You need people hooked at the start to keep playing in a few months when the first expansion hits, if you make them mad now they aren't going to be playing months from now.
Yep - OR - they refund the game before they even play it (like I did)
You need people hooked at the start to keep playing in a few months when the first expansion hits, if you make them mad now they aren't going to be playing months from now.
Artifact Steam Market goes live on the 28thLmao, rookie mistake if they ever played yugioh or magic in real life. Should know by now to never buy packs if youre chasing a specfic deck, always buy singles
I mean yeah, knew that. They just shouldnt be surprised when they get nothing good outta packs
The Artifact public beta is starting later today. All attendees from this year's International and everyone who redeemed a beta key will find the game activated in their Steam account.
Since lifting the NDA on the private beta yesterday, there's been an overwhelming amount of feedback on all parts of the game. Much of that feedback has been a clear signal that we underestimated how much interest and excitement the community has around certain features that weren't available in the initial beta build.
We want to take a few minutes to talk about some of those missing features now:
The first two changes will be live for everyone when the public beta activates later today. We'll ship the recycling system, as well as other improvements to the beta, over the next week and a half.
- There was no way to do a draft event with friends. We didn't prioritize this play mode, and had planned to enable it sometime after release. We've heard your feedback: drafting with friends is a core part of what you want to spend your time doing in Artifact. In the next Artifact beta build, you can select Call To Arms Phantom Draft in any user-created tournament.
- There was no way to practice the draft modes without spending an event ticket. Drafting is incredibly fun, but can also be very intimidating. We agree that it's important to have a way to practice before venturing into a more competitive mode. In the next Artifact beta build, everyone who has claimed their starting content will find a Casual Phantom Draft gauntlet available in the Casual Play section.
- There was nothing to do with duplicate starter heroes. We're adding a system that allows extra, unwanted cards to be recycled into event tickets. This feature will ship before the end of the beta period.
For not liking the game? A lot of people have issues with the game.
As an old-time MTG player and someone who regularly buys like 150 packs for every Hearthstone set (using Amazon coins, so at a 25% discount) I'm very far from the F2P player experience so I'm quite willing to throw money at this game.
But oh hey as I was writing this I just saw an update.
As an old-time MTG player and someone who regularly buys like 150 packs for every Hearthstone set (using Amazon coins, so at a 25% discount) I'm very far from the F2P player experience so I'm quite willing to throw money at this game. I was gonna say that having a way to get rid of cards for event tickets would be a great way to stabilize the economy and also get rid of the starter heroes problem. And oh hey as I was writing this I just saw an update.
I don't see how that's an issue. They can issue you an x hour/day ban if you abandon and after y amount of abandons you get permanently banned from the whole game mode.Posted it in the other thread but I wonder how Casual Phantom Draft will work with people abandoning and redrafting decks to get a good one. That's not really in the spirit of draft and will probably make it a lot less appealing.
But good changes all around.
As an old-time MTG player and someone who regularly buys like 150 packs for every Hearthstone set (using Amazon coins, so at a 25% discount) I'm very far from the F2P player experience so I'm quite willing to throw money at this game. I was gonna say that having a way to get rid of cards for event tickets would be a great way to stabilize the economy and also get rid of the starter heroes problem. And oh hey as I was writing this I just saw an update.
That's some quick turnaround on responding with promises of features. The beauty of this being a "beta" period and all that. And that's very, very good news on "worthless" card recycling, though we'll have to see exactly how that plays out.
for the lazy:
UPDATE
The Artifact public beta is starting later today. All attendees from this year's International and everyone who redeemed a beta key will find the game activated in their Steam account.
Since lifting the NDA on the private beta yesterday, there's been an overwhelming amount of feedback on all parts of the game. Much of that feedback has been a clear signal that we underestimated how much interest and excitement the community has around certain features that weren't available in the initial beta build.
We want to take a few minutes to talk about some of those missing features now:
The first two changes will be live for everyone when the public beta activates later today. We'll ship the recycling system, as well as other improvements to the beta, over the next week and a half.
