Apple |OT|

justin haines · Jul 9, 2019

Rusty Shackelford said:
Recently quit video games and been on an apple spree with most recently a HomePod ( With Phillips Hue lights), an iPad ( regular but waiting for return to get mini instead), and an Xr. Biggest surprises were the HomePod and enjoying the compatibility with all my devices and the pencil with the ipad

HomePod is an awesome device. its especially convenient for the kids to talk to to grandma through or Completely hands off phone calling and texting while I'm in the kitchen or Living room (my HomePod is in between both)

the sound is fantastic for apple music, and I use it to check weather or news in a snap when needed. Obvious timers for cooking, and the rest of Siri like throwing a reminder down quick, or adding something to my grocery list.

multiuser support and handoff on HomePod will be nice come iOS13.

DekuBleep · Jul 9, 2019

https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/09/rip-macbook-escape/

Apple no longer sells a MBP without a touch bar or with a physical escape key.

Omg.

Yes I know I'm late...

TheRaidenPT · Jul 9, 2019

Fliesen said:
For me it's the latter.

Like, my Late 2012 First gen retina 13inch was deemed "underpowered" at release(!) and it's performing perfectly fine. (Although, those 4K videos shot on my iPhone XS stutter a bit...)

But more screen real estate would be swell

My keyboard is heating up all the time like hell I had to do a fan curve to keep it at around 36% fan speed to have it being around 40-45º... This is a dual core design come on........

DekuBleep said:
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/09/rip-macbook-escape/

Apple no longer sells a MBP without a touch bar or with a physical escape key.

Omg.

Yes I know I'm late...

I'm quite curious to see what comes next in terms of Touch Bar.

renegade_sylens · Jul 9, 2019

I think it was quite evident when the MacBook Air was announced that the MacBook would be on the chopping block. I always thought the experiment to go with the fanless Core M CPU on the MacBook was an experiment Apple was trying and that it wouldn't be extended into the future...

My hunch proved correct...

Klappdrachen · Jul 9, 2019

Does anyone else have trouble loading Twitter on Safari for macOS lately? It's just stuck loading forever and never opens. Tried it in Chrome and it loads fine, but I only use Chrome for work. Clearing cache didn't do anything.

Mana Latte · Jul 9, 2019

justin haines said:
HomePod is an awesome device. its especially convenient for the kids to talk to to grandma through or Completely hands off phone calling and texting while I'm in the kitchen or Living room (my HomePod is in between both)

the sound is fantastic for apple music, and I use it to check weather or news in a snap when needed. Obvious timers for cooking, and the rest of Siri like throwing a reminder down quick, or adding something to my grocery list.

multiuser support and handoff on HomePod will be nice come iOS13.

Yeah I love it. Sound is great and can't wait for auto music when I come home

pksu · Jul 9, 2019

Funny how new MBPs still have models with tiny 128 GB SSD considering current prices. At least they don't offer 4 GB RAM anymore.

Mack · Jul 9, 2019

Does the new MacBook Air (the one with the True Tone display) has a scissor-switch keyboard?

Deleted member 9330 · Jul 9, 2019

Mack said:
Does the new MacBook Air (the one with the True Tone display) have a scissor-switch keyboard?

Same 3.5 gen butterfly keyboard from last month

Technosteve · Jul 9, 2019

WHEN WILL THEY REPLACE KEYBOARD! I NEED TO REPLACE MY 2012 MacBook Air! Tim APPLE FIX YOUR MACS

renegade_sylens · Jul 9, 2019

Technosteve said:
WHEN WILL THEY REPLACE KEYBOARD! I NEED TO REPLACE MY 2012 MacBook Air! Tim APPLE FIX YOUR MACS

Rumors are pointing to late 2019 when Apple releases the new Macbook Air

Mafro · Jul 9, 2019

What exactly was the point of the 12 inch MacBook? I remember at the time everyone (including myself) was just wanting a retina Air.

Technosteve · Jul 9, 2019

Mafro said:
What exactly was the point of the 12 inch MacBook? I remember at the time everyone (including myself) was just wanting a retina Air.

my educated take, ARM laptop this is where apple wants to go in terms of design and thermal limits. Intel can't deliver on these chips so this entire line got killed.

Kitten Mittens · Jul 9, 2019

https://www.macrumors.com/2019/07/09/airpods-3-water-resistance-release-date-rumor/

Deleted member 8860 · Jul 9, 2019

renegade_sylens said:
Rumors are pointing to late 2019 when Apple releases the new Macbook Air

Is Apple going to update the Air twice in less than six months? The refresh that was just announced is probably it for the year.

renegade_sylens · Jul 9, 2019

emag said:
Is Apple going to update the Air twice in less than six months? The refresh that was just announced is probably it for the year.

