They were never going to strip away a title. This is professional sports not the NCAA. This is about as hard as you can come down on a franchise
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Astros GM suspended for one year after it was found that team cheated using technology to win World Series in 2017. (UPDATE: GM and manager fired)
- Thread starter Uzumaki Goku
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Not even mad that they (and the Red Sox in 2018) would keep the title. Just officially enter an asterisk into the record for this.
What I'm actually most pissed about is Judge getting robbed for MVP in 2017. Given what we know now, he should have won over Altuve.
What I'm actually most pissed about is Judge getting robbed for MVP in 2017. Given what we know now, he should have won over Altuve.
Because they're represented by the most powerful union in the country. That's about it, really
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I still have to read the full report, but the indication so far is they did not do this during the World Series.
I'm like 99% sure he will be fired now since the astros acted first.
I don't really think it should be added because the firings weren't part of the team's punishment.
They made it to the World Series by cheating though.
I think it's possible, that's all. I have no inside info just a feeling. If Hinch got a year for failing to notify mlb about the cheating while not participating then the guy who basically created the system and then took it with him to another team that also got caught cheating is going to be punished much more severely.
I suspect there's something in their CBA that protects the players. They've got a very strong union.
Besides, every player on the team had to know. Suspending every player would be difficult. The organization has to field a team.
So they throw a couple of management under the bus and move on. Seems like the Astros are getting away with it with only minimal damage.
Besides, every player on the team had to know. Suspending every player would be difficult. The organization has to field a team.
So they throw a couple of management under the bus and move on. Seems like the Astros are getting away with it with only minimal damage.
in 2017, they did it "throughout the postseason," too. the report is clear on that.
I think that actually plays into a lot of this. Baseball is all about stats. You need more than an asterisk next to the WS win.
You need an asterisk next to the stats of every single hitter on that team
You need an asterisk on every single award/all star nom they got
If we're going to penalize players when we consider them for the HOF for taking performance enhancing drugs to enhance their stats, then why not take that into careful consideration when you look at these guys, who basically padded their stats by cheating.
Agreed. Might not get a lifetime ban but you can certainly make the argument he deserves just that.
Weak shit punishment, Could've at least made it clear the title was won via cheating. Otherwise it was like they didn't even get punished.
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And I don't think you are alone in that sentiment either. The league may very well be underestimating what ramifications this scandal will have to their sport, but I am still not surprised that they didn't want to take the unprecedented step of stripping the Astros of their title.
That was caused by a work stoppage in which the players went on strike and the World Series was never ever played. That is completely different than the league stripping a title from a team.
They should wait, if they fire him right now before anything is officially out then they still owe him the rest of his contract. If MLB sanctions him then they have an out from the contract.
Man, the Astros seemed like a such a likeable team (players), too. I was happy they won the title in 2018. They seemed so happy go lucky. And then this...ugh.
It remains weak as piss. These guys get a year off and they'll have jobs in the near future. In fact, since the Astros have fired them, it's even weaker on the Astros now. They can just hire permanent replacements rather than having to use interim guys.
So we know they're guilty, however because I cannot determine the degree of guilt, they all get off scot free.
They have to serve their suspensions when they're hired. It could be a lifetime ban for a guy like hinch who youd use a coaching spot on.
Lol, I dig the art but the text also needs to be changed to Asterisks.
They can call up all their minor leaguers, don't cheat, it's not hard
Why would they want to send a message where you can cheat and only get a slap on the wrist. Nuke the trophy and everything.
Well, they had the betting scandals, and then the steroid era where everyone and their mother knew players were juicing and then everyone acted shocked when it was uncovered.
Houston Rockets gonna blow a 3-0 lead to the Memphis Grizzlies or somethin
Cursed city
Firing them is the easiest way for ownership to get away with it.
How do they think they'll get away with shit like this in a sport where players come and go so freely? Did they just assume the honor system would stop a player from going to a competitor and not tell the new team what the old team is doing to gain an advantage?
More like the shame system.
Hey new team, I know you're paying me top dollar for my great stats last year, but we were really cheating, so sorry about that!
They may, but if MLB indicates is even for a half season, he is done.
Ok after reading this, fuck them. For some reason i thought it was just a couple of games.
There's no way this happens. American pro sports leagues have never stripped a title, doing so is a permanent black mark in leagues that are obsessed with legacy.
interim guys who are no where near the GM and manager that Lunhow and Hinch are.
