April 2018 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes Tuesday, May 15th

KillerMan91 · May 18, 2018

PS4 almost gets its name to the top 10 when it comes to highest April sales ever.

1. DS 2009: 1042K (DSi launch......DS was monster)
2. Wii 2008: 714K
3. DS 2007: 471K
4. DS 2010: 441K
5. GBA 2003: 431K
6. DS 2008: 415K
7. Wii 2007: 360K
8. PSP 2005: 351K (launch was in march)
9. Wii 2009: 340K
10. PS2 2005: 332K
11. PS4 2018: 326K

DS/Wii sales were something else......

v_iHuGi · May 18, 2018

KillerMan91 said:
PS4 almost gets its name to the top 10 when it comes to highest April sales ever.

1. DS 2009: 1042K (DSi launch......DS was monster)
2. Wii 2008: 714K
3. DS 2007: 471K
4. DS 2010: 441K
5. GBA 2003: 431K
6. DS 2008: 415K
7. Wii 2007: 360K
8. PSP 2005: 351K (launch was in march)
9. Wii 2009: 340K
10. PS2 2005: 332K
11. PS4 2018: 326K

DS/Wii sales were something else......

Jesus christ Nintendo is absolutely insane!

Switch might break into this list one price drops and Pokémon hits.

mejin · May 18, 2018

Like everyone I knew it PS4 would easily be top this month but I didn't expect it to trounce competition like that. Really good and amazing. Messed up my numbers though.

But I'm really happy for GoW effect. Congratz once again SM and Cory. Well deserved all the sucess!

Bitch Pudding · May 18, 2018

KillerMan91 said:
PS4 almost gets its name to the top 10 when it comes to highest April sales ever.

1. DS 2009: 1042K (DSi launch......DS was monster)
2. Wii 2008: 714K
3. DS 2007: 471K
4. DS 2010: 441K
5. GBA 2003: 431K
6. DS 2008: 415K
7. Wii 2007: 360K
8. PSP 2005: 351K (launch was in march)
9. Wii 2009: 340K
10. PS2 2005: 332K
11. PS4 2018: 326K

DS/Wii sales were something else......

Switch is doing great but it's not the second coming of the Wii.

v_iHuGi · May 18, 2018

Bitch Pudding said:
Switch is doing great but it's not the second coming of the Wii.

Yet.

Adventureracing · May 18, 2018

KillerMan91 said:
PS4 almost gets its name to the top 10 when it comes to highest April sales ever.

1. DS 2009: 1042K (DSi launch......DS was monster)
2. Wii 2008: 714K
3. DS 2007: 471K
4. DS 2010: 441K
5. GBA 2003: 431K
6. DS 2008: 415K
7. Wii 2007: 360K
8. PSP 2005: 351K (launch was in march)
9. Wii 2009: 340K
10. PS2 2005: 332K
11. PS4 2018: 326K

DS/Wii sales were something else......

A million in god damn April. I mean what can you really say? That's just insanity. I miss those days of seeing insanely high numbers like that.

slavesnyder · May 18, 2018

god of war release and playstation sales uptick both in april are pure coincidence.

Deleted member 4976 · May 18, 2018

OrbitalBeard said:
I just hope Nintendo can have a more well-rounded release schedule throughout 2019.

I think it'll certainly be more well rounded. Some of the rumors already seem to hint at that, e.g. Star Fox might be an early 2019 title.

Zetran · May 18, 2018

Welfare said:
So as I pointed out in my Wall O' Numbers, Xbox One weekly average sales dropped by a large amount in April if there was no deal (at least a good one) and 2018 continues that. Similar drop to 2017. Can see why they price cut the system in May, which is what they kind of did last year but only with the 1TB bundles to $299.

Switch had a comparable April to PS4 and XB1 2015, which had Mortal Kombat X and trade in deals.

Why don't MS just drop the price permanently? I mean the market and consumer already dictates X1 price point.

Astandahl · May 18, 2018

Bitch Pudding said:
Switch is doing great but it's not the second coming of the Wii.

That was clear since September 2017.

Welfare · May 18, 2018

Zetran said:
Why don't MS just drop the price permanently? I mean the market and consumer already dictates X1 price point.

