Are you willing to boycott ActiBlizzard after the recent actions taken against those who support Hong Kong?

[Gotdatmoney]

This is my opinion. Also, read this.

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I don't care. It's a ridiculous statement entirely unworthy of respect and I wont entertain it as being valid.

And since I'm not disrespecting you, I humbly ask that you do not disrespect me when we are discussing. =)

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If you are going to bait reactions with none sense like that I'm not going to pretend its worthy of respect. Saying you would proudly support the works of a dude who committed mass genocide because you can separate the "artist" (barf) from the art is a joke. As if this artist wouldn't use the profits to commit more genocide. Disgusting.

 

[Col.Asher]

It would be easy for me, I had a steady declining interest in blizzard since starcraft 2. I'll probably still load up diablo 2 at some point, but I bought that ages ago.

 

[Phalk]

art before artist is a stupid fucking idea too

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I disagree.

 

[JayCB64]

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People need to focus on the shit they've actually done wrong rather than just flinging more shit to hope it sticks.

 

[TSM]

Sometimes, and this might blow your mind, people do things because of principles, because they feel it's the right thing to do, and not simply because of calculation of "if I do this, will it change anything?" or "If I do this, will I get anything?"

Don't you ever in your life ever do something simply because it's the right thing to do, and not because you will get anything out of it?

Why "because it's the right to do" is never enough of a reason anymore?

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The point is that they aren't actually doing anything of consequence. Companies being on an honor system that they are acting with principles while doing business in China isn't a solution. As always what other companies will learn is to preempt any future problems so they don't end up like Blizzard or the NBA, and not that they shouldn't be doing business with a authoritarian government in the first place. Going after any company that got caught with their pants down while the rest of the companies doing business with China carry on as usual isn't going to improve anything. We need to the US government to give a shit and lay down sanctions that US companies are forced to adhere to.

Co-opt blizzard characters into propaganda against China. It worked for winnie the pooh, it worked the ok-hand sign, they're already doing it with Mei. There's your alternative, now quit complaining and actually take a stance.

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I haven't bought a Blizzard game in 7 years, and had no plans to buy any in the future. Obviously I was way ahead of the curve on this boycott. Look at me somehow making a difference. Slactivism at it's finest.

Also I've called for sanctions against China multiple times in my posts on this topic which is a hell of a lot stronger stance than asking people to stop buying a company's video games.

 

[Phalk]

If you are going to bait reactions with none sense like that I'm not going to pretend its worthy of respect. Saying you would proudly support the works of a dude who committed mass genocide because you can separate the "artist" (barf) from the art is a joke. As if this artist would use the profits to commit more genocide. Disgusting.

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It's my money and my opinion and I have every right to have it.
You can have yours and we are fine.
The rest of your response is mind reading.

Have fun, mate.

 

[Ocean Bones]

Nope. If the game is good I'll buy it. Even if it's made by Adolf Hitler himself.

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Nazi sympathizer.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

It's my money and my opinion and I have every right to have it.
You can have yours and we are fine.
The rest of your response is mind reading.

Have fun, mate.

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No one is censoring your opinion. It's being criticized because you're not immune to being called out just because you say "that's my opinion"

Lol dude, no one is falling for this.

 

[Gestault]

Nope. If the game is good I'll buy it. Even if it's made by Adolf Hitler himself.

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This is my opinion. Also, read this.
And since I'm not disrespecting you, I humbly ask that you do not disrespect me when we are discussing. =)

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Good people have every reason to be disgusted by you, personally. Particularly in the time and place you're "sharing" this boot-licking defense of truly vile things like outright human rights violations. And in your own example, genocide.

 

[Sai]

Nope. If the game is good I'll buy it. Even if it's made by Adolf Hitler himself.

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gamers are so pathetic lmfao

 

[Zacmortar]

It's my money and my opinion and I have every right to have it.
You can have yours and we are fine.
The rest of your response is mind reading.

Have fun, mate.

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People like you are why the world is in the state its in

 

[JayCB64]

Please pirate Hitlers game if you need to play it that's all we ask

 

[Zacmortar]

Please pirate Hitlers game if you need to play it that's all we ask

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the character creator in mein kampf is so robust, I just wish every character didn't hate you for not being the default :/

 

[Phalk]

Good people have every reason to be disgusted by you, personally. Particularly in the time and place you're "sharing" this boot-licking defense of truly vile things like outright human rights violations. And in your own example, genocide.

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I promise I won't bite any more than this, but you're making dangerous assumptions here.
First, the original message was a figure of speech and I'm sure you know it, but hey, it's better to turn this into a mindless flame right?
Secondly, I'm curious about what makes you think you're entitled to define who are good and bad people.

