Apple announces updated MacBook Air with scissor-switch keyboard

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It’s a $99 for twice the cores. Think of how absurd it is to use a dual core in 2020 let alone in 2024. Spend the $99 and you’ll get a few more years out of this thing.
I wouldn't know honestly, hence why I'm asking in the first place. But if it's truly beneficial from a future proof standpoint, then maybe I will.
 
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LtOrange

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I ordered the i5, 8 ram and 512 storage. Should I have upgraded the ram? I am kinda on a time crunch and need a computer by next week. The 16 ram isn’t available until April, but now I am worried about all these future proof comments. I just need something to email, web browse and use office apps on.
 

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I ordered the i5, 8 ram and 512 storage. Should I have upgraded the ram? I am kinda on a time crunch and need a computer by next week. The 16 ram isn’t available until April, but now I am worried about all these future proof comments. I just need something to email, web browse and use office apps on.
RAM would be the first upgrade I make tbh
 

Falch

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There’s rumours Apple will announce new MacBook Pro’s end of the month. Worth waiting or should I go for the new Air?
 

Azerare

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The new air seems worth a consideration. I'll have to wait and see how the new rumored 14inch mbp will be
 

earthsucks

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my 2012 air is on it's lsat legs. do i get this, or wait for the new pro? worried the latter will be insanely expensive when and if it comes, though.
 

leder

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Base model seems worthless, and the i5 is the same price as a 13” mbp. Meh. I’ll wait.
 

Fatoy

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£1,500ish for the i7, 16GB of RAM, and the 512GB SSD seems pretty decent. I'm still rocking a 2015 MBP that's a lot less capable than that, so it's weird to consider that moving to the Air would be a big upgrade.
 

Yogi

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This is 10nm intel processors yes?

i7
16GB
1TB SSD
£1,849

Drop 8GB ram, switch to i5
£1,499

Meh. I'll set a nice wallpaper on a windows laptop that I can install things on.
So these prices turned out not so different from Microsoft's Surface Book and the Dell XPS.
 
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I am still on my 2015 air. Need to refresh. But all the reviews said the new air was slow last year.
So should I get these? I don't intend on spending over a 1k bucks on it though. so is i3 okay for daily tasks or is it too "potato specs" for a $999 laptop?
 

WillJoe

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I ordered the i5, 8 ram and 512 storage. Should I have upgraded the ram? I am kinda on a time crunch and need a computer by next week. The 16 ram isn’t available until April, but now I am worried about all these future proof comments. I just need something to email, web browse and use office apps on.
i wouldn't buy any computer today with less than 16GB RAM especially an expensive purchase like this where you can't upgrade it yourself and that you'd hope to last a good few years.

i5 cpu will be more than enough. storage is totally up to you. i'm looking at getting the i5/16gb/512gb model. seems the best option.
I am still on my 2015 air. Need to refresh. But all the reviews said the new air was slow last year.
So should I get these? I don't intend on spending over a 1k bucks on it though. so is i3 okay for daily tasks or is it too "potato specs" for a $999 laptop?
would not go with the i3 since it's still dual core.

the i3/8gb model is a bit of a joke. i5/16gb minimum but that's just me.
 

Jeff Albertson

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Ordered my first ever MacBook (just the base model)

I’m in the UK, I shouldn’t expect to get this delivered until the lockdown and everything else is over right?

First world problems
 

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I'm out. Back to waiting for the 13" Pro refresh. Not that I was looking for Pro performance in an Air, but climbing to 100 degrees and throttling in seconds when you do anything even mildly intensive is a big nope from me. You're basically paying for a processor you'll never get to use because the cooling solution is so poor.
 
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I'm out. Back to waiting for the 13" Pro refresh. Not that I was looking for Pro performance in an Air, but climbing to 100 degrees and throttling in seconds when you do anything even mildly intensive is a big nope from me. You're basically paying for a processor you'll never get to use because the cooling solution is so poor.
Eh, I think the methodology he used to come to that conclusion about the temperature is a bit flawed, based on what I've been reading:


Problem in the video - Max signed on into his iCloud on a NEW MBP Air, and it was downloading and encorporating his video/photos from icloud and also keychain. That is why it is running at 70 Degrees, but it is not idling - it is working actually.
Second hint is that his benchmarks got lower score on this first video, while in the second video it scored much higher. This also suggests us, that first benchmark he got has lower scores because new Air was already doing some kind of background tasks.
Correct. The vlogger's methodology is critically flawed.

The system is doing the typical things it does when it is first booted and after major OS upgrades.

If he bothered to look at Activity Monitor, it would have showed processes like 'mdworker', 'lsd' and others churning away. These processes are related to system housekeeping activities like Spotlight indexing, certificate management, etc.

This is the same mistake made by a lot of people who ask "Why is my brand new Mac____ so slow?"

After all of these tasks are complete, I'm willing to bet that the idle CPU temperature is about 40°C.

Don't trust dilettante vloggers for accurate product reviews.



I'm waiting on other reviews to comment about the heating issue before I entirely trust it at this point.
 

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Eh, I think the methodology he used to come to that conclusion about the temperature is a bit flawed, based on what I've been reading:







I'm waiting on other reviews to comment about the heating issue before I entirely trust it at this point.
Hm, interesting. Well, either way I'm back to waiting.
 

Astandahl

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Guys do you think that 16gb of ram are a must or 8gb are enough?

I would use the air for work stuff ( excel and broswing more or less ).
 

Voyager

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Eh, I think the methodology he used to come to that conclusion about the temperature is a bit flawed, based on what I've been reading:







I'm waiting on other reviews to comment about the heating issue before I entirely trust it at this point.
Sounds like this is only an issue if you play games. I plan to use this, primarily, for internet browsing. Gonna jump on this in about a month.
 

CloseTalker

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Guys do you think that 16gb of ram are a must or 8gb are enough?

I would use the air for work stuff ( excel and broswing more or less ).
If you have the money to spare, CPU and RAM are the top 2 upgrades imo. Macs are pretty well optimized at running multiple apps, but RAM is one of things you don't know how much you loved until it's gone.
 

wenis

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I think im 100% down to get this. It's been awhile since I've had a non-work laptop and I do enjoy the experience of having one while I'm on the couch or want to go out (lol) and still have access to a computer.
 

Cruxist

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Good to see more reviews on this. I always regretted going with the pro back when I bought my current laptop. But this one is coming up on 7 years at this point and while it still trucks along, I'm at the point where I'd like something new and the Air is right in the sweet spot for my uses.