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Artifact |OT| Mangoj eebayted

Oct 27, 2017
3,921
100 hour in and I just learned disarm still made hero can cast, cost me a lethal.. so salty
I just found out last night that pierce also applies to cleave. For some reason I thought they would be seperate like the cleave damage would be separate from the regular damage and pierce. Lotta good Ursa's Enrage does...

just got my monoblue stomped by a red/green ramp

i gotta try that deck, seemed very fun
I really want to try a blue/green ramp deck. Tree/Ench with Prellex/Veno and keep buffing the creeps and keeping them alive. Not sure how viable it is though.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,800
Chicago
Anyone up for an in house draft tourney? I want to help keep the game alive as im very much enjoying it
I was playing in a group of three friends and we couldn't figure out how to set up a draft tournament that we could all join together.

In fact, we couldn't figure out how to set up any tournament where we could get another player from the general pool. How is it done?
 
Oct 25, 2017
832
Surrey, UK.
Been playing a little bit of all the modes. Probably put the most time into Constructed and Draft though, the latter I really couldn’t seem to put a good draft together for, I went on a huge winless run until making a Blue/Green deck a few nights back that got me my first win. I subsequently bought all the cards for that deck I didn’t have for £1 or so and have entered it into the mix with my other two main decks.

One of my other main decks is a Red/Green Deck which I constructed as my first deck very early on with the game and have got most of my wins from and another is a Red/Black deck that I saw was successful on one of the Discord servers and copied - although aside from one or two wins I haven’t had much success with it myself.

I’m slightly embarrassed to note that I until a few days ago I didn’t realise the ‘Call to Arms’ event matches were against other real folks and assumed it was just Bot matches (which personally doesn’t interest me at all) and gave it a hard pass but I finally decided to give it a go and have had a lot of fun trying out all the different decks on offer.

Had quite a few wins from the monoblue deck on ‘Call of Arms’ which I’ve really enjoyed, one came on the very last hand on the very last round which felt absolutely incredible to pull off.

This is such an incredible game though. Not played a CCG before so I’ve nothing to compare it to but it is easily my GOTY. Tactical, tense, thoughtful and utterly engrossing. When the wins come they are utterly exhilarating and make you feel on cloud 9 but when you lose in a very close game you feel utterly crestfallen.
 
Oct 25, 2017
8,999
NYC
i played dota for 40 hours

don't remember a thing about it except it was like a confusing league of legends without the memorable characters or appealing art style
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,726
That's two matches I've won in the past 24 hours entirely down to Dark Seer's ability. First one lasted to turn 15 - I nearly lost it in turn 5, but I flipped a Blue Hero into the middle lane to try and not die embarrassingly quickly, and just chipped away at two of their towers. The second I just won after flipping an Emmisary of the Quorum into the third lane where a n enemy creep and 4 of my units were. Luna finished off the creep, and the +2 across all 5 units gave me the 30 damage needed to finish off their second tower. Just.

ff

is all they wrote. :p

I genuinely think Dark Seer is underestimated. I rarely see opponents play him, and when I do they never use his ability.
 

ZeroX

Banned
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,208
Speed Force
I genuinely think Dark Seer is underestimated. I rarely see opponents play him, and when I do they never use his ability.
He's fine, but in constructed you're almost certainly running Blink Daggers or similar so lane movement isn't as important plus he's required to be in the lane so he's not great for last minute shifting like a TP scroll. He also has an average hero card in a pool of extremely good 4 cost green cards.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,726
He's fine, but in constructed you're almost certainly running Blink Daggers or similar so lane movement isn't as important plus he's required to be in the lane so he's not great for last minute shifting like a TP scroll. He also has an average hero card in a pool of extremely good 4 cost green cards.
Yeah his Sig card really isn't great, but I think the fact that he's required to be in the lane isn't the worst. If he's in a lane that's mostly won, then casting a creep using his lane's mana pool to then kick the creep into a different lane is a neat trick, I think.
 

ZeroX

Banned
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,208
Speed Force
Yeah his Sig card really isn't great, but I think the fact that he's required to be in the lane isn't the worst. If he's in a lane that's mostly won, then casting a creep using his lane's mana pool to then kick the creep into a different lane is a neat trick, I think.
Yeah but if he’s in a lane that’s mostly won he probably wants to get out of the lane himself and start taking the second one. I did play a couple of green games with DS now specifically to play with Surge, I did throw over two big creeps into a lane but after a point I just let him die because I needed him in contested lanes more.

It’s not so much that DS is bad, just hard to justify playing him when other cards do lane movement better and Green already has 5+ better heroes.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,726
It’s not so much that DS is bad, just hard to justify playing him when other cards do lane movement better and Green already has 5+ better heroes.
Yeah, I'm keeping him in because Surge amuses me, but I think I'll have to switch him out at some point in the (kinda near?) future, just to improve my deck.
 

Hektor

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,359
Deutschland
Wow, so in draft when a player drafts multiple meepos, they're all interconnected.
I somehow thought they'd be treated as two different batches of meepos.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,743
The problem with it working that way, is that when the Meepo summoning card is used, you would have no idea what Meepo it is attached to.