Good point, if not that, then most likely the new keyboard will come along with the redesigned 16-inch MBP, mentioned in that same article...

Deleted member 9330 · Jul 9, 2019

emag said:
Is Apple going to update the Air twice in less than six months? The refresh that was just announced is probably it for the year.

The refresh ONLY changed the screen to True Tone and the price of storage upgrades. No change to processors or anything else

Deleted member 2226 · Jul 9, 2019

emag said:
Is Apple going to update the Air twice in less than six months? The refresh that was just announced is probably it for the year.

Zeyphersan said:
The refresh ONLY changed the screen to True Tone and the price of storage upgrades. No change to processors or anything else

Don't forget the keyboard, but yeah, it's a pretty minor feature bump.

Kitten Mittens said:
Apple discontinuing the 12 inch MB apparently and they just updated the low end MBP...and added a Touchbar to it. Nothing could be a bigger downgrade to that machine than adding a TB to it. Yuck. Looks like I'm still out until they deliver a MBP without TB and with a non-defective keyboard. My 2014 MBP lumbers on.

Edit: Macbook Air also updated with TrueTone Display and had the price dropped to 1099. No processor/keyboard upgrades. It's like Apple are actively daring people to buy bad computers.

You get a better product for cheaper. Seems like a solid move. Especially since there aren't any processor upgrades actually out there for them to slap into it...

I'm pretty sure the vocal people about the Touch Bar are not the majority of users, and if they keep it around on the next MacBook Pro that's pretty solid evidence that the vocal group is the minority.

Vanillalite · Jul 9, 2019

Thanks for all of the replies on the Pro.

Is a keyboard case a must?

Honestly wish the iPad Air had the Pro design and I'd be fine with that, but I dont want the old iPad design with a home button anymore.

PS: 128gig needs to die across all higher end laptops. From the Surface to the Air just make everything 256 gig base please.

Vuze · Jul 10, 2019

Can files simply vanish from iCloud Drive? I noticed two payment receipts from last month have disappeared. Can't see them in their folder on any device. They aren't in the "recently deleted" option in web iCloud (that for some reason you apparently can only access that way). They are in a recent Time Machine backup however. (And of course I didn't delete them.)

Pretty angsty right now that this might happen to other stuff.

Is there a way to completely backup your iCloud Drive to a physical media short of permanently having everything on your Mac (of course you got to do it once anyway in some way or shape but I mean without all data being permanently stored on the machine)?

Fliesen · Jul 10, 2019

Vuze said:
Can files simply vanish from iCloud Drive? I noticed two payment receipts from last month have disappeared. Can't see them in their folder on any device. They aren't in the "recently deleted" option in web iCloud (that for some reason you apparently can only access that way). They are in a recent Time Machine backup however. (And of course I didn't delete them.)

Pretty angsty right now that this might happen to other stuff.

Is there a way to completely backup your iCloud Drive to a physical media short of permanently having everything on your Mac (of course you got to do it once anyway in some way or shape but I mean without all data being permanently stored on the machine)?

Hmmm, can't say that i ever had that happen to me 🤔

TheRaidenPT · Jul 10, 2019

Vuze said:
Can files simply vanish from iCloud Drive? I noticed two payment receipts from last month have disappeared. Can't see them in their folder on any device. They aren't in the "recently deleted" option in web iCloud (that for some reason you apparently can only access that way). They are in a recent Time Machine backup however. (And of course I didn't delete them.)

Pretty angsty right now that this might happen to other stuff.

Is there a way to completely backup your iCloud Drive to a physical media short of permanently having everything on your Mac (of course you got to do it once anyway in some way or shape but I mean without all data being permanently stored on the machine)?

Er... only if you deleted by accident in another device

timeforsana · Jul 10, 2019

Anybody struggling to get files onto an iPad on the iPad OS beta? I've tried both Airdrop and using a memory stick and each time I try to copy files over I get "The operation couldn't be completed. Bad address".

Vuze · Jul 10, 2019

₩olf said:
Anybody struggling to get files onto an iPad on the iPad OS beta? I've tried both Airdrop and using a memory stick and each time I try to copy files over I get "The operation couldn't be completed. Bad address".

