I am very curious as to how the make-up of this site is. It's a simple question: are you a capitalist or not? To make things clearer, social democracy that is viewed as the end rather than a means to socialism will be counted as capitalist.
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Are you a capitalist?
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I own and operate a small painting company, so yes, but I live in Canada with "free" health care, so no.
I like aspects of both Capitalist and Socialist systems but I think Capitalism serves as the better basis of the model.
Given your explanation, I am a capitalist... I do believe in crown corporations and gov should heavily regulate industries and monopoly is the absolute form of capitalism but ultimately, people should have incentive to work, hence communism will never be successful as there's no reward for good work.
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Considering that this is a video game enthusiast forum, I imagine most posters are on some level capitalist. Almost none of them would exist without a profit motive. The only one I love that would still exist is Cave Story.
Personally, I'm pro capitalism. It isn't perfect, but it does a better job at isolating the effects of human folly, whereas more centralized economies are doomed to economic crashes over time that affect everyone because we will never elect the best people consistently.
Personally, I'm pro capitalism. It isn't perfect, but it does a better job at isolating the effects of human folly, whereas more centralized economies are doomed to economic crashes over time that affect everyone because we will never elect the best people consistently.
Yes.
I believe that liberal capitalist democratic societies generally provide the best groundwork for health, happiness, and expression.
I believe that liberal capitalist democratic societies generally provide the best groundwork for health, happiness, and expression.
It is a reasonable descriptive model for human interactions and is an working economic philosophy if you only care about increasing total wealth without giving a second thought to wealth distribution. I am not convinced that any other system would necessarily be able to survive long enought to figure out all its kinks and adapt. Modern capitalism is broken though, so might as well try something new.
-i work in finance
-have large loans on my home and cars
-all of my life savings are in stocks of fortune 500 companies
-use large bank supplied credit cards for everything i buy
-looking to buy real estate in nyc so i can rent it out cause the rental market is crazy there
no i am not
-have large loans on my home and cars
-all of my life savings are in stocks of fortune 500 companies
-use large bank supplied credit cards for everything i buy
-looking to buy real estate in nyc so i can rent it out cause the rental market is crazy there
no i am not
So, I guess if you live in a Capitalist (allowing of free enterprise, albeit with the government trying to compete every step of the way) country you are a Capitalist by definition. Not arguing with you btw. As such this is not an easy question to answer.
Under the current world order of resource scarcity? Yeah.
That doesn't mean I rule out socialism in a future of AI and automation, just that right now I think capitalism with a strong social safety net and socialized public services are the best way to go right now.
That doesn't mean I rule out socialism in a future of AI and automation, just that right now I think capitalism with a strong social safety net and socialized public services are the best way to go right now.
I guess . But it's just a how the world works right now. It's not like I chose to have to do certain things to live the life I want. It's just what we gotta do.
I wouldn't be upset if AI overlords somehow did away with capitalism as long as most people could live comfortably doing whatever they feel like doing.
I wouldn't be upset if AI overlords somehow did away with capitalism as long as most people could live comfortably doing whatever they feel like doing.
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Well, I assumed you meant that you supported Canada's system. However, I guess my question was whether one supports capitalism or not. Other ways to view it are defining the capitalists as people who gain capital primarily through the labour of others, or I guess your definition is anyone who lives within a capitalist economy?
In theory I'm a supporter of Marxist style communism, but there is zero chance we can ever get there in our lifetime and little chance anything I do will help bring about communism. So in practice I'm mostly a supporter of social democracy with as robust a safety net and welfare state as possible. It isn't worth supporting something with no chance of happening
No you don't have to be a capitalist to participate in a capitalist society.
But being a small business owner is a pretty strong indication of being a capitalist. Unless you are operating a co-op or something and share profits equally with everyone who works with you.
Just because someone lives under a system and participates in it doesn't mean they agree with it or don't want something else.
Any sort of economic system is vulnerable to every fallibility of human nature, particularly corruption.
However corruption and greed causes socialism to collapse completely into failure, while greed is literally built into capitalism and so is more resistant to corruption, especially since in a socialist political system the people who have the power to regulate corruption are the same people who benefit from the corruption, while in a capitalist system they are at least one step away from control of the economy.
However corruption and greed causes socialism to collapse completely into failure, while greed is literally built into capitalism and so is more resistant to corruption, especially since in a socialist political system the people who have the power to regulate corruption are the same people who benefit from the corruption, while in a capitalist system they are at least one step away from control of the economy.
Yes. "Do you believe socialism is better than capitalism or vice versa?", is a FUNDAMENTALLY different question from, "Are you a Capitalist?".
I voted no because I reject the notion that social democracy is more capitalist than not. It would be like saying any capitalist society that offers any sort of social welfare is no longer capitalist.
Hm, when I was younger I was against capitalism. As I grew older I accepted capitalism as some sort of natural force...like death.
Fight me, but I strongly believe that capitalism can only be "tamed" by autocratic forces. The other contender "common sense" working for several billion people in practice is as realistic as Santa Claus' existence.
Fight me, but I strongly believe that capitalism can only be "tamed" by autocratic forces. The other contender "common sense" working for several billion people in practice is as realistic as Santa Claus' existence.
