nothing better than getting respawned outside the ring in three strikes. apparently it occurs after you use valkryie's ultimate
good going, Respawn!
good going, Respawn!
Those three will always get picked thanks to mobility or the pure extra healthwhy do people think Horizon, Pathfinder or Revenant is useful in 3 strikes?
why do people think Horizon, Pathfinder or Revenant is useful in 3 strikes?
Honestly I can't understand why people imagine it would stay. It's so poorly designed in terms of balance. Three strikes is fine as a temp mode where stats aren't tracked but it would wear thin really quickly if it was in permanently.
I like the idea of reducing the punishment for dying and encouraging more fights but I think the whole revive system is awful. It's too abusable and just encourages people to hold hands with the cringiest team comps in the game.
Completely agree.Honestly I can't understand why people imagine it would stay. It's so poorly designed in terms of balance. Three strikes is fine as a temp mode where stats aren't tracked but it would wear thin really quickly if it was in permanently.
I like the idea of reducing the punishment for dying and encouraging more fights but I think the whole revive system is awful. It's too abusable and just encourages people to hold hands with the cringiest team comps in the game.
Honestly I can't understand why people imagine it would stay. It's so poorly designed in terms of balance. Three strikes is fine as a temp mode where stats aren't tracked but it would wear thin really quickly if it was in permanently.
I like the idea of reducing the punishment for dying and encouraging more fights but I think the whole revive system is awful. It's too abusable and just encourages people to hold hands with the cringiest team comps in the game.
Fun crazy high octane fights. The downtime is reduced by like 90% and you can have games wherever you're fighting for like 19 minutes straight.
It's also great because it allows you to just have fun, not care about dying and keep on trucking.
It needs work because if it was permanent then it'll very quickly end up being a gamemode with like 5 Legends played. However they can possibly implement the extra lives in regular BR? Maybe just one extra life and change res times to 3.5 seconds instead of 5/6 whatever it is now?
Fun crazy high octane fights. The downtime is reduced by like 90% and you can have games wherever you're fighting for like 19 minutes straight.
It's also great because it allows you to just have fun, not care about dying and keep on trucking.
It needs work because if it was permanent then it'll very quickly end up being a gamemode with like 5 Legends played. However they can possibly implement the extra lives in regular BR? Maybe just one extra life and change res times to 3.5 seconds instead of 5/6 whatever it is now?
The game needs a permanent LTM playlist - I've been saying this for awhile. And in that playlist they should put Three Srikes and Straight Shot and when they get another LTM that's worth anything, throw it in there too. The base BR game and ranked are the same exact experience minus the ranked rules and matchmaking. It needs some alternative takes on the BR (not just TDM or Control, etc) and honestly, there's just no reason why they shouldn't do it.
In my experience, everyone I know only plays ranked. Pubs is there for almost no reason now. It's ranked or nothing. So these LTM's are literally the only other way to enjoy the BR in a new way.
Just as a high level sentiment to the folks that responded to me, to clarify I'm not opposed to Respawn including a mode that encourages more action, or shifts the regular gameplay away ranked a little bit. I just think that, as it is right now, three strikes is really poorly implemented. The whole instant revive and HP is just silly.
It's not just the character classes it's also the weapons and the design of the game that it messes up. Nothing but a close range fight matters, and yes obviously Lifeline, Mirage and such are overpowered but that's just one of the issues with the mode. They need to figure a lot of things out before they consider anything like this entering as a permanant mode.
There are a load of modes in the game, with even less downtime than three strikes, though. I just had two back to back 4k+ games in control. You can't get quite as high damage in control but you get a much higher rate of engagment than even in three strikes.
And half of the knocks you get in three strikes don't even feel like proper fights. Sure you end up with 4000-10000 damage at the end of a game, but half of that is against someone that's been knocked revived over and over again. I don't think that's very interesting. You get a lot more proper action in the mixtape playlist.
I think the problems with three strikes are the res time and the fact that you can't thirst a knock. It's very abusable. I think maybe they could make it so that you can only thirst by using an exection? I think that would be very fair. Executions carry a huge risk and basically aren't used in regular play as a result.
It would make more sense if your team just had a cumulative or seperate life pool, rather than the current three strike system. Because if you are unrecoverable and out of the game, you can't revive until your other team mates die, which means your other team mates can get to end circle without you, and then die. That really doesn't work out very well because it creates scenarios where the best option is for your surviving team members to kill themselves, rather than to play it out. Otherwise they can hit the revive cutoff and be stuck alone.
I jusk think they need to experiment with it a bit more, rather than even considering putting this in as a permanant mode.
I don't think the data they have supports that. When you look at the ranked playerbase it's really small. EA say they have 18 million monthly players, but if you look at the ranked engagement it's only 3 million, and 25% of those don't move out of rookie 4 (so probably just a game or two).
Just anecdotally, right now in my friends list, there are 14 people online and 2 of them are playing ranked. The thing about ranked is that people have this thought process around it where they don't want to play alone, and it's not the case that most people have a full squad to play with. Even though I do play ranked I don't play it alone, so I end up mostly playing other modes, and it's the same with my friends, none of us want to solo queue. It's also worth highlighting that none are playing third strikes and the queue times for third strikes are dreadful.
The mode that they've experimented with that is a faster action BR that you're describing is Straight Shot, which I also loved.
Edit: Three Strikes is essentially Respawn's answer to COD's Resurgence mode - although I think Three Strikes is way more fun because of the stupid TTK in COD.
On your very last point though — Three Strikes queue times for me in NYC is instant. Every single time. So I don't know if that's a UK thing or not but the minute I ready up, the game gets me into a lobby.
In the UK at least the queue times are actually insane much of the time, often 2-4 minute wait.
Are you playing alone? I think they factor teamplay in so it might be because they're trying to find a team of three. I've only played it with friends but our queue time is longer than ranked play.
I've been playing solo and it's been taking up to 2 minutes to put me in a game on 3 Strikes. Definetly trying to squeeze the most sweatiesat master/pred players into one lobby.
Feels like new season is soon and we know almost nothing, weird.
No new map until season 22 💀
New legend looks kinda cool, that may bring me back for a bit.
If the broken moon changes are good, that could be enough for me. 12 v 12 tdm is coming next season too, according to leaks at least.
Also…. I know y'all solo players are checking this out:
View: https://x.com/osvaldatore/status/1784926891087995289?s=46
So then it looks like the matchmaking is way longer for you guys since you're masters. I'm a plat scrub so it throws me in with the normcore lobbies.
Don't think it has anything to do with ranked though. I don't play ranked much anymore so I don't even get beyond plat/diamond.
Like right now I'm Plat 1 but I literally can't find another window to play before the split ends. Work, work conferences and social expectations with friends and family leave me without much time and in the time I do have I can't even guarantee I have anyone to play with.
They've sometimes announced stuff or teased things during ALGS yeah. It's certainly possible.Wonder if they are holding off the big reveal for the LAN finals that is happening this weekend.
I know Rainbow Six used to do that a lot but I dont know if Respawn thinks of Apex as esports as Ubi did with Rainbow Six.