Fuck cover letters. I got my current job without one and also got interviews with other but companies just applying raw with resume only.
I really hate the waiting game after interviews. More so than the interviews themselves.
Did 3 solid interviews this weekend, all went well and all said they would be in touch by telephone soon.....
Now I'm checking my phone every 5 mins.
You know.....
Aldi is always hiring around me. ;-)
And yeah I wish that feeling didn't happen. I am still worried the job I start in 12 days is fake somehow.
These companies don't care about you. People talking about burning bridges if you just started a job and a better offer comes through, ya know, I feel you need to look out for yourself first. Explain the situation to your current company, let them get agitated, then take the other job and move on. No reason to lose sleep over hurting a company's feelings. All they're going to do is call the runner up for the position and get them in there.
1 of the jobs has contacted me via text message bizarrely enough. It's just a polite message telling me that I am still in consideration and that the process is taking longer than anticipated.
Would interviewers be willing to postpone interviews, or would I just be instantly passed over? I know the common advice is to not quit until you have something on lock, but going month to month at my apartment is super expensive, and the long distance has definitely been straining my relationship. Sorry for the long story, and thank you for any advice!
Oh my gosh, yes. I took a pay hit to leave my previous job for my current one (which I would've done anyway because I really hated my previous job), but the previous job also had lackluster health care (which becomes more and more important to me as I get older), no 401K matching, and awful PTO. It can be challenging to appreciate things that don't have an immediately obvious value like pure dollars do, but I definitely encourage my friends to try to think more carefully about those other benefits.As an HR person, I totally agree with this ^^^. Companies do not care, you shouldn't feel bad, and you have got to do what is best for yourself. The only situation where it annoys me is when people do this but don't look at their complete compensation package (when leaving is about money). I've had people tell me they are leaving because they got offered $1/hr more somewhere else. I then ask if their benefits are covered, what the retirement plan is, etc. and they don't know. Is it really worth an extra $2,080/year in hourly wages if you now have to pay $2,400/year for health insurance? We've all got our own decisions to make and that is clearly what that person values, so its fine. It just isn't how I'd make that decision.
Spending my Friday doing the ol' "Wait around for HR to meet the deadline they gave you for a followup"
I know they never get back to me as early as they say they will, but it still never feels good. I spend the day frantically checking my email and fearing the worst.
I thought the interview generally went well though, and I feel like I'm well qualified for this role. It's in the same industry and doing the same type of work I do now, so unlike some of the other interviews I've had in the last year or so, I think there's likely not that many better candidates than me, at least on paper.
This would probably be a sideways move career wise; I was hoping for a stretch role and to pivot out of the contracting realm, but my commute would go from 24 miles to 4, and I'd get better benefits as well. I'd take it unless it was a large pay cut.
I mean, you are moving, are you planning on moving back?Is it gonna bite me in the ass if I don't tell this company I just had a great interview with (seeking a temp-to-perm) that I'm relocating away in 4 months? They seem especially interested in finding someone to keep long-term and I'm just looking for a summer fling.
Alright, so there is a company that has a recruiter job offer in my area. Now, I applied about a month ago, and there was a slight misunderstanding between us, in that I thought it was a recruiter job for this particular company (as in, an HR position), while he was looking for a recruiter as part of the sales team he has, since it's a staffing company.
After thinking about it, I want to try my hand at recruiting in this company. However, they are going to inevitably ask me "Well, didn't the search for an HR job work out?" What do I say to that?
Can you call the recruiter you talked with before and explain the situation? It will still look weird but probably less bad than applying again.I applied for and got an interview for a position and took a day off work for it. I got genuinely ill the night before and there was no way I was gonna make it, and my current job is keeping a close eye on my vacation/sick days so I knew I wouldn't be able to reschedule the interview for the foreseeable future, so I emailed the hiring manager and department head that I was ill and regretfully would be withdrawing my application and wished them luck with the search.
