While Ace Attorney didn't create a gateway effect for me, 999 sure did, leading me into Steins;Gate and Fata Morgana, and I fully intend on continuing down the rabbit hole.Anecdotally, the gateway effect that makes narrative sense doesn't actually happen - people who get exposed to DDLC or Hatoful or Ace Attorney don't tend to continue further down the rabbit hole.
That comparison would be more apt if the gaming press was largely oblivious to existence of Baldur's Gate, while at the same time presenting Dopey Joke RPG as the face of the genre.
Does Doki Doki Literature Club count? Only popular one that came to mind due to how meta it got.This.
Even in this forum people have no idea that awesome VN's exist. Today the term is being used like "walking simulator".
Sure, if you're unable to enjoy or appreciate something until it has been ordained by the Almighty Gaming Press.That comparison would be more apt if the gaming press was largely oblivious to existence of Baldur's Gate, while at the same time presenting Dopey Joke RPG as the face of the genre.
Is it only bad because it's by KFC?
Because I thought that Hatoful Boyfriend was generally considered to be one of the high points of the genre (Otome/Romance Sim, not VN in general), despite being a parody of it.
And Dream Daddy is on the good list too?
What about that weird fan made Romance Sim with the Starcraft players? Or the one where you date tanks?
As someone who reads predominantely Otome when it comes to VN, I laughed hard when it came to the part about "showing respect" for the genre.
LMAO.
This is one if the pulpiest, trashiest, stupidest genres, AND THAT'S WHY I LOVE IT.
Remember that time you could date a cat in UtaPri?
Or that time you time travelled to the Taisho era to date your own brother in The Charming Empire (or something like that, that plot was whack)? What about that game where you date Yokai that are also in a rockband?
Romance Sims are amazing an fun, and this KFC game seems in the same vein.
We can talk about whether it's good once it's out, but wtf at assuming that this is misrepresenting the genre.
Don't worry guys, I'm sure there's an abusive asshole in there that secretly loves you because you're his step-sister and wants to drink your blood to get closer to his mother again. Because you gotta be respectful to the genre!
You say there are "a lot of tweets" about this...but it just seems like you made a thread about 3 angry "im a serious gamer and this my serious gamer genre!!!!!" tweets, OP.
Does Doki Doki Literature Club count? Only popular one that came to mind due to how meta it got.
Japanese VNs is genre with relatively high licensing and localization cost compared to their current audience. The lack of coverage and awereness is reducing the chances some of the more prestigious ones getting official English releases, so it does hurt the genre and its fans that what little attention it gets is typically in the vein of "LOOK AT THIS WACKY GAME WHERE YOU CAN DATE DINOSAURS!!!"Sure, if you're unable to enjoy or appreciate something until it has been ordained by the Almighty Gaming Press.
You say there are "a lot of tweets" about this...but it just seems like you made a thread about 3 angry "im a serious gamer and this my serious gamer genre!!!!!" tweets, OP.
Does Pride and Prejudice and Zombies hurt Pride and Prejudice?
Fuckin' open and shut
That account's avatar hurts it more than anything they are talking about
anyway none of what i'm saying here is outlandish. i think literally everyone here has a genre or hobby or whatever they're intimately familiar with that they would be annoyed to see generalizations of. "all shooters are for psychopaths" "rap is just guys talking about money and bitches" "sports fans are all meathead jocks" etc etc. none of these things are true and you'd rightfully find any serious opinions or attempts at humor leaning on them to be lame and tiresome, because they are. "visual novels are all just wacky loser dating sims!" is the exact same boring bullshit
this post is more appropriate than you realize because the "classic literature + ZOMBIES woooOoAAaAaAh!!" trend was just as uncreative and boring as someone going "have you heard about these games where you can freaking date people??"
does it hurt anything? no. is it funny or insightful? also no
The avatar is the best illustration of how absurd the premise of this thread is.I changed the top tweet to another popular one on the matter. I'd like a actual conversation on the topic rather than a thread about anime avatars.
I changed the top tweet to another popular one on the matter. I'd like a actual conversation on the topic rather than a thread about anime avatars.
I mean christ, browsing the Steam visual novel tag just absolutely blasts you in the face with a bunch of sexualized crap pandering to the lowest common denominator. "fan service" and lolis as far as the eye can see. A couple of jokey Western VNs don't even rate in comparison. The entire genre is tainted and you have to wade through an absolute river of shit to find the actual "good" ones, and even those are usually filled with embarrassing stuff you kind of have to ignore.
So no. Colonel Sander Is My Waifu or whatever is cynical and an obvious attempt by a Brand to be hip and cool, but it's not ruining the nonexistent sanctity of the VN genre.
The avatar is the best illustration of how absurd the premise of this thread is.
"Is this cynical corporate cash-in hurting the sanctity of the genre dominated by sexualized children?"
No it's not, the genre is doing that just fine by itself.
I don't think changing the tweet changes anybody's answer
If you're going to limit the discussion about what people think of when they think of visual novels, all you're going to get is a bunch of single word "no" answers ITT.