Makes more sense they would all be effected IMO. It also fits the effect description more "other allied Meepos in every lane also die".
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,272
That's two matches I've won in the past 24 hours entirely down to Dark Seer's ability. First one lasted to turn 15 - I nearly lost it in turn 5, but I flipped a Blue Hero into the middle lane to try and not die embarrassingly quickly, and just chipped away at two of their towers. The second I just won after flipping an Emmisary of the Quorum into the third lane where a n enemy creep and 4 of my units were. Luna finished off the creep, and the +2 across all 5 units gave me the 30 damage needed to finish off their second tower. Just.

ff

is all they wrote. :p

I genuinely think Dark Seer is underestimated. I rarely see opponents play him, and when I do they never use his ability.
I think he's underrated in draft because he's not so good in constructed, where you're probably running blink daggers anyway.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,743
Yeah, if you don't draw mobility in draft then Dark Seer can come in handy. Otherwise he isn't that useful unless you have a huge thunderhide or something in a lane you've already won.

EDIT:

I just noticed that your profile picture cannot be changed to one earned in a previous tier. That seems like an annoying oversight.
 

Toxi

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,511
I just played the intro and there were two things that stuck out to me.

One: The rules are dense. They throw so many new keywords and concepts at you in the very first game. I still don't quite understand how the arrows distributed to lanes work. There's a clear depth and I like that, but this tutorial really should have eased me in better. I alsothink the number of moving parts is excessive; for example, I don't get why there are two different win conditions, with one (destroying two towers) being so much easier to accomplish than the other (destroy one tower and the ancient).

Second: I don't play DOTA2 and so I'm not familiar with the source material, but Artifact's flavor is dull. The setting is generic and lacks any sort of hook. Maybe I'll get attached to some of the heroes, but none of them so far have grabbed me. And UI elements like the little furry pixies and the "shop" feel like something from a mobile game.

I'm not sure if I want to refund the game or not though. It's fascinating just how unique it is, and I think the complexity will become less of an issue if I keep playing.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,726
I just played the intro and there were two things that stuck out to me.

One: The rules are dense. They throw so many new keywords and concepts at you in the very first game. I still don't quite understand how the arrows distributed to lanes work. There's a clear depth and I like that, but this tutorial really should have eased me in better. I alsothink the number of moving parts is excessive; for example, I don't get why there are two different win conditions, with one (destroying two towers) being so much easier to accomplish than the other (destroy one tower and the ancient).
This is where more complexity comes in: sometimes it's actually easier to destroy one tower and the ancient, especially if your opponent makes a strong play against you in both of their remaining lanes. I literally just won a game against someone where I had to change my strategy mid-game, and focus on the tower I'd already destroyed. There's a lot of cards that ramp up damage on existing units, and other cards generate units (like Red Mist in the post up the page). The two different win conditions lends the game more depth, though it is hard to get a handle on when you should focus on what. :)
 
Oct 30, 2017
3,878
San Diego
I'm upset, I threw two games in prize constructed. The first one would have been a draw if I just BoD first, but I decided to heal for some reason and he used Enough Magic. Second game I was just tilted and kept making mistakes even though I could have won.

:(
 

ZeroX

Banned
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,208
Speed Force
I'm upset, I threw two games in prize constructed. The first one would have been a draw if I just BoD first, but I decided to heal for some reason and he used Enough Magic. Second game I was just tilted and kept making mistakes even though I could have won.

:(
Enough Magic is such a great card. Not broken, but a properly timed or predicted one can be a thing of beauty.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,743
There are certain cards which I feel are powerful but just brilliantly designed, Enough Magic is definitely one of them.

I really like The Oath as well.
 

Hektor

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,359
Deutschland
Just had the very satisfying experience of turning a loss into a tie after my opponent was pressuring me into surrendering via chat.

"?"
"???"
"you lost"
"What's your plan dude???"

"This is my plan babe"

Mututally Assured Destruction

 
Oct 25, 2017
1,241
Canada
Put down Forward Charge as one of other surprisingly useful cards in Draft. I've ran a deck with 1 copy and it's surprisingly competent (and surprising) game finisher.

Actually had 5 win run today (1 loss), and one of the game had a case where opponents used The Oath on first lane. Barely blocked it via transporting another hero to that lane using Dark Seer and immediately forced down 40 HP first lane tower for the win. Downside for The Oath seem so super huge considering how easy it's to counter - you just need to put a body in front of enemies.
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,726
I imagine Blue/Black with The Oath would be crazy, used right - Prey on the Weak follow by a couple of Dimensional Portals. Then parachute a Black Hero in, Blink Dagger the Blue Hero out, play it and laugh maniacally. I've not actually come across anyone using The Oath, though - maybe this happens all the time and I've just not seen it?
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,002
I imagine Blue/Black with The Oath would be crazy, used right - Prey on the Weak follow by a couple of Dimensional Portals. Then parachute a Black Hero in, Blink Dagger the Blue Hero out, play it and laugh maniacally. I've not actually come across anyone using The Oath, though - maybe this happens all the time and I've just not seen it?
creep deck isn't a thing in this game because at any cost exist

its bonker in draft tho lol