Anyway, I'm out of this. Have fun with your bickering and I hope you can change the world by boycotting things.

 

[Everlasting_Cyclone]

110% Ready to boycott. Was gonna get Overwatch Switch but I guess I'm sticking to Paladins.

 

[Ghostshark]

Nope. If the game is good I'll buy it. Even if it's made by Adolf Hitler himself.

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You are a disgusting human being.

 

[Sai]

imagine being a grown ass adult in the world we live in and still having, like, zero principles.

 

[TheSkullPrince]

I'm not going to lie, it was kinda hard cancelling my pre-order for CoD MW since I've been looking so much forward to it, but this issue is bigger than that and I'm glad that I did.

 

[Grimminski]

I picked yes because there is literally nothing for me to boycott.

 

[Phalk]

You are a disgusting human being.

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And you are a beautiful one.
I would like it better if you didn't think this of me, but I wish you the best regardless!

 

[R0987]

Last acti-blizz game I bought was cod wwii two years ago. Was gonna buy MW but after this whole China thing and my gut feeling that the game will turn into a mtx infested nightmare so fuck em.

 

[JayCB64]

I picked yes because there is literally nothing for me to boycott.

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Ya know, I've been reading back through a bit and a fairly considerable chunk of the yes answers I've seen have been people who do not own, or had no intention to own, any Blizzard games..so seeing posts like this going all the way back to the start I do wonder how representational the poll really is.

 

[Grimminski]

Ya know, I've been reading back through a bit and a fairly considerable chunk of the yes answers I've seen have been people who do not own, or had no intention to own, any Blizzard games..so seeing posts like this going all the way back to ye start I do wonder how representational the poll really is.

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Probably fairly accurate.

I've played Overwatch and Diablo 3, and I came away not wanting to buy them because the competitors were better.

 

[Boiled Goose]

Nope. If Sekiro 2 drops, I'm buying it. We have our own problems in America that we have to deal with first. This is a fucked up country toward certain ethnicities.

Oof...I'm not going this far.

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If Activision was banning players for criticizing white supremacy in America at the request of Trump, then your stance would make some sense.

 

[Boiled Goose]

It's my money and my opinion and I have every right to have it.
You can have yours and we are fine.
The rest of your response is mind reading.

Have fun, mate.

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Having the right to an opinion doesn't mean it can't get criticized. No. We are not fine.

 

[texhnolyze]

Ya know, I've been reading back through a bit and a fairly considerable chunk of the yes answers I've seen have been people who do not own, or had no intention to own, any Blizzard games..so seeing posts like this going all the way back to the start I do wonder how representational the poll really is.

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A large chunk of posters also don't aware that Activision published games have a part in this boycott. That means COD, Crash/Spyro remasters, Sekiro, etc.

People are thinking about Blizzard games.

 

[Phalk]

Ya know, I've been reading back through a bit and a fairly considerable chunk of the yes answers I've seen have been people who do not own, or had no intention to own, any Blizzard games..so seeing posts like this going all the way back to the start I do wonder how representational the poll really is.

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I don't think the poll would be very accurate even if everyone who voted played an Activision Blizzard game, since most people who post on Era are on the gaming activism side of the internet fence and take those things very seriously as we can see in the discussion.

 

[Phalk]

Having the right to an opinion doesn't mean it can't get criticized. No. We are not fine.

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You can criticize, no problem, I just ask that you keep it polite. =)

 

[JayCB64]

A large chunk of posters also don't aware that Activision published games have a part in this boycott. That means COD, Crash/Spyro remasters, Sekiro, etc.

People are thinking about Blizzard games.

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Excellent point, theres been a hefty chunk of "Oh fuck, but Sekiro 2" looking back through lol.

 

[Roarschach]

Nope. If the game is good I'll buy it. Even if it's made by Adolf Hitler himself.

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Would you buy if the creator had killed your dog, or worse, someone in your family?

 

[Allforce]

I guess the only "ActiBlizzard" games I'm even into are Call of Duty and I barely play those. I really don't know or care to know about all this China/Hong Kong stuff so I voted no because for the entire remainder of my life I will likely play a Call of Duty game or Diablo or something at some point so my boycott would be meaningless.

 

[Boiled Goose]

You can criticize, no problem, I just ask that you keep it polite. =)

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You have the right to your owm opinion.
You don't have the right to politeness.

If you're directly funding genocide without any qualms then you deserve a proper "fuck you".

