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Assassin's Creed Ragnarok New 4chan Leak
- Thread starter Kalasai
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Laughing at people for missing something they used to enjoy and has mostly changed seems a little prickish. YOU may have thought it was dull. But there is a fanbase who liked the slower paced, stealth first aspect of the original games.
And im not saying Origins or Odyssey are bad. I think theyre fine games. But some of us miss proper stealth centric games.
When done well it isn't that bad mechanic.
Not every game with gear durability is BOTW trash.
Some games do it well. I feel like Diablo does it fine. You die a bunch or spend a huge amount of time fighting its damaged but can be repaired. If it's like that then I'm totally fine with it.
Christ, BOTW's Weapons durability isn't even that bad. The game literally throws weapons at you so often that it isn't even an issue.
If done like Diablo, I have no issue with it. If I die, I have no issue with the game penalizing the durability of my gear.
But losing durability by just using the weapons in the manner they're intended (a la BotW) is punitive and annoying and a great way to suck the fun out of your game.
Yeah, I thought it was a pretty interesting way of doing things personally.
I agree. I mean even a little durability loss is ok. But in BOTW I didn't even use my best weapons because well maybe one day I'll need them but never did use them because it was like "well is this really worth it?!"
In my eyes that is issue with the design. Game burns through your gear with plasma cutter in order to force you to use drops it's shoving down your throat with two hands.
None of the gear is special when it's all just part off even mass you burn through in few strikes.
If you like that design of game drowning you in throwaway gear constantly because how durability works it's fine, I think it's bad design.
Jeez the amount of over the top exaggerated hate I'm seeing in here for BOTW's weapon durability is pretty ridiculous imo.
People acting like it crushed their soul to have to manage weapons or switch and experiment between different ones.
I never ran into a problem where I felt the game was breaking all my weapons immediately upon impact lol I can list so many moments where I felt the durability system actually made my experience more meaningful as it rewarded my exploration.
I used the ones I wanted when I needed them and had a great time, I do think the system could've been tweaked a bit for higher difficulties or could've given us even more unique types of weapons to play around with but overall BOTW did it fine and it wasn't the end of the world.
Of course, BOTW's take isn't the final word on this though so I hope ubi implements their own version well in AC!
People acting like it crushed their soul to have to manage weapons or switch and experiment between different ones.
I never ran into a problem where I felt the game was breaking all my weapons immediately upon impact lol I can list so many moments where I felt the durability system actually made my experience more meaningful as it rewarded my exploration.
I used the ones I wanted when I needed them and had a great time, I do think the system could've been tweaked a bit for higher difficulties or could've given us even more unique types of weapons to play around with but overall BOTW did it fine and it wasn't the end of the world.
Of course, BOTW's take isn't the final word on this though so I hope ubi implements their own version well in AC!
Only time I ever liked it was the Dead Rising series. Weapons last just long enough for you to get all your enjoyment out of them and then you can switch to the hundred bazillion other viable weapons around you. It's unlike these RPGs where if your weapon breaks you'll likely have to use a crappy weapon that does way less damage than your usual. And to prevent that horrid future you have to do your hourly chore of repairing your crap.
Weapon durability is just something I tolerate in BOTW. Sure, you never really run out and it's still pretty easy, but I still have to constantly pause the fight to fumble through the weapon slot quick menu, because Link is too much of a dumb ass to auto equip the next weapon slot over. Not much of an issue when slapping around Lizalfos but irksome when dealing with a damage sponge enemy.
The durability in and of itself is fine, but it really needs tweaking in the sequel along with the weapon loot system.
In this game, it won't be a dealbreaker but at least it will be probably better due to the existence of a massive inventory pool and a storage locker which means no abandoned loot. I also have faith if durability happens, there will be a way to repair it. Because unlike BOTW, Odyssey gear was loaded with helpful stats that could be a crime to sacrifice at times.
Also, Odyssey had the secondary weapon system, so if one does break, you can just whip out the secondary with ease.
The durability in and of itself is fine, but it really needs tweaking in the sequel along with the weapon loot system.
In this game, it won't be a dealbreaker but at least it will be probably better due to the existence of a massive inventory pool and a storage locker which means no abandoned loot. I also have faith if durability happens, there will be a way to repair it. Because unlike BOTW, Odyssey gear was loaded with helpful stats that could be a crime to sacrifice at times.
