Artifact |OT| Development Stopped

Tim · Feb 1, 2020

Any mechanical changes were going to require a rework of set one, so it's hard to visualize how the new version will play. Sounds like basically a whole new game. Honestly, given how much Valve has bungled Underlords, I'm not sure how much faith I have in them to pull a rework off.

LightBang · Feb 2, 2020

Really hope they barely touch the gameplay. Only two complains I had: one was the long ass games and second was the lack of variety which would be solved with expansions.

Artifact problems lie elsewhere. First thing they can't give indiscriminate access to 2.0 to streamers. Them saying it's the "best game ever", " too complicated" etc..., besides them molding the meta from the start, that was way more significant than it might seem. Everyone remember Axe's price?

Anyway, hope they can bring it back. This game deserves a second life.

theMrCravens · Feb 2, 2020

Wouldn't they need to "reboot" and reset all progress (with a new progression system) for this to have any chance of getting picked up by the masses ?

RepairmanJack · Feb 2, 2020

theMrCravens said:
Wouldn't they need to "reboot" and reset all progress (with a new progression system) for this to have any chance of getting picked up by the masses ?

They'd basically be making the first progression for the game really. The one in it was just a bandaid trying to stave off the leak of players. It's so thrown together you can't even select older player portraits and stuff. It's just kind of there.

jon bones · Feb 2, 2020

I was burned badly, but the changes sound very interesting.

I am having a blast with LoR, but if they can differentiate this by being a mobile board game and not a PC CCG I will be back to try it again.

I just better start with an absolute monster package though - I own almost every card and was in beta/day one, so I expect a similarly near-complete collection + exclusive cosmetics for the 1.0.

ZeroX said:
I maintain what killed Artifact was this thread's title

yep, maybe the worst i've seen on the site history

RepairmanJack · Feb 2, 2020

jon bones said:
I was burned badly, but the changes sound very interesting.

I am having a blast with LoR, but if they can differentiate this by being a mobile board game and not a PC CCG I will be back to try it again.

I just better start with an absolute monster package though - I own almost every card and was in beta/day one, so I expect a similarly near-complete collection + exclusive cosmetics for the 1.0.

yep, maybe the worst i've seen on the site history

I wish I was liking LoR more. I'm liking it enough to play, but really not liking the spell system as a whole. Reminds me of times in Artifact of waiting out your opponent to spend their mana or winning out but getting hit with a damoclise, except instead of damicles it can happen multiple ways. I leave every session of playing just annoyed more than anything.

Love the art, effects and overall presentation though. I've come around a ton on those.

jon bones · Feb 2, 2020

RepairmanJack said:
I wish I was liking LoR more. I'm liking it enough to play, but really not liking the spell system as a whole. Reminds me of times in Artifact of waiting out your opponent to spend their mana or winning out but getting hit with a damoclise, except instead of damicles it can happen multiple ways. I leave every session of playing just annoyed more than anything.

Love the art, effects and overall presentation though. I've come around a ton on those.

I actually feel the opposite - the level of interactivity there is the perfect modernized, streamlined MtG spell system. Spell Mana is also a pretty genius system that pays real dividends in deckbuilding as curving out is a lot less vital.

I hope Artifact 2.0 can recapture and focus on the feeling of managing a MOBA battlefield, because I think while LoR has nailed teamfight skirmishes beautifully I do miss that board game vibe.

RepairmanJack · Feb 2, 2020

jon bones said:
I actually feel the opposite - the level of interactivity there is the perfect modernized, streamlined MtG spell system. Spell Mana is also a pretty genius system that pays real dividends in deckbuilding as curving out is a lot less vital.

I hope Artifact 2.0 can recapture and focus on the feeling of managing a MOBA battlefield, because I think while LoR has nailed teamfight skirmishes beautifully I do miss that board game vibe.

I think maybe my issue isn't so much the system but the abundance of tide turning cards. The abundance with how the system is just seems frustrating a lot of the time. It becomes more a battle of spells than about your deck overall.