Yeah, anything files related is completely borked for me in beta 3 as well, I stopped doing anything in that regard on my iPad for now (kinda have a hunch that's where my aforementioned problem stems from even if it doesn't make much sense).

timeforsana · Jul 10, 2019

Vuze said:
Yeah, anything files related is completely borked for me in beta 3 as well, I stopped doing anything in that regard on my iPad for now (kinda have a hunch that's where my aforementioned problem stems from even if it doesn't make much sense).

I've actually managed it now, saved it to the iPad itself rather than iCloud Drive and it worked. So seems to be an iCloud Drive problem.

Mack · Jul 10, 2019

A question about those butterfly keyboards in new MacBooks. Do keys really get stuck by just letting some dust underneath them? I don't mind short key travel, but would be infuriated if some dust fucked up my typing experience.

Ambitious · Jul 10, 2019

Don't they sell silicone cases for the iPhone X anymore? Can't find any in the Apple Store app.

Fliesen · Jul 10, 2019

Ambitious said:
Don't they sell silicone cases for the iPhone X anymore? Can't find any in the Apple Store app.

i THINK the camera bump on the XS is a bit bigger than the one on the X, so XS cases should fit the X fine, but not the other way around

iPhone X in a XS case

XS in a X case

Deleted member 8901 · Jul 10, 2019

Imagine spending $80 CAD on an iPhone case with a misaligned camera cutout.

Fliesen · Jul 10, 2019

Mint said:
Imagine spending $80 CAD on an iPhone case with a misaligned camera cutout.

Well, then ... don't?

Ambitious · Jul 10, 2019

Fliesen said:
i THINK the camera bump on the XS is a bit bigger than the one on the X, so XS cases should fit the X fine, but not the other way around

iPhone X in a XS case

XS in a X case

Oh, indeed. Well, that's not that bad. But I guess I'll check Amazon and some local stores first.

Vanillalite · Jul 10, 2019

Mack said:
A question about those butterfly keyboards in new MacBooks. Do keys really get stuck by just letting some dust underneath them? I don't mind short key travel, but would be infuriated if some dust fucked up my typing experience.

I'd HIGHLY suggest waiting if the rumors are true. No reason to get a butterfly mac if you dont have to.

turbobrick · Jul 10, 2019

Mack said:
A question about those butterfly keyboards in new MacBooks. Do keys really get stuck by just letting some dust underneath them? I don't mind short key travel, but would be infuriated if some dust fucked up my typing experience.

Its honestly not even worth taking the risk if the rumors are true about a design change. While there is a replacement plan, depending on how long you keep your computer it still wont be enough.

Deleted member 9330 · Jul 10, 2019

Vuze said:
Can files simply vanish from iCloud Drive? I noticed two payment receipts from last month have disappeared. Can't see them in their folder on any device. They aren't in the "recently deleted" option in web iCloud (that for some reason you apparently can only access that way). They are in a recent Time Machine backup however. (And of course I didn't delete them.)

Pretty angsty right now that this might happen to other stuff.

Is there a way to completely backup your iCloud Drive to a physical media short of permanently having everything on your Mac (of course you got to do it once anyway in some way or shape but I mean without all data being permanently stored on the machine)?

Yes, especially because Files on the beta is FUCKED.
iCloud.com -> Preferences -> Recover files

Book One · Jul 10, 2019

Target has some clearance for iPad Pro 10.5" apple accessories. You can get the gray Smart Cover for 12 bucks and the black sleeve with Pencil holder for $28.

Vuze · Jul 10, 2019

Zeyphersan said:
Yes, especially because Files on the beta is FUCKED.
iCloud.com -> Preferences -> Recover files

Thanks, there was some stuff there but mostly just random duplicates that the system created and then deleted while leaving 5 other copies around lol. Yikes. Feel bad for the peeps who are iOS only and don't have a local backup of atleast part of their iCloud. Really need to look into how I can backup the whole thing, ideally including app data. It's kinda crazy there is no obvious way to do this it seems.

Deleted member 9330 · Jul 10, 2019

Vuze said:
Thanks, there was some stuff there but mostly just random duplicates that the system created and then deleted while leaving 5 other copies around lol. Yikes. Feel bad for the peeps who are iOS only and don't have a local backup of atleast part of their iCloud. Really need to look into how I can backup the whole thing, ideally including app data. It's kinda crazy there is no obvious way to do this it seems.

You mean me? 😒 I have tons of important shit in my documents, it better not disappear

Vuze · Jul 10, 2019

Zeyphersan said:
You mean me? 😒 I have tons of important shit in my documents, it better not disappear

Oh, did you sell off your iMac? Damn, I just couldn't do without a desktop OS at all, this situation is just another case in point.