Also, Odyssey had the secondary weapon system, so if one does break, you can just whip out the secondary with ease.
This sounds better than Odyssey, the return of social stealth, one-hit kills, village control can be good for passive income gain, like the shops in AC2.
Weapon durability is a downer tho.
Tentatively excited.
Weapon durability is a downer tho.
Tentatively excited.
This leak is making AC:Ragnarok sound really appealing. I got burned out on AC:Odyssey but these changes are making it sound some real improvements. If the store is halfway decent I may manage to suck me in one more time. Plus I have such fond memories of AC:Black Flag as my first PS4 title so I could get it for that reason alone.
Weapon durability and bigger than Odyssey's world just make my head hurt. Maybe durability can be turned off as part of changing difficulty to Easy or at the expense of less XP or harder enemies, etc.
That being said, naval combat taking a backseat with river exploration being a thing now sounds wonderful!
That being said, naval combat taking a backseat with river exploration being a thing now sounds wonderful!
This doesn't even look like AC anymore, can't they just acknowledge how much it changed and spin it as a new franchise? Kinda like how AC was born (based on Prince of Persia) lol
I get that, but it's a fact that AC was in a sales slump from releasing the same game over and over. The quality was suffering everything.
Things have to change sometimes, and if they hadn't we probably wouldn't get ANY AC these days.
I'm not trying to be a prick, I'm simply saying it seems ridiculous and selfish to wish the series had run itself into the ground so that you could play a game that clearly had lost its consumer appeal.
I completely forgot that simplified city/shop management used to be a feature in these games
AC is seriously one of the weirdest fucking game series (in a good way)
Weapon durability is a huge bummer unless it's like The Witcher 3 and it's super easy to repair. It still sucks though. I'd be down for the game as a PS5 launch title, if it's like Odyssey I'll be playing it until other big games come out. I'm still playing it and have a lot to go before the end.
It didn't lose consumer appeal. Ubisoft failed to capitalize on the consumer appeal of BF by gating its sequel to the last gen and giving it a truncated budget while mandating a yearly release schedule when Unity clearly wasn't ready for release which pushed consumers away.
3 and Black Flag were massive successes, if they didn't force Unity out before it was ready and didn't gimp Rogue they probably wouldn't of had the slump they did with Unity and Syndicate.
Sounds amazing if true. Weapon durability is kinda shit, but it depends on how it's implemented. Witcher 3 had durability as well IIRC and it was kinda okay.
Loved the last two AC games and was excited about the viking setting, but this does not sound great.
Origins and Odyssey brought me back to the franchise after many years so im looking for it.
But how can anyone after Breath of the Wild think that weapon durability is a good idea. If implement too drastic that would be pretty shitty.
But how can anyone after Breath of the Wild think that weapon durability is a good idea. If implement too drastic that would be pretty shitty.
Origins was the first game I thoroughly enjoyed since AC2. Odyssey really burned me out on that kind of game, though. Hope this game has more to offer than 90% of the map being bandit or soldier camps with the objectives of killing the leader and looting a chest.
Honestly not big on the raids (did love co-op in Unity though) or the weapon durability. The rest of it sounds fine to me! Especially reworked stealth and the one hit kill hidden blade.
Personally I didn't like BOTWs implementation of durability. It didn't mesh with my preferred play style. I like to be overpowered and BOTWs system is designed largely to not allow that.
In principle I feel like weapon degradation just works as ammunition in games that don't use guns. So it's as fun as any game that has ammo and it's all about balance.
From the sound of it weapons won't break/will be repairable which solves some of my issues with BotW but will rather lose effectiveness over time therefore forcing you to swap weapons when you spend a long amount of time in between towns.
Not sure if it will be fun or not since part of it sounds like they made Destiny with BOTWs loot system but we'll see
It 100% crushed my enjoyment of the game. I didn't even beat it because after about 30 hours of it, I just got tired of finding a decent weapon (not a great one mind you, a decent one) being able to use it for a few fights and then boom, it was gone and it was back to crap weapons. I mean this without a single bit of hyperbole , weapon durability in BOTW Killed that game for me. It is the sole reason I never finished and will never finish.
I have no idea what you did. Around the middle of the game I was constantly swamped in decent to very good weapons.
My man. AC has potential to become something really good, but that's the exact issue.