Probably will at or around E3. I can't see them going a few more months with just temporary price cuts.

donny2112 · May 18, 2018

Fdkn said:
Missing March messed my prospects for the year tho

Annual results are top 10 of 12 months per individual, so you can miss up to 2 months for the year and still be okay.

Welfare said:
Using the YOY comparison I get

PS4: 326K
NSW: 171K
XB1: 132K
3DS: 66K

Cool! So rounding to nearest 5K, since these are % changes off of estimates, can go with the below for predictions. (^_^)

PS4 - 325k
NSW - 170k
XB1 - 130K

NPD Prediction Results - April 2018

Units

1. Fdkn - 45,000
1. Limabean01 - 45,000
3. Andromeda - 80,000
4. KrigareN- - 85,000
5. useyourloaf - 90,000
6. John Wick - 95,000
7. Majiebeast - 97,000
8. Prototype Viktor - 99,000
9. kowalski - 100,000
10. Jokegeta - 103,000
10. cakely - 103,000
12. Gulfwarvet - 104,000
13. Gryflet - 105,000
13. Wandu - 105,000
13. jroc74 - 105,000
13. rahzel - 105,000
17. Darth Smurf X - 110,000
17. Martl - 110,000
17. Stanng243 - 110,000
17. mejin - 110,000
21. KillerMan91 - 115,000
21. Nocturnal - 115,000
23. Primethius - 120,000
23. ResetEraIsTheBestEra - 120,000
23. Ryng Manuel Tolu - 120,000
26. RexNovis - 121,000
27. Aquamarine - 125,000
27. DanR93 - 125,000
27. Expy - 125,000
27. Keikaku - 125,000
27. Welfare - 125,000
27. allan-bh - 125,000
33. freeradical - 126,000
34. Jildo Fisterfilly - 130,000
34. slavesnyder - 130,000
36. CosmicBolt - 133,000
37. Bundy - 135,000
37. Corporate Clown - 135,000
37. DrakenAstro - 135,000
37. Kaveri - 135,000
37. MrTired - 135,000
37. Phantom Thief - 135,000
37. Zedark - 135,000
37. lucas7j - 135,000
37. pitseleh - 135,000
46. Myriotes - 137,000
47. anexanhume - 139,000
48. Astandahl - 140,000
48. HighJump - 140,000
48. v_iHuGi - 140,000
51. Zetran - 143,000
52. Bitch Pudding - 145,000
52. chobel - 145,000
54. jayu26 - 146,000
55. Elandyll - 155,000
55. Heartskips - 155,000
55. John Bender - 155,000
55. chroeser - 155,000
55. gcwy - 155,000
55. gordofredito - 155,000
61. donny2112 - 157,000
62. Hammer24 - 162,000
63. Peek-a-boo! - 163,000
64. Grads - 165,000
64. JJJ117 - 165,000
64. Omnislayer - 165,000
67. Sangetsu-II - 170,000
67. ScopehJ - 170,000
69. Kilgore - 173,000
69. N.47H.4N - 173,000
71. Pablo Mesa - 180,000
72. Andri - 184,000
73. Kyser73 - 185,000
73. gueras - 185,000
73. score01 - 185,000
76. Astrogamer - 190,000
76. James - 190,000
78. Deunan - 195,000
78. NoMoreTrolls - 195,000
80. ConfusedGamer - 197,000
80. TurnoftheCentury - 197,000
82. Kill3r7 - 200,000
83. MasterChumly - 205,000
84. Noobie - 208,000
85. spekkeh - 215,000
86. Arkaign - 244,000
87. Zok310 - 245,000
88. Pachter - 255,000
88. mindsale - 255,000
90. Cladyclad - 280,000
91. patapon - 295,000
92. Harris Katz - 310,000
93. UmbriaPauly - 315,000
94. JSG87 - 330,000
95. Aokiji - 365,000
96. SinCItyAssassin - 440,000

Points

Code:

