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Apple Watch Series 5 announced - Always-on Display, new Titanium & Ceramic options, starting at $399 on Sep 20th

Finish?

  • Aluminum

    Votes: 65 43.3%
  • Stainless Steel

    Votes: 40 26.7%
  • Titanium

    Votes: 29 19.3%
  • Ceramic

    Votes: 16 10.7%

  • Total voters
    150

holygeesus

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,979
Apple Watches in cases are very nerdy. After easily breaking my aluminum one, I got a SS one and it hasn’t had a scratch on it for years. The SS ones are much more durable, and definitely don’t need a case.
Agreed. I had a Gen 2 aluminium that was scratched all over, but my Gen 3 SS is still immaculate and I wear it while working (manual labour). Have to admit, the convenience of always on is negated by how it impacts on battery life.
 

Somnid

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,443
I must be missing something. What's the practical benefit of the always-on watch?
I'm not even a fashion person but I had some shower thoughts about this:

A watch is a pretty personal thing because it's worn on the body, it's an accessory as much as it is a piece of tech and Apple's marketing really pushes this. But while Apple Watch is certainly a status symbol, it's not an object d'art and nothing about the design is personal. The people wearing G-shocks do so because it suits their style, the people wearing Apple Watches do so because their spouse couldn't think of a good birthday gift. As a watch accessory it's default. Straps aren't what makes the watch, it's the face. Imagine if you bought a diamond ring but all you saw was an empty socket unless you lifted your wrist to your face. Even Apple's marketing agrees because you won't see promo renders without a watchface even though that's what it looks like 99.9% of the time. Always-on is part of what actually makes it a real personalized accessory, because while 10+ million people are wearing the same body, conceivably they'd have different faces that express themselves. It has small practice uses, but it's really about making something your own. Do you like elegant analog faces? Do you want brutish and modern digital? Crazy Binary? Do you have a favorite character or brand you like to associate with? That's why it matters, especially if you are lying down $400+ for what in all practicality is going to be a glorified step counter.
 

8byte

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,420
Kansas
Would love a series 5, but honestly I think my fiancee and I would be fine upgrading to a Series 3. We're both on Series 1, and it's starting to show its age here and there, and we're both looking for something we can actually take showers in (if necessary).

Can you swim in any of these watches? Also would be a deciding factor for us.
 
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Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,639
USA
Would love a series 5, but honestly I think my fiancee and I would be fine upgrading to a Series 3. We're both on Series 1, and it's starting to show its age here and there, and we're both looking for something we can actually take showers in (if necessary).

Can you swim in any of these watches? Also would be a deciding factor for us.
Apple site says both Series 3 and Series 5 offer swimming features so yes
 

Red

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,342
I am on an Apple Watch series 3 and usually get 2-3 days of use on a charge. It drains 30-40% every 24 hours. I can’t imagine series 4 took a huge leap backward in battery life, or that series 5 wouldn’t remedy such a big generational decrease. How does Apple measure those 18 hours?
 

Dreamwriter

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,427
I am on an Apple Watch series 3 and usually get 2-3 days of use on a charge. It drains 30-40% every 24 hours. I can’t imagine series 4 took a huge leap backward in battery life, or that series 5 wouldn’t remedy such a big generational decrease. How does Apple measure those 18 hours?
Well, the 4 does have a larger display and faster processor, which both take more power. But the battery numbers Apple uses for estimations is based on some theoretical person that uses all the watch features, including like 45 minutes a day listening to music directly from the watch while exercising without their phone.

Edit: Here are the actual measurements:

Apple said:
All-day battery life is based on 18 hours with the following use: 90 time checks, 90 notifications, 45 minutes of app use, and a 60-minute workout with music playback from Apple Watch via Bluetooth, over the course of 18 hours. Apple Watch Series 4 (GPS) usage includes connection to iPhone via Bluetooth during the entire 18-hour test. Apple Watch Series 4 models also provide up to 18 hours of battery life on a Wi-Fi connection.
 

GearDraxon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,203
I still wish they'd make a "stainless steel, but no cellular" version. I have no need for the cell radio, but I love the sapphire glass that comes with the stainless - I don't take any sort of care with it, and I've never seen a scratch. I'm still using the $20 stainless band I got from Amazon for my first-gen Watch, and I routinely get compliments on it.
 

Falus

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,159
I can’t find any answer. Is the always on screen only giving time or it stop at the app you’re using ? Want to know if I can have any map/gps without moving my wrist up to my face
 

fuchsdh

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,189
the watch has a theater mode where the display turns off and won't turn on unless you tap it, which i'd bet works the same way here.

of course, people could be rude and not use it, but they already do that with their phones and shit too. people gonna people
Not to mention there's no way even a max brightness Watch screen is going to be anywhere as disruptive as the blazing rectangles of a lit-up phone.
Ah, that makes sense from a practical view.

I wonder why they don't turn it on for the series 3 and 4 (well I do money lol), Sure it may take a battery hit, but thats up to the consumer to decide to enable it.
You must be new to how Apple operates. They focus on wide applicability, not giving everyone toggles for everything.
 

Zeyphersan

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
4,927
California
Not to mention there's no way even a max brightness Watch screen is going to be anywhere as disruptive as the blazing rectangles of a lit-up phone.


You must be new to how Apple operates. They focus on wide applicability, not giving everyone toggles for everything.
I think about this every time someone suggests a “setting” for something. Yeah, in a vacuum, that could probably be a setting. But spread out to everyone’s requests and preferences and all of a sudden it’s untenable. Even Apple has to pick and choose their battles.
 

Lakeside

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,441
I voted stainless b/c I've had two black models that were perfect after years of use.