I just checked and saw that the same position has been reposted, it looks like they filled one of two openings for the same role. Obviously I screwed up not even trying to see if there was anything we could work out, but would it even be worth it to reapply? Maybe address my regret for missing the interview and excitement to see it reposted in the cover letter?
Can you call the recruiter you talked with before and explain the situation? It will still look weird but probably less bad than applying again.
So of the 3 jobs I've interviewed for one has got back and offered me a position. Great news, but if I'm being honest the position is my last choice of the 3. It's the easiest to get to in regards to travel but the work seems really processed and I think I'd get bored quickly. Theyre going to send the contract over at the end of next week,so the other two positions have time to get back to me before I sign.
How far are you in the other processes? Do you know if there are more interview rounds planned, or are you just waiting for them to make a decision? If you are comfortable being a little pushy, reach out to the contact person you have for those positions, let them know you received an offer elsewhere, but you would rather work with them. Ask them what the timeline looks like for them getting back to you.
I feel like it was mentioned a lot on this page, but you can always take that job and then bounce if one of the other jobs come along. You gotta look after yourself and do what is best for you in the long run.
goes around checking garbage bins to see if you're wasting supplies, freaks out over icons on people's desktops (was fine with it before), lost his shit yesterday because I put a box back into storage and it was half an tour of the office and some in-depth explanations of things like how they automate the sign-in desk.
What job application asks for your social?For those of you applying for jobs on indeed be aware that there are scammers out there trying to get your personal information. Scammers are becoming increasingly sophisticated now. They are setting up website that look very legitimate. After you apply for a job on indeed or monster you will receive an email with a link to their business. They will ask you to fill out an application online. They will ask the usual questions: name, address, social security number, phone number, etc. They use this info to steal your identity. Also, just by visiting these websites could put malware on your computer.
Soo, think I'm going to make a career change as I have completely failed in my current career path.
What is the best way to get into Labor representation/Labor relations/HR?
Every job I see posted requires at minimum 3 years experience.
So my supervisor let it slip on Friday that I was going to get a promotion/transfer to another department. My initial gut reaction was "Fuck that, I spent five years at this job. I don't want to be trapped here another five." So I steeled myself and applied to a bunch of jobs on Sunday. And I got a request for an interview today. And my initial gut reaction was "Fuck that. I hate interviews. What if this new job sucks worse. And the people suck."
Got a job offer for $25K more than I make now with a $6K signing bonus. I feel weird, undeserving and kind of uncomfortable about having to quit.
What is your current career? What is your work history/experience? There is no "entry level" anymore, so you are going to need to take what you've got and help the recruiter make sense of your resume/cv to see how you can fit in to that 3 years experience.
As an aside, why do you feel you failed your current career path?
Do you typically expect phone calls or emails when hearing back from a place you applied for?
Currently I am a case manager at a personal injury firm.
12 years legal experience ranging from file clerk, to legal assistant, to law clerk, to being a supervisor for a discovery department.
As to your last question, I've been trying to pass the bar exam for the last 5 years. Just failed again.
Do you typically expect phone calls or emails when hearing back from a place you applied for?
I applied for one part time and one full time two weeks ago. Haven't gotten an email and I ignore most calls from numbers I don't recognize unless they leave me a message.This is somewhat similar to me, so long story time. I went to law school and did solo practice right away while doing doc review full-time. I hated both and was always stressed out at anything to do with my practice. I just really lacked self-confidence and I found out I am just someone that likes to have someone else telling me what to do at work. My wife wanted to move back to her home town, which is small (about 10-15,000 population). I ended up getting a job doing employment investigations the big employer in the town. It was boring, but it helped me start transitioning out of typical attorney work. For getting that job, I really emphasized my research and writing skills, familiarity with best practices, and being able to communicate effectively. I really tried to downplay a lot of the main "attorney" skills, because I was worried they would treat me as overqualified just by the work history.