     April 2018                      Overall 2018 Top (3/4)
01.  Limabean01             118.75   freeradical              311.37
02.  Fdkn                   117.10   Limabean01               310.45
03.  Andromeda              106.93   Elandyll                 307.87
04.  useyourloaf            102.22   allan-bh                 306.75
05.  Majiebeast              99.14   Andromeda                304.22
06.  John Wick               98.17   CosmicBolt               302.09
07.  Nocturnal               96.03   mejin                    301.58
08.  Gryflet                 95.22   ResetEraIsTheBestEra     301.45
09.  Jokegeta                95.15   kowalski                 301.34
10.  ResetEraIsTheBestEra    94.15   Welfare                  300.62
11.  freeradical             93.98   chroeser                 299.84
12.  KillerMan91             93.59   jroc74                   297.41
13.  RexNovis                93.37   useyourloaf              295.62
14.  Ryng Manuel Tolu        93.28   RexNovis                 292.42
15.  Darth Smurf X           92.70   Martl                    292.13
16.  rahzel                  92.44   Astandahl                290.82
17.  mejin                   92.23   KillerMan91              290.70
18.  jroc74                  92.14   Hammer24                 290.56
19.  cakely                  92.07   Ryng Manuel Tolu         288.59
20.  Prototype Viktor        92.01   Darth Smurf X            287.76
21.  Corporate Clown         91.84   Fdkn                     287.22
22.  Aquamarine              91.60   TurnoftheCentury         286.33
23.  Gulfwarvet              91.35   MrTired                  286.32
24.  Wandu                   90.15   pitseleh                 285.83
25.  KrigareN-               90.12   chobel                   285.72
26.  Primethius              89.97   Kaveri                   285.54
27.  Welfare                 89.92   Primethius               284.79
28.  allan-bh                89.46   cakely                   284.65
29.  pitseleh                89.03   Nocturnal                283.68
30.  Stanng243               88.82   Majiebeast               283.06
31.  Myriotes                88.61   Stanng243                281.49
32.  Jildo Fisterfilly       88.17   Gryflet                  281.08
33.  DanR93                  87.75   DanR93                   281.07
34.  CosmicBolt              87.29   Corporate Clown          280.86
35.  Keikaku                 87.28   Wandu                    280.61
36.  Martl                   87.15   donny2112                280.13
37.  HighJump                86.85   Jildo Fisterfilly        279.57
38.  Zedark                  86.59   jayu26                   279.05
39.  anexanhume              85.87   uptownsoul               278.82
40.  lucas7j                 85.66   slavesnyder              277.34
41.  slavesnyder             85.23   Expy                     276.79
42.  Astandahl               85.14   wilmbreak                276.02
43.  jayu26                  85.08   Raylan                   275.21
44.  Kaveri                  84.89   Astrogamer               274.98
45.  donny2112               84.15   gueras                   274.38
46.  Zetran                  84.09   Sangetsu-II              273.89
47.  gordofredito            84.07   ConfusedGamer            273.25
48.  kowalski                83.89   Kill3r7                  273.23
49.  MrTired                 83.65   Rymuth                   273.15
50.  Elandyll                83.60   lucas7j                  272.46

Congratulations, Limabean01 and Fdkn by Units and Limabean01 by Points! :D

Majiebeast · May 18, 2018

7. Majiebeast - 97,000

Guess i did way better then i thought.

slavesnyder · May 18, 2018

Zetran said:
Why don't MS just drop the price permanently? I mean the market and consumer already dictates X1 price point.

profit sucks anyway. give the people what they want and free yourself from the chains of capitalism.

Deleted member 249 · May 18, 2018

Holy shit, congratulations PS4! God of War pulling in the work! Well deserved too :)

Does anyone know what the software charts look like?

MrTired · May 18, 2018

Phantom Thief said:
Holy shit, congratulations PS4! God of War pulling in the work! Well deserved too :)

Does anyone know what the software charts look like?

Not out till next week

Deleted member 249 · May 18, 2018

MrTired said:
Not out till next week

I know, I was hoping for similar leaks for it too ;P

MasterChumly · May 18, 2018

Wonder what Nintendo is going to do to hit 20 million. At this pace they aren't going to.

MrTired · May 18, 2018

Phantom Thief said:
I know, I was hoping for similar leaks for it too ;P

But it wouldn't include digital therefore not be representative.

Deleted member 249 · May 18, 2018

MrTired said:
But it wouldn't include digital therefore not be representative.

Ahhh. Fair

Darth Smurf X · May 18, 2018

I did better this month that I thought I would. And how am I still in the Top 20 overall when I missed March entirely?

gundamkyoukai · May 18, 2018

Very good numbers for PS4 and show why Sony won't do a price cut .
Hope the GOW numbers get leak some how lol.