TheYanger · Feb 2, 2020

RepairmanJack said:
I think maybe my issue isn't so much the system but the abundance of tide turning cards. The abundance with how the system is just seems frustrating a lot of the time. It becomes more a battle of spells than about your deck overall.

spells are part of your deck though.

Hektor · Feb 11, 2020

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jon bones · Feb 11, 2020

what am i looking at??

Hektor · Feb 11, 2020

jon bones said:
what am i looking at??

There is multiple experimental artifact entries in the steam library of a valve developer who uploaded a video

RepairmanJack · Feb 11, 2020

I am most definitely NOT going to read too much in to this.

Deleted member 2802 · Feb 11, 2020

Hektor said:
There is multiple experimental artifact entries in the steam library of a valve developer who uploaded a video

I would play Experimental Artifact

Pixieking · Feb 12, 2020

shira said:
I would play Experimental Artifact

That would be a great way giving people who bought the game added value prior to the f2p transition - beta and experimental access.

SteveWinwood · Feb 25, 2020

so far ive noticed kanna and prellex in the new underlords update

someone remembers they exist!

Deleted member 2802 · Mar 20, 2020

animal Xing, y u so 🦁 🐯 🐻

Deleted member 2802 · Mar 20, 2020

Valve's digital card game Artifact "reboot" is so large, it's internally being called Artifact 2, says Gabe Newell

Gabe Newell says Valve was "surprised" by digital card game Artifact's failure, but says the team isn't calling it quits just yet

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ARTIFACT 2

jon bones · Mar 20, 2020

Gonna take a lot to justify itself when Legends of Runeterra Mobile already exists.

Twig · Mar 20, 2020

legends of runeterra is boring tho

ALIV GAM

jon bones · Mar 20, 2020

i love it, and in a perfect world it sits next to a f2p artifact app that is also successful but wholly unique

i mean, i say stop taking influence from magic and go full netrunner asynch

or marvel champions co-op

be bold valve

Deleted member 2802 · Mar 20, 2020

jon bones said:
be bold valve

🤞

RepairmanJack · Mar 20, 2020

Just do cosmetics better than Underlords. Runeterra too, for that matter.

Deleted member 2802 · Mar 20, 2020

I hope 🎨📠 2️⃣ is not mobile.
fuck mobul

jon bones · Mar 20, 2020

shira said:
I hope 🎨📠 2️⃣ is not mobile.
fuck mobul

let's hope it still costs a lot of money to play, too

that'll def make sure it succeeds

Hektor · Mar 20, 2020

any day now

Twig · Mar 20, 2020

i mean the base game is already bold, tbh

plus it has better art than anything league has ever put out, which is a HUGE fuckin bonus

second best card game in existence after ashes: rise of the phoenixborn

don't @ me cause if you disagree you're wrong

SteveWinwood · Mar 20, 2020

Steam :: Artifact Classic :: Under Construction

First off, we wanted to say thanks for all of your tweets, emails and posts. The continued interest in Artifact has been encouraging, and we sincerely appreciate all of the feedback! You might notice some changes soon – we are starting tests on our systems and infrastructure. This shouldn’t...

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Twig said:
i mean the base game is already bold, tbh

plus it has better art than anything league has ever put out, which is a HUGE fuckin bonus

second best card game in existence after ashes: rise of the phoenixborn

don't @ me cause if you disagree you're wrong

the dota art across all of it's games and spinoffs has always been some of the best in the business

Deleted member 2802 · Mar 20, 2020

HYPE!

RepairmanJack · Mar 20, 2020

Fucking hype. Holy shit!

Pinco · Mar 20, 2020

OMG!!!

