Astros still won.
Pretty much. Problem too is that stripping a team of a title would no longer just be a stain on that team but on the entire league because it would be an admission that the sport was compromised. No chance a league would want to take that leap.
So then he should have gotten a two year ban then
I almost assure that from the league's point of view, the integrity of the sport remains intact, despite what their investigation uncovered. If they were to strip a team of a World Series title (and that whole season becomes a wash, basically) then that position becomes a lot harder to defend and no league wants to be in that position.This is the most backward ass logic I've ever heard. They've already admitted that it was compromised or they wouldn't have fined or suspended anyone.
If they strip the title, then people will think MLB is taking the problem seriously. If they don't strip the title...THEN I'm worried about the entire sport being compromised moving forward because they obviously don't care.
Stripping the title is obviously the correct call.
Deflategate was in 2015/2016 iirc. Their punishment was definitely in the 2016-2017 season and was just loss of top pick for that one season, and then a paltry $1 mil fine. It was a nothing punishment.
there are like 3 franchises in the entire sport that wouldn't trade this for a World Series pennant.goodbye career
league sending a message
1st and 2nd round picks for the next two years now revoked......thats fucking HUGE
It is. I'm embarrassed as hell. 🤦♂️
Take a look at this:
Basically they're using camera feeds to read their opponent's signs and they know what pitches they're going to throw.
there are like 3 franchises in the entire sport that wouldn't trade this for a World Series pennant.
Lifetime ban? Wow!Cora will, Beltran will not it seems. Players at the time are not being punished which is why Beltran is in the clear. Cora is gonna get a minimum of 2 years with a lifetime ban not out of the question.
I almost assure that from the league's point of view, the integrity of the sport remains intact, despite what their investigation uncovered. If they were to strip a team of a World Series title (and that whole season becomes a wash, basically) then that position becomes a lot harder to defend and no league wants to be in that position.
not the same but i think injuring players on purpose is worse. you could ruin somebodies career and with how shitty the contracts are for many players they could lose a ton of money if they are cut.So they weren't cheating and it's not the same as the Astros situation.
Not huge enough.goodbye career
league sending a message
1st and 2nd round picks for the next two years now revoked......thats fucking HUGE
Listening to it now, owner gets to fire them and keep the win. Fuck him like he didn't know.
Pretty much. Problem too is that stripping a team of a title would no longer just be a stain on that team but on the entire league because it would be an admission that the sport was compromised. No chance a league would want to take that leap.
There was already a season with no title winner in relatively recent memory (1994). It wasn't the end of the world then and it wouldn't be the end of the world now. They do not deserve to be rewarded for cheating. And they have been.I almost assure that from the league's point of view, the integrity of the sport remains intact, despite what their investigation uncovered. If they were to strip a team of a World Series title (and that whole season becomes a wash, basically) then that position becomes a lot harder to defend and no league wants to be in that position.
It was a nothing offense.Deflategate was in 2015/2016 iirc. Their punishment was definitely in the 2016-2017 season and was just loss of top pick for that one season, and then a paltry $1 mil fine. It was a nothing punishment.
Averaged a World Series every other year with us. Truly incredible.
Not in baseball it aint. Astros got away with cheating their way to a title with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.goodbye career
league sending a message
1st and 2nd round picks for the next two years now revoked......thats fucking HUGE
Take a look at this:
Basically they're using camera feeds to read their opponent's signs and they know what pitches they're going to throw.
How the fuck do you not punish the players?Although the Astros' players did not attempt to hide what they were doing from Hinch or other Astros employees, they were concerned about getting caught by players from other teams. Several players told my investigators that there was a sense of "panic" in the Astros' dugout after White Sox pitcher Danny Farquhar appeared to notice the trash can bangs. Before the game ended, a group of Astros players removed the monitor from the wall in the tunnel and hid it in an office. For the Postseason, a portable monitor was set up on a table to replace the monitor that had been affixed to the wall near the dugout.