Yea looking it up it seems open carry is allowed and so is having a weapon in the car. So they are going with the story that "he reached for the weapon!" ?
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Arkansas cop says black man has a gun until he realizes he's on Facebook live
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Yea looking it up it seems open carry is allowed and so is having a weapon in the car. So they are going with the story that "he reached for the weapon!" ?
All these good cops out there speaking out against this and trying to stop bullshit charges from happening. The support is truly deafening.
Arkansas, An accessible firearm is presumed to be carried as a weapon used against a person. Basically, if the firearms is able to be reached within a vehicle, it's presumed to be a weapon carried to be against a person.
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You have to prove that there was a reasonable need to have the gun in an accessible area. i.e. someone threatened you.
That's all in regard to the weapon itself. Nothing about what the officer did was reasonable in my professional opinion.
Can't just let the man walk free...nah. That would mean the pig made a mistake.
And we can't have that now can we?
And we can't have that now can we?
I've had to clear many parking lots after ours, during ours, and the best approach was to just give people time to get out of the parking lot. Not make a big deal about like the officer(s) did in this case.
That's a standard way of holding it when you're that close to someone. It prevents the other person from grabbing your gun.
Reading it more, the burden of proof clearly lies with the officers. There should be no assumption that there was intent to use the weapon against someone else unlawfully - for this reason a lot of weapons charges get thrown out in the state.
That said, the presence of a weapon in a vehicle can be considered reasonable suspicion, which can result in being temporarily detained and searched.
This and the BS loitering charges are what they are using to justify the arrest.
And the Victims subsequent refusal to follow contradictory and dangerous orders are thrown in because the weapons and loitering charges won't stick.
And the resisting arrest charges are thrown in because when ever an officer chooses to slam someone on the ground, that person is always considered to be resistant. Hell the natural, involuntary act of bracing while trying to keep your face from slamming into the concrete is considered resisting.
It's truly a no win situation for us out here.
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It looks like a modified chest ready stance to me. He's holding it with one hand because he's also holding a flashlight.
I found an example
I wonder how they'll put that argument with transporting a rifle vs legally carrying a handgun though. I agree with you 100% though, it's a no win situation when you have the officer going to the most extreme available without reason.
Yea, modified, and incorrectly being used.
Any minute now the nra will come out in defense of this man.........any minute now.
"I feel threatened! You have a weapon!"
"Sir, this is a bucket."
How is this not a parody? Christ.
That's a start, but it better be the proper termination at the very least.
Like domestic violence these dudes always have a record leading up to their first body
Kid was smart to stream the exchange and refuse to put his hands out of sight... but let's be honest here, that didn't save his life. The cop fucked up, that's what saved his life. What he was going for is pretty obvious.
1 - Tell the target to stop the car.
2 - Wait until the target moves his hands out of sight to follow the order.
3 - Scream GUN.
4 - Shoot.
Guess he was a little too excited, since as soon as the kid twitched he skipped right to step 3 which didn't even give him time to reach the stick which in time gave him time to react, put both hands in plain sight and freeze like that. It's only several moments after this happens that the cop actually notices the phone and asks him if he's recording. So I think even this well-prepared, quick to react black lad would've ended up as a stiff if the cop didn't fuck up the good old four step minority shooting standard procedure.
Now think about how many badges probably don't fuck it up. This level of preparation and the kid still just avoided getting shot, out of pure chance.
Good thing I'm white and european. Can't even imagine living in those circumstances.
1 - Tell the target to stop the car.
2 - Wait until the target moves his hands out of sight to follow the order.
3 - Scream GUN.
4 - Shoot.
Guess he was a little too excited, since as soon as the kid twitched he skipped right to step 3 which didn't even give him time to reach the stick which in time gave him time to react, put both hands in plain sight and freeze like that. It's only several moments after this happens that the cop actually notices the phone and asks him if he's recording. So I think even this well-prepared, quick to react black lad would've ended up as a stiff if the cop didn't fuck up the good old four step minority shooting standard procedure.
Now think about how many badges probably don't fuck it up. This level of preparation and the kid still just avoided getting shot, out of pure chance.
Good thing I'm white and european. Can't even imagine living in those circumstances.
If he was white it wouldn't have been a big deal. He may have been a sked to step out of the car but he wouldn't have a gun pulled on him
That cop was going to pull the trigger as soon as that guy lowered his hands. I'm sure that if he complied with the order to shut the car off by lowering his hands to turn the key, the cop would have claimed the guy reached for a gun.
The officer was looking to earn his new stripes in the klanhood. The "I killed a black person" badge.
The officer was looking to earn his new stripes in the klanhood. The "I killed a black person" badge.
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