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Felicity |OT| The Final Arrow Episode as one final parting shot

Which was better Season 5 or 2?

  • Season 5

    Votes: 50 37.3%

  • Season 2

    Votes: 84 62.7%
  • Total voters
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Transporting the future cast to the present honestly works really damn well. Shame the season is short.

Hilarious that this handled future kids coming to the past better than Flash did.
 
gundamkyoukai

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Effect said:
I'm really disappointed this is the final season. I want a LOT more of this.
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I think because it the series final season is why it good
The have lower number of eps and they have a plan and don't have to worry about anything else.
So far it has been going good and they have a lot of history to pull from also .
 
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Seven Force said:
Transporting the future cast to the present honestly works really damn well. Shame the season is short.

Hilarious that this handled future kids coming to the past better than Flash did.
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for me the flash just feels like its a ridiculously small cast and everyone feels redundant.

haven't seen the new season but man flash's cast just keeps doing the same shit over and over with few differences.

and also their world building feels like its stuck at star labs and that's it.
 
Immortan

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Solid episode, glad it wasn't a 1 off where the kids show up and then resolve issues and leave. Like the new dynamic and how the monitor is good...but bad....but good? lol
 
Silver-Streak

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Effect said:
Well they had plenty of examples of what not to do. I'm still so annoyed with what Flash did with Nora.
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I mean...I'm disappointed that they spent a season on Nora at all. It seemed like a weird reason/way to get Reverse Flash out again. Which as much as I love him as a villain, they're making it real hard to believe Season 1 was his final end, which they keep repeating. :(
 
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-Lol at Mia telling Ollie Nyssa trained her not knowing Ollie is better than her. I low key thought that scene was gonna be a blow up with her trying to fight him and not going well for her.
-Someone needs to tell Diggle that when he don't know who to blame the correct answer is always Barry
-Mia telling everyone to not tell the truth is definitely a Queen trait she picked up from her father.
-I'm a expect every final episode moment to be Monitor's (or Anti-Moniter's) doing.
-It's really weird cause while I like all these individual stories the DCCW shows are telling I just REALLY want it to be Crisis already
 
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Clu said:
Solid episode, glad it wasn't a 1 off where the kids show up and then resolve issues and leave. Like the new dynamic and how the monitor is good...but bad....but good? lol
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I figure we are seeing both the Monitor and Anti-Monitor. In fact, at this point I'm suspecting a type of montage thing in Crisis that will contextualize all these meetings and show who was whom.
 
Neoxon

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No lie, seeing Ollie & William bonding again was heartwarming, especially when William came out to him.
 

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Man after seeing the Titans Deathstroke suit, the Arrowverse one is so bad.

Mia seems more like an angsty teenager than an actual adult.

Barry should have told Oliver about Flashpoint lmao. That being said, I love time travel shenanigans so this is right up my alley.
 
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Casker said:
Barry should have told Oliver about Flashpoint lmao. That being said, I love time travel shenanigans so this is right up my alley.
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He did tell Oliver during the Dominators alien crossover several seasons back. Said how he did it, why he did it, and that it changed the gender of Diggle's child.
 
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Man after seeing the Titans Deathstroke suit, the Arrowverse one is so bad.

Mia seems more like an angsty teenager than an actual adult.

Barry should have told Oliver about Flashpoint lmao. That being said, I love time travel shenanigans so this is right up my alley.
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Mia is only 20 and angry at everything which is make sense with everything that happen.
She also got some of oliver worst traits lol
Ep was rather heart warming .
 
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Great episode. They really nailed the emotional impact with reuniting the kids with Ollie and Diggle. And Rene has done a complete 180 since I was almost done with him back in season 6 until Oliver almost killed him. Glad to see they're not having Mia stay angry at Oliver, and slowly building the relationship between them.
 
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I expected rene to go full ham on deathstroke if it was JJ but glad they dealt that surprisingly quickly and did it good as well.

If JJ was sent back into the past as well, it'll pretty much be a full season side plot with rene and diggle hulking out on each other.
 