- There was no way to do a draft event with friends. We didn't prioritize this play mode, and had planned to enable it sometime after release. We've heard your feedback: drafting with friends is a core part of what you want to spend your time doing in Artifact. In the next Artifact beta build, you can select Call To Arms Phantom Draft in any user-created tournament.
- There was no way to practice the draft modes without spending an event ticket.Drafting is incredibly fun, but can also be very intimidating. We agree that it's important to have a way to practice before venturing into a more competitive mode. In the next Artifact beta build, everyone who has claimed their starting content will find a Casual Phantom Draft gauntlet available in the Casual Play section.
- There was nothing to do with duplicate starter heroes. We're adding a system that allows extra, unwanted cards to be recycled into event tickets. This feature will ship before the end of the beta period.
Please enjoy the beta, and keep sending us your feedback.
Yep, sounds great.Fantastic. Didn't expect the recycling into tickets. It sounds like it can be beneficial to the marketplace, removing cheap worthless cards incrementally to help people finish making said ticket.
Is this game secretly made by Blizzard to make Hearthstone's card buying model look fair?
Yes, the latest update says you can recycle them for tickets (draft/arena)How will the economy handle useless cards like bad commons? I assume at some point everyone will get stuck with lots of useless commons and the market will get flooded with these for sale for 1 cent or something meaningless like that. Will they let you convert them to draft tickets?
LOL but no recycling in Dota 2That's some quick turnaround on responding with promises of features. The beauty of this being a "beta" period and all that. And that's very, very good news on "worthless" card recycling, though we'll have to see exactly how that plays out.
But unlike Hearthstone there are hoarders and market manipulators. People who will sit on OP cards because they are bored and have $10,000 steam dollars.And I appreciate the honesty of the Artifact monetization system. You pay for everything. No grinding, no scummy F2P tactics to annoy people to buy, etc. Though I assume the overall cost to complete a collection of Artifact cards will be less than Hearthstone because with Hearthstone you can theoretically get a complete set for $0, so they have to add in more filler and bad cards. Since Artifact has only real money entering the system they can have the average quality of the content be higher.
but how many extras you need to convert it into an event ticket? it's probably not going to be that great because then you can buy worthless cards off the market and convert them to tickets or something. Or maybe this means there won't be any worthless card or cheap card on the market because people would rather convert theirs to tickets??
This whole economy thing can get very complicated. It's a game in itself. I don't think this addition was something they had planned, it's reactionary but they gotta get the numbers right or it will have other side effects creeping up later.
but how many extras you need to convert it into an event ticket? it's probably not going to be that great because then you can buy worthless cards off the market and convert them to tickets or something. Or maybe this means there won't be any worthless card or cheap card on the market because people would rather convert theirs to tickets?? Increasing the price floor of the cards as a result.
This whole economy thing can get very complicated. It's a game in itself. I don't think this addition was something they had planned, it's reactionary but they gotta get the numbers right or it will have other side effects creeping up later.
Yes, each player gets 5 packs of Call to Arms packs (Set #1) and draft with them. You don't keep the cards you draft. If it is Casual mode, there is no entry and there are no rewards. If it is Expert, it costs a ticket and you can win tickets/packs if you win games.
hahaha they have like a whole team on artfax compared to like 3 people on the Dota teamFree casual draft, even with no prizes, sounds fantastic to me. As well as being able to recycle cards for event tickets to play the drafts with prizes.
Argh, I'm so on the fence. I think I'm going to cave if Valve really are going to be this quick to listen.
Constructed really needs the Steam Community Market otherwise it's all RNG on what cards you getValve is usually good about feedback, I'm more surprised they're working on a sunday.
I have to say I'm not liking closed beta players saying constructed sucks, I'm pretty indifferent to limited formats so constructed being a snooze is a no go for me. Maybe they got burnt out testing it through the year.
Constructed really needs the Steam Community Market otherwise it's all RNG on what cards you get
Rdu specifically said some hero just broken as hell tho. That the reason why he think constructed is close to unplayable state right now.Closed beta players had access to all the cards though. I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a form of meta burn out.
Why are people opening packs then?Closed beta players had access to all the cards though. I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a form of meta burn out.
Why are people opening packs then?
Kripp opened $300 worth and didn't get the ones he wanted.
Sing must've spent around $300 as well