Before I got that job, I applied for an HR position with the local government agency 2 separate times and was never offered an interview. I also applied about 6 months after I started that job (they kept taking it down and reposting it). One day, the agency posted an analyst position that sounded like an admin assistant job, but I just wanted something different, so I applied for it. I did well in the interview, and I really liked the people I would be working with, but didn't get the job. They called me the day after and said, "hey, didn't you apply for the HR job a while back? Would you be interested in that?" I came back and did that interview and they offered me the job a week later. For the analyst job, I did the same thing I did for the investigator job and downplayed some of the skills to emphasize what they were looking for, which was someone that could create professional work product from doing research. For the HR job, I really tried to play up the attorney aspects in those initial applications. I talked to my manager about it later and they said that I didn't look great on paper as I had no traditional HR experience and they really needed a generalist to do everything, but after sitting through the analyst interview with me, I came across well and they thought I was level headed and could adapt to the position better than I could based on just the paper application. Plus they felt the investigation experience (1.5years at that point) helped give me some employment related experience they could use. I also think they were pretty desperate because they hadn't had an HR person in a few years and it was really straining them.
Now that my long story is over, I think you should focus on emphasizing the experience you have that will translate well into whatever role you apply to. Don't try to edit your current resume. Throw it out and rebuild it while trying to generalize your experiences (limit legal terms and make it seem more broadly applicable, but keep quantified information). That way you take the work out of the HR person needing to translate it from something specialized, into something normal, so they can then see how it would work for them. I would worry about you getting typecast into a legal position by an employer and passed over.
I have another post on this page talking about transitional skills and wording things, but to add to it, I'd avoid calling out you are looking for a career change (I hear that as "I want to start over and you need to train me"). I'd like to see an applicant show me, through concrete examples, experiences you have had in the work place that will be what I need the candidate to do. It's not a "career change" you are just looking for something challenging that you know you have the working experience to do well.
I know this advice is not broadly applicable and it is extremely situational. I think I had more opportunity because I moved somewhere smaller where there isn't much of an educated/specialized work force. I think it would have been extremely difficult for me to get the job I have now if I was still in the major metropolitan area. While you obviously might not want to move somewhere rural (I have no clue where you are now) you might need to expand your search if you don't get any bites because the applicant pool is competitive.
My other advice that sucks is you might want to look at taking a job you normally wouldn't take to just get you on the way out of the legal field, that way you break up the typecasting on your resume. For me, that was that investigation job. I knew I wouldn't like it, (plus I just needed a job because we moved), but it helped show my current agency me taking a job with them wasn't going to be an experiment for me in trying something new. I had demonstrated some commitment to making the change, which is some actually applicable advice. Even if you take some CLEs (my state's BOLI agency offers lots of affordable trainings that anyone can attend) it shows you are making an effort toward this something new. The employer doesn't want to bear 100% of the responsibility of helping you transition into a new field. I actually ask, "what have you done in the last 2 years to prepare yourself for this position" often as an interview question. One question won't bomb you in an interview, but if you can't answer that one, why the heck should I look at you as an applicant?
Attending trainings is also a great way to network and get some advice in your area about who is hiring, etc. That type of stuff is really important when trying to transition. Also, while you are trying to figure out what to do, look up some local people on indeed in HR and ask them to meet for a coffee to talk about getting into the field, what resources you should be exploring, etc. I know it sounds dumb and personally, I loathe it, but I got this job by getting some face time with the people I would be working with in that analyst interview to let them see how I would work within their organization.
Finally, I am sorry about the bar. That is really rough and discouraging. I am sure you are doing everything you can and it is okay to feel disappointed, but I hope you don't take it too hard on yourself. It sounds like you are working full-time and studying for a pain in the ass test while trying to handle everything else life throws at you. I know it sucks, but I hope you'll come to feel it is okay.
It kind of depends on the stage of the process for me. If you make it to the final round, you deserve a phone call either way. Otherwise, it is just what I feel like. Sometimes, I just don't want to call someone and tell them they didn't get the job because it makes me sad, so they get an email. I don't consider it pushy if someone were to ask me at the end of an interview when and how they should expect to hear back, so if you feel comfortable doing so, I recommend asking at the end of the interview. I would maybe just not have that be the only question you ask, because it makes things seem transactional.