Deleted member 32018 · May 18, 2018

Basically expected for PS4 but still impressive anyway.

slavesnyder · May 18, 2018

MasterChumly said:
Wonder what Nintendo is going to do to hit 20 million. At this pace they aren't going to.

and from that moment on, every month for nintendo was april...

VX1 · May 18, 2018

Dinjooh said:
ArsTechnica would have a field day extrapolating those numbers over several years.

LOL,don't give them ideas :)

patapon · May 18, 2018

Tried to create a thread over leaked NPD numbers, messed it up pretty bad and got the thread locked LOL

xD

Majiebeast · May 18, 2018

patapon said:
Tried to create a thread over leaked NPD numbers, messed it up pretty bad and got the thread locked LOL

xD

There is a reason we keep those numbers here.

patapon · May 18, 2018

Majiebeast said:
There is a reason we keep those numbers here.

Learned my lesson :p

Wandu · May 18, 2018

Omnislayer said:
I thought i was being too optimistic with my PS4 prediction. Turns out I was being too conservative with PS4 and way too optimistic with Switch and Xbone.

Same here and I thought I was being generous on my XB1 numbers.

Filth_Flannigan · May 18, 2018

Astandahl said:
PS4 over 300k... I think the last one able to do that in April was the Wii right?

I am not sure, but what I am sure of is that April shows us that good exclusive games, even single player only affairs, can not only move great sales numbers, but also consoles. We see it happen when big games release, and console sales get a bump, but there are still some people that peddle this backroom narrative that exclusive games dont move consoles.

Looks like GOW helped moved a lot of consoles as a single player only console exclusive.

Sonicfan059 · May 18, 2018

Welfare said:
Using the YOY comparison I get

PS4: 326K
NSW: 171K
XB1: 132K
3DS: 66K

Even being up YOY Xbox numbers are pretty bad considering this is likely 60% of their WW numbers or more. Explains their May sale and not surprising really. They're lucky to have the X, otherwise they'd probably be down and maybe sub 100k.

MrTired · May 18, 2018

steviejd1 said:
Basically expected for PS4 but still impressive anyway.

Ah. Doing numbers that result in the best April in nearly ten years is expected?

Elandyll · May 18, 2018

Majiebeast said:
7. Majiebeast - 97,000

Guess i did way better then i thought.

Everyone outside of the top 8 is off by at least 100.000.

PS4 is the destroyer of Dreams ;)

Deleted member 32018 · May 18, 2018

MrTired said:
Ah. Doing numbers that result in the best April in nearly ten years is expected?

Well yes because we know how fantastically GoW has sold...Jeez don't get so defensive.

Demacabre · May 18, 2018

Lelouch0612 said:
So something like that :

PS4 : 326k
Switch : 171k
X1 : 134k
3DS : 70k

So PS4 sold more than their competition combined?!

Single Player Games is DAD folks! So dad!

OfficerRaichu15 · May 18, 2018

Amazing for PS4
Switch is in line with the 2nd April for the XBO and PS4 so not bad.

Labo and DK,
Kinda wonder how they did.

Ryng™ · May 18, 2018

PS4 over 300K? o_o

...............Welp. Gotta eat crow lmao

Phendrift · May 18, 2018

Magicpork said:
Hardware sales in the US was largely flat YoY in April, and software sales was down approximately 10%, but bear in mind that sales in April 2017 was boosted by the Switch. The PS4 got off a significantly stronger start compared to other consoles thanks to Sony's God of War. All eyes are now on the Switch's software lineup from 2Q.

The relative sales volumes of game hardware was:

YoY

On the software side (digital not included):

Wow GoW put in work!

And Holy shit, both TF AND Labo in the top 4 for April?

How is that even possible when TF came in May?

OfficerRaichu15 · May 18, 2018

Phendrift said:
Wow GoW put in work!

And Holy shit, both TF AND Labo in the top 4 for April?

How is that even possible when TF came in May?

It was tracked for only two days.
If I remember leaks suggested DK TF on Wii U did 190k in two weeks.

Kind curious if this did more(maybe 250k+?)

Also Labo at 3 is great. I'm sure FCV had a great second month.

MrTired · May 18, 2018

Phendrift said:
Wow GoW put in work!

And Holy shit, both TF AND Labo in the top 4 for April?