Deleted member 2802 · Mar 20, 2020

LONG HAUL ALMOST DUN GIRLS N BOIS

Twig · Mar 20, 2020

SteveWinwood said:
Steam :: Artifact Classic :: Under Construction

First off, we wanted to say thanks for all of your tweets, emails and posts. The continued interest in Artifact has been encouraging, and we sincerely appreciate all of the feedback! You might notice some changes soon – we are starting tests on our systems and infrastructure. This shouldn’t...

steamcommunity.com

the dota art across all of it's games and spinoffs has always been some of the best in the business

yup, shit's goddamn beautiful (let's pretend some of the more... eccentric cosmetics don't exist), and it's EXTREMELY impressive, considering the influences for all the characters are so obviously all over the place

jon bones · Mar 20, 2020

exciting times

i've never seen a game die twice

ZeroX · Mar 20, 2020

Sounds like the VNN leaks were correct

I'm all in

Hektor · Mar 20, 2020

IT IS HAPPENING

THE LONGEST HAUL

FINALLY PAYING OFF

fertygo · Mar 20, 2020

ALIVE GAEM BOIS

Let hope at least this time this frigginh card game wont melt my old pc for just playing

LightBang · Mar 20, 2020

Finally this thread doesn't disappoint me! Let's go! Kinda scared since Dota Underlords has proven to be worse than in the early beta.

ZeroX · Mar 20, 2020

fertygo said:
Let hope at least this time this frigginh card game wont melt my old pc for just playing

Yeah it was wild how hot my computer got. It was literally getting my thermals up to the same levels as DMC5. Compare that to Gwent where it's barely noticeable and Runeterra doesn't even get my fans running.

Won · Mar 20, 2020

Let's see what they got.

Runeterra feels like it gets worse with every patch, so I'm ready even for Valve shenanigans again.

Twig · Mar 21, 2020

LightBang said:
Finally this thread doesn't disappoint me! Let's go! Kinda scared since Dota Underlords has proven to be worse than in the early beta.

What you mean by this.

I don't like the genre at all, but it's only gotten more interesting to me. Mostly because of the single-player stuff, granted, but I really like the concept of "an underlord".

Pixieking · Mar 21, 2020

Thread title change = best thing to come out of this news. :p

Looking forward to 2.0, and hoping it'll be soon. I'm still toying with my Black/Green deck (switched out Sorla for Lich), but there's not much point doing that too much with 2.0 on the actual horizon.

Deleted member 2802 · Mar 21, 2020

Pixieking said:
Thread title change = best thing to come out of this news. :p

Looking forward to 2.0, and hoping it'll be soon. I'm still toying with my Black/Green deck (switched out Sorla for Lich), but there's not much point doing that too much with 2.0 on the actual horizon.

We'll revert back to the original after the update 😜

Pixieking · Mar 21, 2020

shira said:
We'll revert back to the original after the update 😜

Well... Balls.:D

Twig · Mar 21, 2020

you can't win against shira, he's a monster and he has no conscience

LightBang · Mar 21, 2020

Twig said:
What you mean by this.

I don't like the genre at all, but it's only gotten more interesting to me. Mostly because of the single-player stuff, granted, but I really like the concept of "an underlord".

Single player content in a competitive game like this is secondary for me. It's good but it doesn't influence how I play the game all that much.

The underlord concept at this point is an extra unit and nothing more. They settled after the confusing mess they were when first introduced.
My main concern is, I had a lot more fun playing it before and it's not about being "tired" of it. The constant changes to gameplay impoverish the experience to me.

Artifact besides the long games and arrows RNG, is an amazing card game. I don't want them to touch the core gameplay much, they must tackle everything around first and foremost.

Twig · Mar 21, 2020

Can the auto chess genre really be called a competitive game when it's entirely RNG??

jon bones · Mar 21, 2020

auto chess is barely a game at all

TheYanger · Mar 21, 2020

Twig said:
Can the auto chess genre really be called a competitive game when it's entirely RNG??

It's not RNG. That's like saying a card game draft is rng. Ther eis RNG involved, like with almost anything, but it is absolutely a skill you can hone.

Twig · Mar 21, 2020

jon bones said:
auto chess is barely a game at all

Basically how I feel and why the single player stuff intrigues me so much. I think putting these mechanics into a deterministic puzzle context opens it up a LOT. I also believe that if they fully embraced that, even if it meant going entirely into a spinoff game, they could make it more interactive in really compelling ways.

I admit I'm also bitter because I LOVE everything they're doing with the setting of Whitespire within the world of Dota, but... the game is so boring to me that I just... can't enjoy the vast majority of my time with it.

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