pick me up.

Safe to say I did not revive him when he later got downed because I don't play with shit like that.
 

Lone_Prodigy

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Once had a case where I was playing with my bro as well as a rando. We cleared a team but I had traded with the last guy I downed. My teammate walked up to me, started reviving me, then noticed that the box of the last guy I killed was gold. Dude literally stopped reviving me to check the box and then came to pick me up.

Safe to say I did not revive him when he later got downed because I don't play with shit like that.
A gold box seen from a distance is like a giant spotlight for other teams. It probably wasn't what he had in mind but looting it before reviving you was the correct play.
 

MegaSackman

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Oct 27, 2017
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I believe people wouldn't be so nervous if they didn't say anything about a battle pass on march. I don't actually need the battle pass to drop something like today but I'd like an announcement, I have in game currency and money that I don't want to spend because I was told a battle pass will come out this month.

If the battle pass was due to a month or two away, I would just use my materials and money in the game or something else, now I just don't receive anything anymore and I can't purchase anything either.

It's not something to get crazy tho, I can play other games as well and do other stuff but when my friends are online this is the game we play (and we still have a lot of fun).
 

Nappuccino

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Oct 25, 2017
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Had a match where a guy actually stayed to see if I’d revive him while I was squabbin with 5 other players. Ended up surviving with 5 kills to boot and I managed to snag the revive.

We died 20 seconds later but still

It’s the principal of a guy just chillin hoping you’ll pull through for the team. It’s cool when that happens and it tends to happen with the newer players...

Wish more randoms had that mindset. Just B E L I E V E
I tend to stick around a bit and I'll ping myself if my team isn't in a firefight. But once they start running in another direction, and show no interest in grabbing me up, I'll leave :(
 

jviggy43

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Oct 28, 2017
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To be fair and somewhat critical, when it comes to a game like Apex, I don't think radio silence is a good thing to practice when they have players with 20+ days on it and millions of others.

If Respawn expects for people to follow, they need to keep people who are investing time into this game in the loop, otherwise they're going to get frustrated. I understand that there are hundreds of gears that need to move at the same time at once, and it takes time to make sure things go smoothly on releases, but it seems that F2P gamers are treating these types of games like mid-long term market investments.

Sadly, I have about 10 days played. A lot of those days were made when it first launched, but I've stopped playing the game as much because it just feels empty. I'm Level 100, stopped getting Apex packs (I've only spent $10, I'm not spending anymore), winning in the game is easy now because of how easy it is to read the patterns of the map's areas, as well as loot patterns with Pit, Swamp, and others.

It really feels like rinse-repeat. The champion leaks are looking good because that's seriously what this game needs, as well as more interesting weapons and maybe some in game events.
This summarizes my feelings perfectly. they never should have said March if they didnt have a date ready and if they do have a date ready they should have told us. With dmc5 and sekiro next week it's looking like I wont even bother with the update or battlepass once it actually drops.

And then I worry how long the next season will take. One new hero and some more levels to grind for arent going to keep holding players attention for another few months. shroud and justin were bitching about not wanting to play the game because of how boring it's become and twitch numbers are dropping. I worry they wont be able to keep up with content to keep it relevant.
 

jviggy43

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It was updated and no longer is up. I'm telling you this thing isnt coming out until the last possible day in March.
 

dmoe

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Oct 25, 2017
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I didn’t record it and I’m never gonna top it.

Landed as pathfinder and ran around with no gun in the beginning. Guy comes up to me starts shooting. I start punching. He goes to jump off the building and I throw my grapple. It barely catches his head as he drops down. Pulls him back up. I punch him and kill him.
 

f0rk

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Oct 25, 2017
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This summarizes my feelings perfectly. they never should have said March if they didnt have a date ready and if they do have a date ready they should have told us. With dmc5 and sekiro next week it's looking like I wont even bother with the update or battlepass once it actually drops.

And then I worry how long the next season will take. One new hero and some more levels to grind for arent going to keep holding players attention for another few months. shroud and justin were bitching about not wanting to play the game because of how boring it's become and twitch numbers are dropping. I worry they wont be able to keep up with content to keep it relevant.
It is actually impossible to keep you happy by any current standards.
 

jviggy43

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It is actually impossible to keep you happy by any current standards.
Disagree entirely. Communication alone would mitigate a lot of peoples' frustration. It also doesnt change the fact that the reality isnt going to be kind to this game of this is the pace and communication they're going to take. People lose interest quickly, and there are so many good games to play.
 

Deception

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Nov 15, 2017
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The game has been out a month and people are complaining about being burned out? There is no reason for them to rush a half-baked battlepass and if they need to take an extra week or so to make it right then so be it.
 
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