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Me last week: Ugh, these future kids are gonna infect the present day and make it worse

This week: Alright fine y'all can stay this is adorable ;_;

Seven Force said:
Hilarious that this handled future kids coming to the past better than Flash did.
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To be fair, Arrow only has to deal with this shit for a few episodes, whereas Flash had to do it for an entire season. I mean, it'd probably still do it better than Flash, but I doubt we wouldn't have our fair share of gripes if it wasn't this short thing.

Neoxon said:
No lie, seeing Ollie & William bonding again was heartwarming, especially when William came out to him.
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I ain't gonna lie, I dunno if I buy that Oliver knew he was gay, but I'll allow it since it was a great scene anyhow
 
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chefbags said:
for me the flash just feels like its a ridiculously small cast and everyone feels redundant.

haven't seen the new season but man flash's cast just keeps doing the same shit over and over with few differences.

and also their world building feels like its stuck at star labs and that's it.
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It really is depressing looking at how terrible the worldbuilding is in the other Beeboverse shows like Flash and Supergirl.

Legends has done a fine job though building up its history.

gundamkyoukai said:
This is Oliver and Felicity won't be surprise if they knew by keeping tabs and semi spying \hacking him lol
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I'm sure you can find a way to rationalize it, but I meant more like based off of what we've seen of their relationship on-screen lol
 
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I liked it and glad future dynamic is good.
Also, why are we calling them future kids when Mia is like 21, William is like 33 and Connor is...27
 
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anyone wanna pitch to call it the Superverse? no?

Anyway that episode was great, it was emotional overload at times it was so intense. I really hated Diggle's reaction to Connor and I'm glad he snapped out of it. Rene was justifiably furious but he really dealt with things like an adult. Surprised but pleased they didn't send the kids back right away, they can mine a lot of this dynamic.

Also I guess Dinah's story is just done at this point, she's like "oh I'm gonna start a team called the Canaries? cool!"
 
carlsojo

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What a fantastic episode.

Oliver's reaction to being told his kids didn't grow up together was... raw.

We finally got payoffs to the flashforwards and in the end I think it was worth it. All the kids get stuff to do now and they're sooo much better.

Laurel being the moral compass for Felicity and now Mia is amazing. Black Siren is just the gift that keeps on giving.
 
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What a fantastic episode.

Oliver's reaction to being told his kids didn't grow up together was... raw.

We finally got payoffs to the flashforwards and in the end I think it was worth it. All the kids get stuff to do now and they're sooo much better.

Laurel being the moral compass for Felicity and now Mia is amazing. Black Siren is just the gift that keeps on giving.
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Yup, I forgot to mention that, Stephen sold the shit out of that.
 
Serene

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This episode was all feelings. Loved it. The kids all had great chemistry with the current cast and it was nice to see them in a timeline where everything isn't awful all the time. Connor/Diggle feels. Oliver/William/Mia feels.

Also, Mar Novu you son of a bitch always getting these stingers
 
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I thought it was a cool episode, but didn't make me anymore excited for the spin-off with Arrow Jrs. I'm just not that big a fan of any of the future characters.

Never was that big of a Curtis fan, but it was cool seeing him back again for the final season.
 
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Amell and Ben Lewis' acting was on fire this episode. Amell just spent the whole episode fluctuating between immense pride and heartbreak within seconds. Oh and Rick Gonzalez too. Basically everyone got a chance to do some series best work. Except Dinah, who was just being chill as fuck lol. e: wait even she got to do great pep talks

AV Club: A-

They nicely point out how much it means for William to see a gay tech hero like himself, which is cool.

 
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Does the Monitor have the power to completely restore a lost universe? I didn't think Monitors were that strong.
 
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I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and say shenanigans are afoot

Like it's basically a given that at least some of the Monitor sightings so far were actually the Anti-Monitor who is not trustworthy
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Yeah. If we are seeing the Anti-Monitor pretending to be the real one (I'm sure the book they found was showing him) I wonder when they'll actually do the reveal.
 
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Silver-Streak said:
I mean...I'm disappointed that they spent a season on Nora at all. It seemed like a weird reason/way to get Reverse Flash out again. Which as much as I love him as a villain, they're making it real hard to believe Season 1 was his final end, which they keep repeating. :(
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What? The current RF is the one from S1.

He survived.
 
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