Right. People that don’t understand how policing works...the thread.
Armed Neo-Nazis Crash Detroit Pride with Police Escort (see staff post)
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I live pretty near Philly, where the police force had to explicitly clarify their tattoo policies because one of their own was walking around with an outright Nazi tattoo right in plain view on his forearm. It's not a stretch to say that white supremacists and literal Nazis have infiltrated police around the nation. Hell, there are studies that plainly show this to be the case.
Yep, this. Like them or not, the police did EXACTLY what they were there to do. Maintain the peace, keep anyone from getting out of hand and hurt/killed. I doubt they really wanted to be in the middle of this.
The police force and white supremacy has been intertwined for a long time.
That’s what’s gross, not calling it out.
This has happened before and isn’t a result of 2016.
I swear if I see defeatist crap even if the best case scenario happens in 2020 I’m gonna lose my mind.
Enough with this “Nothing better can ever happen” nonsense already.
Keep toeing that blue line. I wonder if your the type of person that thinks theirs nothing wrong with police or the justice system in general in the US? Also the hate that some people do have for police and the justice system in general is warranted through years upon years of corruption and oppression.
Sure, there’s issues in policing especially in the US compared to the rest of the world, but most of this thread is acting like the police want to go on this march. The reality is the march with have been granted permission by the council, and because you know you can’t just allow your citizens to murder or brawl in your street that’s why they’ve got the escort. I mean looking at the video most of the cops seem to be black. You really think they want to be dealing with that?
If you’re angry the march got approval you need to be directing your anger at the council, not the cops.
They're marching around Detroit with armed Nazi's. I don't know how anybody could consider themselves Americans and support them but that's just me.
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We should just ignore them and they’ll go away, right? What a thoroughly dangerous and appallingly inaccurate misread of what’s occurring in this country. In Charlottesville, there were many normal looking whites in attendance, men who were fit, looked of means, and had no neckbeards, all of them holding Tiki torches and screaming white supremacist invective. Had the gates of Hell been opened on that evening, what poured forth would not have been as evil as what could be seen in the eyes of those men. This is the rise of fascism in America. The neoconfederates who have been here for 150 years are tired of waiting and are on the march. Acting as if this will go away if we treat them with “less urgency and seriousness” is a recipe for genocide.
Their job is to serve and protect, what part of that is letting armed people with a history of violence engage with people they target? It's like giving a domestic abusing ride back home after beating their partner
And follewed it up with a question implying that black officers couldn’t themselves also be enforcers of white supremacy. Because, “Look, they’re black.” lol
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Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, but they're still Nazis.
No one is arguing or gives a shit about the supposed legality of the cops doing this dumb shit
I know you've been banned but you're going to look at the history of policing in the US and really say some dumb shit like this? You think people's strong dislike for the police is unjustified, 'gross' and 'unnecessary'? You don't think there are folks on this forum who have been victims or have had family members and friends directly affected by police and state violence? Your comment is what's really gross and unnecessary here
Well it would have been the council that approved the march, not the police. So yes it’s in the interest of both sides that a police presence is there. Like you really think it’s a good idea for these nutters with guns to be marching and then a brawl kicks off?
Even in the small town of England where I live there was a BNP march and that had a police escort. And those dickheads didn’t even have guns!
I understand why people have so many issues with the police in the US (I lived there for a year and seen it myself), but for so much hatred in this thread to be directed at them for “protecting Nazis” is just so disingenuous to how policing works.
The police sympathizers in this forum really have to try hard to use those two brain cells of theirs to reason with bullshit like this huh?
that's cool that's how policing works in your small town of england, but not here.
police have a history intertwined with supremacy over minorities here, in the UK too but i mean i won't speak on your country like you spoke on mine as that's ignorant.
Your problem is equating police in america with police in the UK. You are ignoring alot of history and systematic issues. I mean alot of police departments formed from slave catchers.
Maybe you should educate your self on how police works in America. Did the BNP or the police have guns during the march? Do the police in UK have a long history of being close to white supremeacy groups? Do the police in your country have a history of operating with little to no oversight? Does the police in your coultry have a long history running operations against marginalized people? I mean fucking Stonegate is one of the reason Pride marches are a thing and necessary.
I mean, it's possible for them to keep the peace at the rally without literally marching with the Nazis. If a fight breaks out at the rally between people who aren't marching alongside the cops, what happens? Do the cops not intervene?
They're escorting armed groups of people who WANT TO KILL PEOPLE LIKE ME. Do you get that? Do you get what it means to have one of the few places in public where you could safely express a part of yourself crashed by armed people who think you're some kind of disease, because they can count on the police for protection more than you can? Do you get what it's like to be afraid of the police because you know if they hurt you, or just don't help due to some implicit bias, nothing will happen to them? With statistics that actually reinforce that as a reasonable concern?
If you think that "both sides" have their safety assured by the police presence here, then maybe the one who doesn't understand how policing works, at least in the context of US history, is you. I'm supposed to go easy on the police here because "oh maybe they're just following orders!" like that magically makes up for the effects their actions have on people. What the fuck is that?
Didn't realise you could fly a Nazi flag and cover yourself in swastikas and yell obscenities and hate speech out in the open over in America. And also having a police escort while you're doing it.
I’ve literally had first hand experience with how shit the cops in the US can be. Myself and a friend got picked up for underage drinking. I got let off the hook, my friend who is black got charged.
I’m not defending the police as an institution. Saying it’s got issues in your country is a massive understatement. I’m saying is pretty obvious why this march got an escort and that it’s the council that are to blame for its approval though.
So again, what do you think would happen if the police were just patrolling the march and a fight started between Nazis and other attendees? Would they be incapable of intervening?
The whole point is to act as a barrier to stop it getting to that point. Sure every one of those Nazis deserves a punch, but allowing fights to start when people have guns isn’t the best idea.
Last time I checked white supremacy was listed under domestic terrorism. Maybe keep the peace by sending the bigots with the guns home?
You really think this was about keeping the peace and not about police showing solidarity with the white power movement.
That's adorable.
Cops were at least marching with the correct group. They probably had friends and family in the group they were protecting.
Michigan is an open carry state.
& regarding the flag, i would say some would try to make it fall under religious freedom, free speech, ettc. as that would allow them to fly it openly. It’s the same as if it were a confederate flag. while we know the meaning behind it, if the people are not initiating actual harm, it’s hard to get it taken down
you know, if i saw a group of armed neo-nazis out on the streets i would definitely fear for my life
sure is odd how cops feel totally comfortable around armed neo-nazis, yet regularly fear for their lives at the sight of an unarmed person of color
really makes you think
sure is odd how cops feel totally comfortable around armed neo-nazis, yet regularly fear for their lives at the sight of an unarmed person of color
really makes you think
In a city like a detroit where the economy is shit and getting worse, it’s no surprise that these cops were doing what they were ordered to and did not want to lose their job. as much as we want people to be a holy savior for a certain group, there are personal issues that must also weigh in their decisions.
It's America, there were probably quite a few more people there with guns than just those guys. Why do they get a special escort?
Let's reverse the situation and say a bunch of antifa showed up at a "pro-freedom (wink wink)" rally with guns, would they get to march in the rally with police forming a barrier around them?
Maybe it was better for them to be escorted so no one get the idea to attack/provoke them and they start to get violent. :/
I swear it's close enough to resembling one from Wolfenstein 2.
Coward Nazi fucks, they knew they had free reign to crash a Pride parade cause they'd have help. Otherwise I very much they would have been there!