I'd consider ceramic and titanium in a heartbeat but haven't seen them.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,246
given the way the always-on display on the 5 works (drop refresh rate, hide the second hand, make brightness super low), and the seemingly negligible internal changes aside from the compass, the only reason i can imagine they couldn't do an always-on display with series 4 is not having a display controller that can vary the refresh rate.
 
Oct 28, 2017
89
I am on an Apple Watch series 3 and usually get 2-3 days of use on a charge. It drains 30-40% every 24 hours. I can’t imagine series 4 took a huge leap backward in battery life, or that series 5 wouldn’t remedy such a big generational decrease. How does Apple measure those 18 hours?
You get 2-3 days of use on a single charge? Usage is based on activities. It'll last longer the more stationary you are. Mine barely lasts a day and a half.
 
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Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,639
USA
I don’t see the point in Apple care for the watch, doesn’t seem like the type of device to need it.
Huh, I actually think its the most perfect device for it. The Apple Care is relatively cheap at $79 or $4 a month, and it gets the most exposure of any device. I’ve smacked mine on plenty of doors and such, so I am glad to have the plan if that kind of contact causes a crack.
 

Soupman Prime

The Fallen
Nov 8, 2017
2,814
Boston, MA
I just got an Xr so not upgrading my phone but I’ve had an Series 3 from jump, how big of an upgrade is the 5 because I may just get that if it is.
 

Mcfrank

Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,637
Huh, I actually think its the most perfect device for it. The Apple Care is relatively cheap at $79 or $4 a month, and it gets the most exposure of any device. I’ve smacked mine on plenty of doors and such, so I am glad to have the plan if that kind of contact causes a crack.
Have a stainless series 2 and it it still in perfect condition. A quick polish and it looks new out of the box. But yeah the aluminum models are more prone to damage.
 
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Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,639
USA
Have a stainless series 2 and it it still in perfect condition. A quick polish and it looks new out of the box. But yeah the aluminum models are more prone to damage.
Yeah that too, I buy the Aluminum models for the price and Nike stuff usually. I keep mine about 2 cycles, so I’m now jumping Series 3 to Series 5.
 

Kaelan

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
744
Maryland
I know this may be stupid, but what does always on mean? Wasn't it always always on? You could always just tap the watch
 

Cation

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
1,382
I don’t see the point in Apple care for the watch, doesn’t seem like the type of device to need it.
As a former Apple technical specialist, it’s the only device I recommend Apple Care for lol.

It’s cheap for what it is and it solves all and any issue with the watch including screen shattering. The alternative to any major accidental damage issues on the Apple Watch is replace the whole unit, which isn’t cheap. You make your money with the first full replacement and then some
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,663
As a former Apple technical specialist, it’s the only device I recommend Apple Care for lol.

It’s cheap for what it is and it solves all and any issue with the watch including screen shattering. The alternative to any major accidental damage issues on the Apple Watch is replace the whole unit, which isn’t cheap. You make your money with the first full replacement and then some
My series 2 got a scratch on it and I was told they couldn’t replace the screen only, it had to be a full each swap so I said forget. From that point AC+ seemed useless to me. I’ve bumped and bang it on numerous occasions and it still working fine. It seems like the most sturdy device to me is also why I think it’s useless.
 

Red

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,342
You get 2-3 days of use on a single charge? Usage is based on activities. It'll last longer the more stationary you are. Mine barely lasts a day and a half.
I usually get around 500 calories on the move ring. I don’t use the exercise mode a whole lot. Lots of notifications though. I also use it for texting and media control. It’s not the LTE version... maybe that’s why?
 

uzipukki

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,421
How is the process to migrate from my old Series 3 to the new Series 5 when it arrives? I'm guessing all of my activity badges etc migrate, but how? Never done it with a watch.
 

Vuze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,286
Same phone, new watch only.
Your Watch backup is part of your phone backup. The phone will ask you if you want to do a current backup and restore from it iirc or choose a previous one. It's absolutely hassle free, you just move the new watch close to your iPhone and set it up.
 

Zeyphersan

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
4,927
California
Same phone, new watch only.
Phone will ask you if you want to do a current backup and restore from it iirc or choose a previous one. It's absolutely hassle free, you just pair the new watch.
Oh does it ask? I always unpaired the old watch first which forces a backup, but it makes sense that pairing a new one has it ask you if you want to back up, and then you can unpair the old one.

Huh. Will have to try next Friday
 

Lakeside

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,441
It always shows the watch face / content now at dimmed brightness, when you have the watch turned away from your body
It's a nice feature but after thinking it over I'll just wait to enjoy that down the road. I'm so used to it waking when I lift my wrist that I'd basically never know anyways.
 
Oct 27, 2017
571
Omaha
I was tempted by this, but I don't want the LTE version. That is $360 ($15 a month) in services charges added in (what happen to $5 a month I was paying for my series 3 service).
True. Wish the plan was a bit cheaper for what it is. But they knock off $5 if you have autopay, and my wife wanted the cellular version anyway. So it happened to work out for me, maybe someone else will be in the same boat.
 

Vuze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,286
Oh does it ask? I always unpaired the old watch first which forces a backup, but it makes sense that pairing a new one has it ask you if you want to back up, and then you can unpair the old one.

Huh. Will have to try next Friday
I'm not 100% on this, it's been a while. I might be mixing it up with the iPhone setup. But yeah, good advice regarding the unpairing just in case.
 

karmaforgotme

Member
Oct 27, 2017
323
Knoxville, TN
True. Wish the plan was a bit cheaper for what it is. But they knock off $5 if you have autopay, and my wife wanted the cellular version anyway. So it happened to work out for me, maybe someone else will be in the same boat.
It is a good deal if you want cell. If it was still $5 I would have done it, but at the same time Sprint would have lost money on it at $5. So I understand the pricing.