In any case, no idea what happened to these two documents. I wonder if they'll be back after beta 4 hopefully fixes the iCloud issues. As for the dupes, I imagine fetching all files and directories with space and n at the end should work pretty well unless somebody has some pretty shitty file naming scheme going on heh.

Deleted member 9330 · Jul 10, 2019

Vuze said:
Oh, did you sell off your iMac? Damn, I just couldn't do without a desktop OS at all, this situation is just another case in point.

In any case, no idea what happened to these two documents. I wonder if they'll be back after beta 4 hopefully fixes the iCloud issues. As for the dupes, I imagine fetching all files and directories with space and n at the end should work pretty well unless somebody has some pretty shitty file naming scheme going on heh.

I technically still have my iMac but it's getting listed for sale tomorrow.

Steve Troughton-Smith has an encouraging thread regarding all this, hope it's accurate

Popstar · Jul 10, 2019

Klappdrachen · Jul 10, 2019

Popstar said:
Twitter's website only works for me in Safari if I'm not logged in. Been like that for months. Embedded tweets also don't show up properly in posts if I'm logged in.

Yeah I noticed that embedded tweets are borked too, it's really annoying. They worked for me until a few weeks ago, just like Twitter itself. I wonder if it's a problem on Safaris end or it's just Twitter that's changed somehow. At least now I know I'm not the only one.

degauss · Jul 11, 2019

Vuze said:
Yikes. Feel bad for the peeps who are iOS only and don't have a local backup of atleast part of their iCloud. Really need to look into how I can backup the whole thing, ideally including app data. It's kinda crazy there is no obvious way to do this it seems.

To clarify, is this only if you installed a beta? I know there have been some iCloud downtime issues in general lately.

TBH, I rely heavily on iCloud and don't have another backup at the moment, mostly just my photo library.

Vuze · Jul 11, 2019

degauss said:
To clarify, is this only if you installed a beta? I know there have been some iCloud downtime issues in general lately.

TBH, I rely heavily on iCloud and don't have another backup at the moment, mostly just my photo library.

Yeah, it's an issue with the iOS 13 beta (perhaps Catalina too, not sure), I haven't heard anyone saying it's a general issue. The issue of duplicate files/folders/seemingly vanished files is caused by the iOS 13 device but spreads to your stable devices via sync.

Deleted member 2226 · Jul 11, 2019

Maybe don't install a beta on a device you need to actually rely on...

renegade_sylens · Jul 11, 2019

fuchsdh said:
Maybe don't install a beta on a device you need to actually rely on...

I don't know why people don't heed this advice...IT'S A FREAKIN BETA PEOPLE!! BUGS ARE GOING TO BE THERE! DATA LOSS WILL HAPPEN!!

Kitten Mittens · Jul 11, 2019

Geekbench scores for the newly announced entry level MBP with 2 ports:

New 2019 1.4 GHz MacBook Pro Entry Level Unit:
Single Core: 4775
Multi Core: 17086

2019 2.4 GHz model:
Single Core: 4993
Multi Core: 18283

Older entry level MBP (before Touch Bar was added):
Single Core: 4220
Multi Core: 8833

MrKlaw · Jul 11, 2019

Kitten Mittens said:
Geekbench scores for the newly announced entry level MBP with 2 ports:

New 2019 1.4 GHz MacBook Pro Entry Level Unit:
Single Core: 4775
Multi Core: 17086

2.4 GHz model:
Single Core: 4993
Multi Core: 18283

Is that 2.4 figure the old dual core, or the next quad core model up?

Does this one have two fans and exhausts like the others? My biggest issue with the base one isn't the performance, its the relatively hot chassis/keyboard area even with light use

Kitten Mittens · Jul 11, 2019

MrKlaw said:
Is that 2.4 figure the old dual core, or the next quad core model up?

Does this one have two fans and exhausts like the others? My biggest issue with the base one isn't the performance, its the relatively hot chassis/keyboard area even with light use

That's the 2019 quad core model.

MrKlaw · Jul 11, 2019

Kitten Mittens said:
That's the 2019 quad core model.

I'd almost call it value for money but thats only because the previous quad core was so insanely expensive. This is still stupidly expensive (£1300 Vs less than half that for a similar Windows laptop)

Kitten Mittens · Jul 11, 2019

MrKlaw said:
I'd almost call it value for money but thats only because the previous quad core was so insanely expensive. This is still stupidly expensive (£1300 Vs less than half that for a similar Windows laptop)

You're definitely paying the MacOS tax.

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