How is that even possible when TF came in May?

OfficerRaichu15 said:
It was tracked for only two days.
If I remember leaks suggested DK TF on Wii U did 190k in two weeks.

Kind curious if this did more(maybe 250k+?)

No digital sales guys.
Tracking went til May 5.

OfficerRaichu15 · May 18, 2018

MrTired said:
No digital sales guys.

Oh darn forgot.
Yeah they will likely go down but at least it's guranteed they are top 10 right?

v_iHuGi · May 18, 2018

Sonicfan059 said:
Even being up YOY Xbox numbers are pretty bad considering this is likely 60% of their WW numbers or more. Explains their May sale and not surprising really. They're lucky to have the X, otherwise they'd probably be down and maybe sub 100k.

60? Nah, more.

Ryng™ · May 18, 2018

Overall i'm TOP 15 for the month so still not bad i guess. Got Switch/XB1 close, was just way too conservate with PS4 lul

Sonicfan059 said:
Even being up YOY Xbox numbers are pretty bad considering this is likely 60% of their WW numbers or more. Explains their May sale and not surprising really. They're lucky to have the X, otherwise they'd probably be down and maybe sub 100k.

Have to agree with this. Recently with MS saying XB1 was up YOY by just 15% WW, USA sales must be closer to 70% or more than the old 60% for the first 3 months of the year.

132.000 in a market that basically cover more or less 2/3 of all sales is just bad. XB1X boost is slowing down and if that'sthe trend 2018 will just being another drop in USA, and way worse worldwide.

MrTired · May 18, 2018

Sonicfan059 said:
Even being up YOY Xbox numbers are pretty bad considering this is likely 60% of their WW numbers or more. Explains their May sale and not surprising really. They're lucky to have the X, otherwise they'd probably be down and maybe sub 100k.

v_iHuGi said:
60? Nah, more.

Soony Xbone Uhh said:
At the beginning of the new generation it was 60% US 40% RotW.
Since then Xbox One launched in additional markets. But legs of the console seem to be worse in some regions.

Xbox 360 was pretty much 50:50
65% is the upper end of the spectrum.

Xbox One is around 21 million in the US as of March 2018
65% would put the WW total at only 32 million

60% +/- 3 points is my best guess.

OfficerRaichu15 said:
Oh darn forgot.
Yeah they will likely go down but at least it's guranteed they are top 10 right?

Most likely.

Mory Dunz · May 18, 2018

Phendrift said:
Wow GoW put in work!

And Holy shit, both TF AND Labo in the top 4 for April?

How is that even possible when TF came in May?

Top 4 with only retail.
But yea interested in labo

Magicpork · May 18, 2018

MasterChumly said:
Wonder what Nintendo is going to do to hit 20 million. At this pace they aren't going to.

Still optimistic about the Switch hitting its target, this is only Nintendo's first month in the new FY and the number is not as bad as it may have looked.. personally I even think 20m is more on the conservative side.

OfficerRaichu15 · May 18, 2018

MasterChumly said:
Wonder what Nintendo is going to do to hit 20 million. At this pace they aren't going to.

Pokémon, Fire Emblem, and Smash Bros are still coming lol.
June is where the releases start increasing.

Phendrift · May 18, 2018

OfficerRaichu15 said:
It was tracked for only two days.
If I remember leaks suggested DK TF on Wii U did 190k in two weeks.

Kind curious if this did more(maybe 250k+?)

Also Labo at 3 is great. I'm sure FCV had a great second month.

MrTired said:
No digital sales guys.
Tracking went til May 5.

Mory Dunz said:
Top 4 with only retail.
But yea interested in labo

Oh wow, Tropical Freeze must be doing super fucking well then!

v_iHuGi · May 18, 2018

Magicpork said:
Still optimistic about the Switch hitting its target, this is only Nintendo's first month in the new FY and the number is not as bad as it may have looked.. personally I even think 20m is more on the conservative side.

Pokémon + Huge Japan year will help to reach 20M.

patapon · May 18, 2018

Magicpork said:
Still optimistic about the Switch hitting its target, this is only Nintendo's first month in the new FY and the number is not as bad as it may have looked.. personally I even think 20m is more on the conservative side.

Hey Magic, just wanted to say thanks for the numbers.

:D

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