Oh you sweet summer childTell your shareholders that you value ethics more than a bit of extra profit.
As if google hasn't been in the news for years for bowing to Chinese demands?This is unacceptable. Thankfully Google offers a great alternative to Apple products.
It's public information. Not a secret who's on their board.
It ultimate wouldn't make a difference. These people aren't gonna choose between a billion potential customers and their job.
This is unacceptable. Thankfully Google offers a great alternative to Apple products.
This is unacceptable. Thankfully Google offers a great alternative to Apple products.
Ayyyy LMAOOOOO. No, fuck Google too.This is unacceptable. Thankfully Google offers a great alternative to Apple products.
Cojones* cajones mean drawers.
Just because it's public doesn't mean it's visible. Nutrition info is also public, you still have to tell people if it's a really bad idea to eat it.
Or another example is local elections. They are public, but unless the local media runs a story on why a candidate sucks you really don't have much to say about them because you don't know them.
Do me a favor and google, "China Google controversy" and get back to me lolThis is unacceptable. Thankfully Google offers a great alternative to Apple products.
Thanks for the sensible post.Hmm. This looks about 75% Phone Warz and 25% ethical disaster.
On the other hand, it's true that Apple follows the laws of the countries they do business in, and where those laws are abusive or suppressive they act in ways that are brutal or suppressive. That's worthy of condemnation.
- The statement from Apple never states this was due to pressure from China, but rather pressure from Hong Kong due to ambush of police and making people feel unsafe by identifying where police are absent. That may be bullshit but it isn't a directive from "China"/ the CCP.
- The app was on the store for 5 days. The claim that this was commonly used by protestors seems misleading since practically all protest action thus far happened before the app was available.
- The service is still accessible from iPhones as a web service. It's hard to see why the app is even necessary in that case.
- Furthering the point about the web service as an alternative, the app actually represents a risk for the users in that Apple must have records of which Apple accounts have retrieved the app from the App Store, information that Apple could be compelled to turn over to HK authorities. Removing the app removes that legal risk for Apple and the protestors. I have to wonder if demands for user data wasn't at least on the minds of Apple's legal department when they advised on this.
Capitalism was never democratic to begin with. It cares not about concepts like that. It's like an eldritch horror with its own goals and desires, and we are merely allowed to exist in its shadow, for now, because we are so insignificant. Of no consequence whatsoever.Eventually capitalism will ditch democracy, dangerous times ahead.
Gaming side-wise, there are a lot of people who have started or plan to start giving Apple $5 a month for their Apple Arcade service. I'm one of them and at the very least I plan to end my subscription today while I spend the rest of the month hunting for a different smartphone provider and I hope others are at least willing to do that much.This will literally blow some people's mind.
Blizzard is easy to avoid, but Apple stuff?
lmao
I don't know if this is a compliment or sarcasm. So, I'll give you a thanks (?)
Issa complimentI don't know if this is a compliment or sarcasm. So, I'll give you thanks (?)
Wow, that list is worrying.Y'all like lists?
Someone on Reddit compiled a nice list!
The list was removed by a mod but here's another source
Good question. I don't know if the reason is known. Tencent invested $150 million in February but that is probably unrelated.
Good question. I don't know if the reason is known. Tencent invested $150 million in February but that is probably unrelated.
You don't get to pick who's on Apple's board.
Only way to get Apple to change it's to make their actions unprofitable. The board won't care otherwise.
You don't pick anyone involved in corporate decisions, that doesn't mean you cannot pressure and make them personally uncomfortable for doing bad things.
Hmm. This looks about 75% Phone Warz and 25% ethical disaster.
On the other hand, it's true that Apple follows the laws of the countries they do business in, and where those laws are abusive or suppressive they act in ways that are brutal or suppressive. That's worthy of condemnation.
- The statement from Apple never states this was due to pressure from China, but rather pressure from Hong Kong due to ambush of police and making people feel unsafe by identifying where police are absent. That may be bullshit but it isn't a directive from "China"/ the CCP.
- The app was on the store for 5 days. The claim that this was commonly used by protestors seems misleading since practically all protest action thus far happened before the app was available.
- The service is still accessible from iPhones as a web service. It's hard to see why the app is even necessary in that case.
- Furthering the point about the web service as an alternative, the app actually represents a risk for the users in that Apple must have records of which Apple accounts have retrieved the app from the App Store, information that Apple could be compelled to turn over to HK authorities. Removing the app removes that legal risk for Apple and the protestors. I have to wonder if demands for user data wasn't at least on the minds of Apple's legal department when they advised on this.
It is no secret that technology can be used for good or for ill. This case is no different. The app in question allowed for the crowdsourced reporting and mapping of police checkpoints, protest hotspots, and other information. On its own, this information is benign.However, over the past several days we received credible information, from the Hong Kong Cybersecurity and Technology Crime Bureau, as well as from users in Hong Kong, that the app was being used maliciously to target individual officers for violence and to victimize individuals and property where no police are present. This use put the app in violation of Hong Kong law. Similarly, widespread abuse clearly violates our App Store guidelines barring personal harm.
It's not that hard. I stopped buying and supporting Apple years ago.This will literally blow some people's mind.
Blizzard is easy to avoid, but Apple stuff?
Why?
If they have concerns that the app is being used to facilitate criminal behaviour then I can understand why Apple wouldn't want it on their store.
Edit: And even if there's a concern over how legitimate that information is, is it Apple's job to counter that/rule otherwise?
I'm not in their eco system at all, but I imagine it would be difficult for people deeply entrenched to get rid of their products. Music purchased, creatives being used to operating their products, having to repurchase software, etc.Apple is super essy to avoid purchasing from them. Will people have the moral conviction to do so? I doubt it.
Apple is super essy to avoid purchasing from them. Will people have the moral conviction to do so? I doubt it.
The App is being used for people to stay safe/informed about what is going on and where. Or are you referring to protesting as 'criminal behavior'?
I'm sure they'd look different when someone is shoving a microphone in their face asking for comment