 

[Phalk]

Would you buy if the creator had killed your dog, or worse, someone in your family?

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No because that would be personal. But if it was really good and other people bought it, I wouldn't hate them for it.

 

[Phalk]

You have the right to your owm opinion.
You don't have the right to politeness.

If you're directly funding genocide without any qualms then you deserve a proper "fuck you".

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Well, in that case, I think you deserve a lot of love and happiness!
I really mean it.

 

[Astronut325]

Uh... I want to delete my Blizzard account. It's asking for my ID. Is this what others are doing?

 

[Boiled Goose]

Well, in that case, I think you deserve a lot of love and happiness!
I really mean it.

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You're just trolling.

Can't say that shit because you can't wish love and happiness to the people you dont give a fuck about

 

[Loan Wolf]

I haven't bought an ActiBlizzard product since the CEOs and executives fattened their bonuses at the expense of employee layoffs a few months back.

 

[Deleted member 57578]

Uh... I want to delete my Blizzard account. It's asking for my ID. Is this what others are doing?

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It gave me SMS and email options as well. None of them worked at first. Eventually I was able to verify via sms. Someone earlier mentioned they had the same issue- only being offered the ID. Contact support and they should get you sorted.

 

[Villein]

wow sub cancelled

 

[Astronut325]

It gave me SMS and email options as well. None of them worked at first. Eventually I was able to verify via sms. Someone earlier mentioned they had the same issue- only being offered the ID. Contact support and they should get you sorted.

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It's only giving me the option to upload my ID. I really don't want to give my ID to pieces of shit like Blizzard.

 

[Rhaknar]

If you're directly funding genocide without any qualms then you deserve a proper "fuck you".

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just curious, is this bit still about Blizzard or just a general statement? Because "funding genocide" is very murky, unless you consider every company with dealings with China (aka where China profits from them), then you can include pretty much every developer or console maker out there and just say "videogames fund genocide".

Which technically wouldnt be false I guess? There's a fucked up thought >_<

 

[Kinsei]

Yeah.

 

[Roarschach]

No because that would be personal. But if it was really good and other people bought it, I wouldn't hate them for it.

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So the stance about being able to differentiate between the artist and person is BS then. It's just that your line of empathy is very small and doesn't extend beyond your close ones, just like many others.

 

[pbrand]

I already deleted my account today before seeing this thread, so... you can guess which response I picked in the poll.

 

[Kaivan]

just curious, is this bit still about Blizzard or just a general statement? Because "funding genocide" is very murky, unless you consider every company with dealings with China (aka where China profits from them), then you can include pretty much every developer or console maker out there and just say "videogames fund genocide".

Which technically wouldnt be false I guess? There's a fucked up thought >_<

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If we're going to go that far, then you're right. By entering the Chinese market, you're helping their economy, which ultimately help the country to prosper.

 

[Rhaknar]

If we're going to go that far, then you're right. By entering the Chinese market, you're helping their economy, which ultimately help the country to prosper.

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I mean its not even a "entering the market and helping the economy"... For example Tencent has 40% of Epic. Epic makes Unreal Engine. 90% or something stupid of videogames are made with Unreal Engine. So Tencent is getting paid, thus China is getting paid. Not to mention all the consoles made in China and whatnot. Slippery slope I guess.

 

[Expy]

If we're going to go that far, then you're right. By entering the Chinese market, you're helping their economy, which ultimately help the country to prosper.

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Almost anything you buy will help China prosper. It's just a fact of life.

 

[Famassu]

The last game I bought from ActiBlizzo was Transformers Devastation, so me saying I won't support them rings kinda hollow. But sure, I'm already boycotting THQ for the time being, might as well throw ActiBlizzard into the mix.

 

[Kaivan]

I mean its not even a "entering the market and helping the economy"... For example Tencent has 40% of Epic. Epic makes Unreal Engine. 90% or something stupid of videogames are made with Unreal Engine. So Tencent is getting paid, thus China is getting paid. Not to mention all the consoles made in China and whatnot. Slippery slope I guess.

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Tencent is a private company. It's different from opening a branch or factory in China as you would need to have a deal with the government directly.

Almost anything you buy will help China prosper. It's just a fact of life.

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True, and that's why it's best if we refrain from going into that direction. Let's just focus on protesting against ActiBlizzard's stance in all of this.

 

[MidweekCoyote]

Almost anything you buy will help China prosper. It's just a fact of life.

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This.

Boycotting for a proper cause is fine, but I challenge you to walk around your house/apartment and check how many things were either made or owned by China. Half of those things you take for granted would be harder or more expensive to get to.